Elhajj, although the day is still young here in the East Coast of the United
States, I must say that you made my day. Today each time some one tries to
foul my day, I will just go reread your piece and the brilliant rejoinder
Bambalaye sent to his earlier piece on the mediocre running our country.
Essa “school fees” Sey! Elhajj where did you get that one from? Rest assured
that the moron will NOT ‘Jakaar loh’. He might be a mental midget but he
knows how to self-preserve. During the campaign when he thought Yaya was
going to lose, he was markedly different from what you used to see and what
you will be seeing henceforth. The moron faked an illness just to stay away
from the fray in Banjul and the aftermath of a Yaya defeat.

Just like I pinned him down yesterday on the Millennium Airline thing, I
will be following his postings thoroughly and will use his OWN material to
hang him. Just watch. Elhajj, both you and BambaLaye touched on a very
important point; and that is Yaya and his cohorts use a very distorted form
of Islam to prey on gullible Gambians. Part of it is because the mental
midgets do NOT understand Islam. But another aspect is that some so-called
religious leaders in the country have deliberately decided to be the Devil’s
advocate, willingly spread distorted interpretations of Islam. Clearly, both
groups (the mental midgets and the dubious religious leaders) are all very
strong candidates for Hell Fire.

Elhajj, what can be more despicable than saying that God ‘ordained’ that
Yaya be the leader and order the massacre of innocent and defenseless
children? I frankly do NOT know what these people think God is. Do these
people understand the concept of ‘Free Will’ in Islam? Do they understand
why God gave man a conscience and a brain to distinguish between right and
wrong? DO they understand the difference between man and wild animals in the
wilderness? Elhajj, as know, these questions calls for some deep pondering.
The answers to these questions do NOT lie in classrooms in the U.S. or
England or what have you. One can also read the Koran from cover to cover
and also NOT find the answers. Not wishing to ignite a religious debate, I
will keep some of the answers to myself. But I think Elhajj that some time
in the past, I communicated to you in private where lies some of these
answers.

As some can probably tell, I do NOT like talking about religion. But I am
getting increasingly convinced that people have to do something about the
religious decadence in Gambia. Why should we allow mental midgets that do
NOT understand Islam be the ones spreading LIES and saying that it is God’s
word? Some men (who I do NOT know but friends told me spend a lot of time in
bars drinking alcohol) ‘preaching’ people about God and morality in Islam.
Hypocrites like Essa Sey and hateful vermin like ‘Imam’ Fatty (who thinks it
was all right to slaughter innocent Americans) ‘preaching’ people about
Islam. Elhajj, I have now resolved that it is our religious duty to also set
the record straight. We MUST NOT allow these people to LIE about God.

It is absurd to say that God ‘ordained’ the evil that men do. If that was
the case, we will NOT have Heaven and Hell and there will be no Satan. Islam
also does NOT say that citizens have to succumb to every leader and take all
sorts of abuse from them because God ‘ordained’ that they lead. Remember how
Islam started? Islam was a revolution. The status quo was changed. God did
NOT tell the Prophet to just follow the religion of the then king of Mecca.
It is crazy how religious ‘leaders’ in Gambia will tell people to just
succumb to Yaya because God ‘ordained’ that Yaya steal power and continue to
use violence to stay in power and loot our meager resources in order to lead
a flamboyant life-style. I guess all the criminals (prisoners) in the
country should be freed then because God ‘ordained’ that they commit crimes.
This is absurd. God NEVER ordained that Yaya be a criminal that stole power
and continue to enslave our people.

What these religious ‘leaders’ should be preaching to their people are
verses that teach us to stand up against EVIL. No one can deny that it is
EVIL to slaughter innocent and defenseless children. Why these religious
‘leaders’ are NOT standing up against that, they will explain to God one
day. Standing up against EVIL can be as negligible as just speaking up
against EVIL. But no! The ‘leaders’ and the hypocrites in the country are
trying to tell our people that it is God’s fault that some EVIL is going on
in the country. From the bottom of my heart, Elhajj, I feel very sorry for
these people. Because they do NOT know/understand God, they are NOT afraid
of HIM. In His own time, God will show them. Just watch. Anybody that thinks
that God ‘ordains’ the EVIL that men do, does NOT know a darn thing about
Islam.
KB


