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Ceesay Fatou <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:17:15 -0000
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Dear brother Darboe,
                    Please revisit both my writings and yours,and donīt
quickly press the keyboard, that will help.Remember, it is you who attempted
to challenge whatI wrote,and on the process accusing people whom you dare
not to identify.If you want to throw your towel, you can very well do so but
please with honesty.Oh, but I forgot,Mr.minister sarjo jallow was your
comrade who is very skilful in his games, probably he trained you
also.Brother Darboe, who told you that you should not visit your people in
the Gambia, all what am sayings is that jallow patronised you and you have
been "ride on"with his state allocated transport,denied it if it is not
true.There are lot of your former moja-comrade who have been visiting Gambia
from Europe & america but they took distant from minister sarjo jallow hence
they are no opportunist.
I am sorry but I have to be frank with you that I am very surprised that you
are very afraid to even identify the people you accused of "misusing your
OGIS īs half a million" much more to sustain those accusations.Probably your
intention was to defend sarjo but you dare not to spell it out.I think
people should be brave enough to come out clearly ,specially when they
freely accused others.I came out with my opinion on the possibility of sarjo
jallow using false name "kebba jobe" ,and on the process I characterise
him.But you just jumped in and tried to contrast me with the claims of
having fact,yet you cannot refute nor sustain your accusations.
Brother,for me, it is not a palaver-palaver ,and hence I cannot get you to
talk nor engaging you in any meaningful exchange,I have to give up and let
you continue hide what you want to hide.Anyway,thank you for exposing your
self to this list what a type of person you are when you dare not to reveal
what you called the "facts",nor dare to come out clearly about your position
on Sarjo Jallowīs roles in the Gambian organization(sweden),Moja and this
present government of the Gambia(Children killers.
By the way, are you the same Darboe I was told have always defend
B.B.Darboe(former finance minister of both Jawara & Jammeh`s government)?If
yes ,how is that compatible with being a comrade to Sarjo Jallow?
Oh,of course I throw my towel,I should not have ask these questions.
I give up,but thank you anyway. Good day,sir
Fc


>From: Darboe <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:54:16 +0200
>
>Thank you Sister CF for all that you wrote ,but I stick to my last posting
>that I want to prove my point if the person who passed the information to
>you about OGIS did come forward and prove me wrong .Sister may make myself
>very clear to you I am accountable for myself so what Sarjo does as SoS he
>and not me will be accountable for that even there comes  a change of
>Government million times .I have a right like all Gambians to visit my
>relatives even if only Moja-G members are SoS .I mention nowhere about
>Sarjo's official capacity and what he did right or wrong .Secondly Sarjo
>was
>a comrade not my friend .I am not  a person who calls everyone I know my
>friend .Lastly the one who told you about my last year Holidays should have
>told you where I stayed .Call and say  whatever you what to Sarjo that is
>your problem with him and not mine because I'm M.A.Darboe full stop .
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ceesay Fatou <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 1:41 PM
>Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
>
>
> > Brother Darboe,
> >                It is ok to give up hence one cannot defend the
> > undefensible.I never call for a debate,it is only you who took it upon
> > yourself to defend Mr. minister sarjo jallow or what you call "who
>destroyed
> > OGIS" , and yet you  cannot refute what i wrote.
> > To make myself clear, I claimed that jallow took a leading role in the
> > destruction of the Gambian Organization.You disagreed with that claim if
>I
> > understand you correctly,but you never prove me wrong despite all you
>claim
> > of having facts.All you did was pointing an accusing finger to some
>people
> > who you dare not even to identify.You end up by saying "iīm not
>interested
> > to debate with you about matters which you donīt have facts...".Who ask
>you
> > to debate,is it not you who claim to have facts?My good brother ,what
>are
> > you talking,which lamin are you talking about?Have I mention such name?I
> > said that the jallow guy was organising on the ethnic basis.Where have I
> > mention that he organize on fulla ethnic bases.I am a Gambian enough to
>know
> > that Danial Jatta and Alagi Jammeh are more likely to be a Jolla
>speaking
> > people than a fulla.You said that you are not defending minister
> > jallow-find.I am yet very surprise that it is only you who is concern
>and
> > responded.Is it because that you are the only honest one in the list
>from
> > sweden who knows Mr. jallow and want to clear his (jallow) name?Or is it
> > that you are trying to compensating Mr.jallow for patronizing you during
> > your holidays in the Gambia.It is easy to said I will not be bought, but
>the
> > recent by elections in badibou and kain is a great lesson to be
>learnd.If
> > poor peasants who are by large the worst victims of jammehīs madness can
>be
> > bought,who cannot without the strong political and moral conscience.And
>I
> > doubt a pal who is allowed to be "ride on"at the state expensive is
> > exceptional.
