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Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:32:24 -0500
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Ebrima:
Good questions! "Ebou Colley" needs to clarify the issues you raised.

On another note, I have tried to send you email privately, but it gets
returned.  Please send me your home address privately. Thanks.

Abdoulaye

ebrima ceesay wrote:
>
> Buharry,
>
> I've read the comments/sentiments expressed in your piece, which is
> reproduced further below, and I must say that I found them quite
> instructive. Thanks for the posting for it was very useful and informatory.
>
> I am also not doubting the hard facts contained in "Ebou Colley's" piece at
> all, but I, for one, am also uncomfortable with the tribal aspect of his
> useful posting.
>
> Anyway, if Gambians feel that tribalism is a legitimate problem/concern that
> ought be addressed headlong, then I am ready to open my ears and listen.
>
> Gambia-L, I must, however, say that detecting the literary hand and mind of
> a MR X (his real name is withheld by me) in "Ebou Colley's" posting, I had
> to do some serious checks - at the weekend - on the posting (not just on the
> IP number, but using other methods as well).
>
> And, consequently, I came to the conclusion that the person I suspected to
> have written the piece must have authored it.
>
> Having come to that conclusion, I am now taking VERY SERIOUSLY, the
> information contained in "Ebou Colley's" piece, except that like Buharry
> Gassama, my former classmate, I am also a little bit disturbed by the tribal
> aspect of this "wonderful" posting, to borrow words from Ous Bojang.
>
> Having said that, I am now publicly challenging you ("Ebou Colley") to use
> your REAL name on Gambia L, so that people WILL take what you have got to
> say/write about Jammeh and his army, very seriously, because you definitely
> were an INSIDER.
>
> "Ebou Colley", I believe you have a lot to contribute to the Gambian debate,
> but, in my honest view, it would help the debate if you use your genuine
> name so that, as I stated earlier, people would take you seriously.
>
> By the way, I also have some pertinent questions for you, relating to your
> fall out with the Jammeh regime, and would be very grateful if you could
> give me the real reasons behind your departure from this regime.
>
> I have also written a chapter on how the Jammeh coup was actually planned,
> but there is still a confusion in terms of who actually authored the first
> broadcast of the coup, on Radio One FM, owned by George Christenson.
>
> Did you have a hand in it, or, in other word, did you write the speech?
> Also, did you have any thing to do with planning of the coup? Is it true
> that you hid the original speech that Jammeh was supposed to use over Radio
> Gambia, on the first day of the coup, to announce the take over?
>
> Furthermore, on the second day of the coup, I was at State House, and
> noticed that Jammeh and Co were consulting you a lot, but a few days later,
> you were arrested and detained at the Mile two prisons?
>
> Would you tell Gambia L what, in reality, led to your dismissal and
> subsequent detention? Who actually ordered for your arrest? Was it to do
> with Sabally, or Jammeh himself?
>
> Furthermore, I have seen two lists containing ten names of those who
> actually planned the coup (not those who executed the coup), and I must say
> that in both lists, your name had featured. My question then is: Were you
> one of the architects of the coup?
>
> You are also accused of being the one who wrote Jammeh's first speech on
> policy, broadcast on Radio Gambia, on the third day of the coup; is this
> true? I interviewed former US ambassador to the Gambia Andrew Winter and his
> Political and Visa Officer at the time, James Knight, on whether or not the
> USA had a hand in the coup and they made their position on the take over
> very clear to me.
>
> But from your perspective, could I ask you, to the best of your knowledge,
> whether or not the USA had a hand in the Jammeh coup?
>
> Some months before the coup, in my capacity as a journalist, I and some
> international human right lawyers had the privilege to visit the inside of
> both Mile 2 and Jeshwang prisons; and to tell you the truth, we were shocked
> by the appalling conditions of these two prisons at the time.
>
> Could I, therefore, ask you about the conditions of the Mile 2 prison at the
> time you were there? Also, I have done some thorough research on what I'll
> call the marriage of circumstances between Captain Edward Singhatey and Mr
> Jammeh, and I've come to the conclusion that they'll never fall apart,
> because they desperately need each other. Do you buy this?
>
> I could share my observations on the two if you wish. But, as for you, do
> you envisage a fall out between Jammeh and Singhatey?
>
> "Ebou Colley", I presume you wouldn't have much information on the November
> 11, 1994 alleged coup plot, since you were still in jail I believe, but what
> do you really know, as a fact, about the attack by those "rebels" on the
> Farafenni military barracks in 1996?
>
> By the way, was Yankuba Touray one of those who planned the Jammeh coup, or
> was he invited? Anyway, I know at the time of the Jammeh coup, he was based
> in Farafenni.
>
> "Ebou Colley", the reason why I've asked about Yankuba's role is because I
> have got conflicting reports on Yankuba's role in the coup and would
> therefore be very grateful if you could tell me what you know on the issue.
>
> Also, on the first day of the coup, who actually opened the armoury? Did
> Captain Mamat Cham have the keys to the armoury at the time of the coup?
>
> "Ebou Colley", I have so many questions for you, but I am in a hurry, so I
> have to go. But do expect more questions from me.
>
> Finally, I again challenge you to use your real name so as to give
> credibility to what you have got to say on the Gambian debate. I believe
> your voice is quite significant vis-a-vis the Gambian debate and, as such,
> you owe it to Gambians and posterity, to make your contribution to debate ON
> THE RECORD, and not off the record if you know what I mean.
>
> "Ebou Colley", I must apologise unreservedly in advance if you find my
> posting offensive or distasteful.
>
> Ousman Bojang, I read your comments on the topic of democracy and the points
> you made were valuable. Keep it up!
>
> Ebrima Ceesay,
> Birmingham, UK.
>
> >From: MOMODOU BUHARRY GASSAMA <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Another Dubious Coup Plot in The Gambia
> >Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 17:33:01 +0100
> >
> >Hi!
> >     The issue of underlining the tribalist undertones of Ebou Colley's
> >posting has nothing to do with the "keep it safe business". It is neither a
> >run for cover nor an attempt to use "code words" to run away from tribalist
> >realities back home. The issues raised by Ebou if true, given that his
> >information sounds real "insider", are issues that should concern us all.
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