Kabir & Sister Jabou,
 The tension of your debate is too high,and I would urge both of you to put this matter to rest.Everybody has
his / her full right to believe in whatever s/he wants
to believe.Islam does not force anyone to follow the religion against his / her will.
As Quoted in surah 2 ( vers 256 )"There is no compulsion in religion".
The Almighty Allah ( SWT ) will give us our judgements for all our deeds.Munkar
and Nakir must question each and everyone inside your grave.Nobody can fool
The Almighty God with His angels,so we should know that only the truth will prevail.
 Just putting on an  oversize gold trimmed embroided gown and holding your prayer beads does not make you a
good muslim.Let us know that The Almighty God is seeing us,and know everything in our hearts and minds.
Therefore,I would urge both of you to put this debate to rest, and we move on to
other important issues affecting our own back yard.
Regards
Elhajj,

Jabou Joh skrev:

> Amadou Kabir Njie.
>
> I do not think I will take your ramblings point by point because clearly, you
> have lost sight of this discussion, and have now gone off the deep end as
> they say, resorting to name calling and unexplained hostility. However, it is
> also clear that you have wanted to attack me for what you call "wearing my
> religion on my sleeve". I do not hide my faith, but neither do I try to force
> anyone to join me in it. If that has made you cultivated some hostility
> towards me, and this is so apparent from all you have said in this last
> posting,then it is just too bad.
>
> You speak as if you know me personally, when the only place we have ever met
> is this forum. I find it very strange that you direct all these tirades of
> insults at me, but if that is the best  way you can express yourself, then I
> will leave you to it. Perhaps it accords you an outlet to vent.
>
> One thing that is certain is that you do not know me at all, so how would you
> know about my sincerity or lack there of, or call me a hypocrite, or do you
> thnik it will buy you some acceptance and popularity if you call me names?
>
> Kabir, you are full of rhetoric and you are the kind of person who will say
> all the things that you think are in accordance with popular opinion.When
> people are like that, they cease to be real. I am not like that. I state my
> opinion regarding every situation according to  the facts, and I express my
> opinion accordingly.I do not do it because I think it will make me popular.
> You can bet that whatever opinion i expressed about Imam Fatty or anyone
> else, I based my comments on the circumstances of the situation, and in the
> case of religion, on what the teachings are on that particular issue, and
> there are no mad teachings in Islam, only mad people who use religion for
> their own purposes. You are not telling the truth when you imply that I have
> blindly supported Imam Fatty in the past and only now come back to criticize
> him with recent incidents.i do not give blind support because I am not a
> stupid person.
>
> I repeat, despite all your denials, you seem to get bent out of shape anytime
> religion is mentioned, and you seem to look for any excuse to direct your
> venom at religion. You deny making religion the issue, but that is actually
> the basis of your attack on me, especially in this last response you have
> sent, so who are you trying to fool?
> No amount of attacks from the likes of you will ever make me discuss religion
> just behind closed doors, and if that raises your ire, or that of anyone
> else, then it is just too bad.
> Please remember that each of us is entitled to their own opinions and
> beliefs, so expouse yours and leave me to mine. Please take this hostility
> and turn it into something more productive, especially since you seem to
> think that you have all the answers.That would be time better spent than
> directing personal atacks at me just because you have this bizarre idea that
> you can tell me what i should condemn or not condemn.
>
> Jabou Joh
>
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