> > Brother Darboe,with all the due respect,I am starting to believe that
>your
> > irritation on this issue is far beyond that of the Gambia
> > organization.So,what is the problem ,brother?If one cannot vomit the
> > truth,then one should keep quite when others are talking, isnīt Brother?
> > There is no doubt in my mind that your friend Sarjo Jallow contributed a
>lot
> > to  destroyed both the Gambian organization in sweden,moja-g sweden and
>the
> > jailing of  Modou Dumo Saho.Prove me wrong if you can.Your friend Sarjo
> > Jalow is the spokesman of this criminal government which is guilty of
> > gunning down the unarm children.Who in his right senses will defend such
> > people if one is not highhanded opportunist or criminal like them.If you
>are
> > not defend jallow,what have you to talk on this issue?If you want to
>talk
> > about your"OGIS",please be my guest but dontīt try to denie or defend
> > Jallowīs treacherous character.Jallow and all those who are in Jammehīs
> > criminal cabinet are all criminals and history will not forgive them as
>well
> > as those who defend them.Brother,be watchful before you put yourself in
>the
> > lionīs den.
> >   FC
> >
> >
> > >From: Darboe <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:49:44 +0200
> > >
> > >Thank you  sister CF .I want to make myself clear to you that I'm not
> > >interested to debate with you about matters which you don't have  facts
>to
> > >back up hence you  stated that you are far away from Stockholm .My
>point
>of
> > >disagreement  is  " it was not Sarjo who destroyed The OGIS ".For your
> > >information , both Alhagie and Lamin are not Fulas .Secondly the one
>who
> > >told you that I am a pious Muslim haven't said it all he should have
> > >informed you that Darboe can't be bought .So Sister I still maintain my
> > >point that I not interested in defending Sarjo but who destroyed The
>OGIS
> > >.So being the case ,I want to debate with Gambians who were/are members
>of
> > >OGIS so that the real facts will come out .I say thank you for  your
> > >efforts.
> > >
> > >
> > >Darboe
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Ceesay Fatou <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 4:45 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > >
> > >
> > > > Brother Darboe,
> > > > Thank you.If am not missing the point,we aren'tīt in total
> > >disagreement,so
> > > > let move to the points we canīt see eye to eye.
> > > >
> > > > You wrote."Ceesay Fatou , I can't agree to all that you wrote about
> > >Sarjo
> > > > .How could
> > > > Sarjo destroyed The Gambian Organisation and now try to reorganise
>it
> > > > through a brief visit ?  Can you source tell how many Fulas are in
> > >Stockholm
> > > > compared to Mandingos and Wallows ? Servo was among the few who
> > >generated
> > > > the resources of OGIS . The real people who destroyed that
>Organisation
> > >were
> > > > the ones who misused over Half A Million Swedish Crowns we handed
>over
> > >to
> > > > them and are now pointing the finger to Sarjo .If they deny what I
>write
> > >,
> > >I
> > > > will defend it with facts because we know each other well .Please be
> > > > reassured that I am in no way defending Sarjo but facts about OGIS."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How comes,and why should I tell you how many fullas,mandingoes and
> > >wollofs
> > > > living in stockholm?Isnīt better for you to stated what you know
>hence
> > >you
> > > > have the facts?After all, isnīt better to ask me to explain what I
>means
> > > > when I wrote that minister jallow is trying to organize the Gambians
>to
> > >aprc
> > > > on the ethnic bases?If that was the motive behind your question.I
> > >maintain
> > > > the position that jallow was organizing on ethnic bases.jallow was
> > >trying
> > >to
> > > > organize people like Daniel Jatta,Alagi Jammeh etc ,and that is an
>open
> > > > secret that these character are renounced "ethnic nationalist".Hence
>you
> > > > have the facts was Mr..jallow,isnīt true that Jallow was at Gambian
> > > > Organization meeting while in stockholm?What was he saying there and
>his
> > > > agendas?What is his relationship with the present committee
>especially
> > >the
> > > > sec.gen and the chairman?My good brother,it is good that you have
>the
> > >facts
> > > > ,i can learn from you.May i ask,what prompt you to handed over half
>a
> > > > million to such people?Where were you(bread producers)when they were
> > > > misusing the half a million?Who is more irresponsible,the one who
>freely
> > > > allowed his / her labour to be misused and the one who misused
>it?Arenīt
> > >you
> > > > not also making the same finger pointing which you raised to me
> > >.Brother,
> > >I
> > > > will limited myself to your own points and questions until  your
>next.
> > > > Brother Darboe,of course you know each other there, but I will even
>go
> > > > further to add that Gambia is too small and we know each other.And
> > >Gambia
> > >is
> > > > all we all have,so we must defend her despite what.
> > > > With the treacherous and patronizing skills of minister jallow,only
>a
> > >strong
> > > > moral and political consciousness will save one from not to be
>carriage
> > > > with.Jallow is in the habit of standby his state allocated car for
>his
> > >pals
> > > > from sweden who visited the Gambia.Hence you arenīt here to defend
> > >minister
> > > > jallow,I am with a believe that he have not managed silent you by
> > >patronized
> > > > you during your visit to the Gambia last year.I am told that you are
> > >good
> > > > and decent muslim who is after the truth, or is that not
> > >correct-brother?
> > > > FC
> > > > Whoever defend the mouthpiece of the children killer must be guilty
>of
>a
> > > > crime
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Darboe <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > > > >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:20:38 +0200
> > > > >
> > > > >Ceesay Fatou , I can't agree to all that you wrote about Sarjo .How
> > >could
> > > > >Sarjo destroyed The Gambian Organisation and now try to reorganise
>it
> > > > >through a brief visit ?  Can you source tell how many Fulas are in
> > > > >Stockholm
> > > > >compared to Mandingos and Wallows ? Servo was among the few who
> > >generated
> > > > >the resources of OGIS . The real people who destroyed that
>Organisation
> > > > >were
> > > > >the ones who misused over Half A Million Swedish Crowns we handed
>over
> > >to
> > > > >them and are now pointing the finger to Sarjo .If they deny what I
> > >write
> > >,
> > > > >I
> > > > >will defend it with facts because we know each other well .Please
>be
> > > > >reassured that I am in no way defending Sarjo but facts about OGIS.
> > > > >
> > > > >Darboe
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: Ceesay Fatou <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 5:32 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > I am not very sure if Mr.Kebba Jobe is Mr.minister sarjo m
>jallow
>or
> > >not
> > > > >but
> > > > > > the fact is that Mr.minister jallow was(probably still)stockholm
> > >Sweden
> > > > >when
> > > > > > Mr.jobe was surfacing in the g-l. Mr.minister was in stockholm
>with
> > >the
> > > > >aims
> > > > > > to reorganise the Gambian Organisation on his party platform,and
> > > > >organise
> > > > > > the Gambians to the aprc on ethnic bases.Mr jallow is very
> > >treacherous
> > > > >and
> > > > >a
> > > > > > big manipulator,who have played a leading role to destroyed the
> > >Gambian
> > > > > > Organisation in sweden.Manipulate and destroyed the moja-g
>breach
>in
> > > > >sweden,
> > > > > > mixed-up moja pals and comrades to a level of enimity,helped to
>put
> > >his
> > > > > > former comrade Dum Saho in the prison walls,dumped his old
>comrade
> > > > >ousman
> > > > > > manjang(immediately after the ministerial appointment) whose
>asshole
> > >he
> > > > >is
> > > > > > now planing to put behind the bars(prison).This jallow guy is
>very
> > > > >sadist
> > > > > > and dangerous man who will do everything to get to his goals.
> > > > > > I have contacted lot of people who knows minister jallow
>inperson
> > >and
> > > > >they
> > > > > > all agreed that he is a very treacherous guy and he might be
>behind
> > > > >mr.jobe
> > > > > > but he is certainly not the writer because it has never been his
> > >habit
> > > > >to
> > > > > > write articles.It is widely believed that mr. jallow is very
>good
>in
> > > > > > hiding,and he will do everything to aviod the limelight alone.
> > > > > > Who knows,mr.jobe can be a woman with mr.jallowīs
>manipulation?But
> > > > >believe
> > > > > > me ,am doing a good homework on mr. minister jallow.
> > > > > > Be it mr. jallow or not, history is on the side of the Gambian
> > >people
> > > > >versus
> > > > > > jammeh(the children killer)&co.
> > > > > > FC
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: Ebrima Ceesay <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > > > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > >Subject: Re: Attn: Minister Sarjo Jallow or "Kebba Jobe"
> > > > > > >Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 23:47:23 -0000
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Jabou Joh, Ebou Colley, Ansumana Kujabi, Lameen Barrow,
>M.L.Conteh
> > >et
> > > > >al.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >So many thanks to each and every one of you for your kind words
>of
> > > > >"welcome
> > > > > > >back home again!!".
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Jabou:  I note your warning comments about the difficulties of
> > >debating
> > > > > > >with
> > > > > > >members of the pro-Jammeh lobby.  Thank you for your words of
> > >wisdom,
> > > > >and
> > > > > > >be
> > > > > > >assured that I know what to expect! Did you get my messages on
>your
> > > > >anwswer
> > > > > > >phone last week?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >M.L. Conteh:  I am glad to be back on the L.  Some (not all !)
> > >Gambians
> > > > > > >have
> > > > > > >a tendency to narrow-mindedness and to wild speculation !!  God
> > >knows
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >reason why I have been silent on the List recently, and this is
> > >exactly
> > > > >as
> > > > > > >I
> > > > > > >explained in my previous posting. I hope to be able to visit
>East
> > >Coast
> > > > > > >America before the end of the year, and shall look forward to
> > >meeting
> > > > >up
> > > > > > >with you and other List members, especially my friend and good
> > >brother,
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >great Kebba Dampha.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >In fact, I should be very keen to share my research findings
> > >vis-ā-vis
> > > > >The
> > > > > > >Gambia, with interested Gambian groups in the USA.  As for my
> > > > >contribution
> > > > > > >to the Opposition Fund, I shall see how I can send something to
>Joe
> > > > >Sambou
> > > > > > >as soon as possible.  I shall also talk to Brother Alpha
>Robinson
> > >who
> > > > >was
> > > > > > >coordinating the European Fund for the April 10/11th victims,
>and
> > >see
> > > > > > >whether it would be easier to contribute through him or through
> > >Sister
> > > > >Ndey
> > > > > > >Jobarteh in London.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >By the way, I have noticed, reading through my mails,  that
>some
> > >List
> > > > > > >members are interested in reading satire, and as a result, as
>from
> > > > > > >tomorrow,
> > > > > > >I have decided to spread my wings and indulge in this literary
> > >sport
> > > > >myself
> > > > > > >!! With all the tensions and stresses of Gambian political
>issues
> > >at
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >moment, I feel the need to express myself in a more jocular way
> > >from
> > > > >time
> > > > > > >to
> > > > > > >time !!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Actually, writing satire is something I did once in a while in
>the
> > > > >past,
> > > > > > >but
> > > > > > >from now on I shall also endeavour to contribute satirical
>postings
> > >on
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >L, from time to time.  Satire is an art-form which mirrors
>reality
> > >from
> > > > >the
> > > > > > >point of view of the writer, and I hope that my humble efforts
>will
> > >be
> > > > > > >appreciated by some List members.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ebrima Ceesay,
> > > > > > >Birmingham, UK.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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