>From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Yero Mama/The day of reckoning or recognising?
>Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 07:00:10 +0100
>
>Kebba,
>These people think they can come here and fool us on Islam, as they are
>presently fooling the Gambian public. If they are true believers, why have
>they
>killed innocent people? Why are they going round peddling lies against
>people ?
>Why are the stealing the coffers of country ? Why are they still
>intimidating,
>maimimg and still intending to kill more people who don`t support them?
>Believe
>me Kebba, i smelt some coffee in Essa "school fees" Sey`s preachings. They
>should thank God that Yaya Jammeh`s gun has benefited them to call
>themselves
>Ambassadors or whatever. Coming here to preach us in French will never
>frighten
>us, because we have people in this forum who can translate his preachings
>into
>five / six different languages. My message to Essa "school fees" Sey is
>"La connaissance de la religion de L`lslam se compose de trois degrès:
>1. AL-ISLAM, qui signifie la soumission complète à Allah.
>2. AL-IMANE, qui signifie la foi absolute en ALLAH.
>3.AL-IHSANE ( la charitè ou l`amèlioration de soi ). "
>If Essa believes in what he is preaching here, then let us see him on the "
>JAAKAR LOH " face to face confrontation with the devil of Islam.
>
>Elhajj.
>
>
>Dampha Kebba skrev:
>
> > It is just hilarious how all of a sudden the vermin have found God. I
>guess
> > in their deviant minds it was God’s will that our defenseless children
>be
> > slaughtered and it was also God’s will that those hateful terrorists in
>New
> > York murder over 4000 innocent civilians. Oh God help us from such
>TWISTED
> > interpretation of the Koran. God help us from morons and drunkards
>leaving
> > bars and holding the Koran and giving erroneous interpretation of Your
>Holy
> > Book. Amen.
> >
> > Frankly, I thought Gassama and Essa Sey were morons, but I did NOT think
> > that they will go to this extent whereby they will try in broad daylight
>to
> > bamboozle God, The Almighty. You guys think that when you are partaking
>in
> > your despicable deeds disobeying God, The Almighty is sleeping or taking
>a
> > vacation? Did God also ‘ordain’ that Hitler comes and slaughter Jews?
>You
> > people MUST be out of your minds. I am very serious when I say that if
> > nothing else, please reread the Koran and Hadith and try and educate
> > yourself. You are way off.
> >
> > Before I move to Gassama’s irrational rattling about his ‘wishes’ for
>Gambia
> > after the October Election, let me just point out one thing to Essa Sey.
>In
> > his quest to sound intelligent and make a point, the mental midget ended
>up
> > implicating his boss and showing the whole world that Yaya is blatantly
> > breaking our laws by ‘owning’ a plane. Essa Sey just told us that Yaya
>is
> > indeed the owner of Millennium Airlines. After all, the UN Sanctions
> > Committee got the wrong person. When they banned Baabaa Jobe (qua
>Director
> > of Millennium Airlines), they should have banned Yaya. That aside, our
> > Constitution (as if Yaya respects the document) specifically prohibits
>Yaya
> > from involving in ‘business’ other than farming. Now Essa Sey is telling
>us
> > that Yaya is in the ‘business’ of hiring and firing people working for
> > Millennium Airlines. You morons do NOT cease to amaze me.
> >
> > Now to tweedle-dee. Gassama, Hitler won elections in Germany. The man is
> > still a Devil. Stealing elections by intimidating the masses does NOT
>make
> > Yaya a ‘good’ person with few faults (shortcomings) that some of us
>should
> > tolerate. In my book, the vermin forfeited his rights when he ordered
>the
> > massacre of our children. That is what you guys should also try and get
>into
> > your thick skulls. You keep trying to make us ignore the man’s faults.
>We
> > are telling you that those faults are so heinous that we CANNOT tolerate
> > them. I hope you see the point now.
> >
> > You can delude yourself and think that the people that oppose Yaya in
>this
> > forum are in the minority. Not just this forum, but let me inform you
>that
> > the overwhelming majority of Gambians oppose Yaya. The moron spent
>millions
> > of dalasis during the last election. At the end of the day, he could
>only
> > ‘win’ because he ferried Casamance Jolas into the country to vote for
>him.
> > He also had vermin like you scaring people telling them that if Yaya
>loses
> > there will be turmoil in the country. The end result? Some innocent
>Gambians
> > put ‘security’ over everything else and succumbed to intimidation. I
>tell
> > the people that they are just postponing their ordeal.
> >
> > The proverbial ink was hardly dry when Yaya vindicated my point that
>people
> > were just postponing their ordeal.  People that thought giving Yaya a
> > ‘victory’ will bring peace to the country are sadly mistaken. Were those
> > people not rounded up and jailed and their families and compounds
>attacked
> > by APRC thugs? What kind of ‘open mind’ do you suggest we look at the
> > illegal detention of people like Muhammad Sillah, George Christensen and
> > Baboucarr Gaye, to name a few? How do you suggest we look at the closure
>of
> > a Radio Station on the basis of some spurious civil (as opposed to
>criminal)
> > claims?
> >
> > You must be out of your mind to think that people will take seriously
>Essa
> > Sey’s silly gimmicks trying to serve as a person interested in dialog to
> > bring sanity in our country. Of course we know that you, Essa Sey,
>Tombong,
> > Fatoumatta Jahumpa and all the APRC clowns on G_L are all a bunch of
> > nonentities. You CANNOT and have no desire of speaking truth to Yaya
>that
> > will jeopardize your positions. I told people long time ago that talking
>to
> > you people is pointless. Yaya has to be DEFEATED (NOT negotiated with).
>We
> > know that you are all impotent in front of Yaya when he wants to do his
> > diabolical deeds. You people CANNOT even help yourselves. Why should we
> > expect you to help us when you do NOT even want to recognize the evil
> > inherent in the massacre of our children? I understand that Yaya once
>called
> > one Mr. Ceesay to his (Yaya’s) office. Yaya showed Mr. Ceesay a list of
>38
> > people and told Ceesay that he (Ceesay) was a liar. Apparently, Yaya was
> > miffed because Ceesay fed him wrong information and made him fire 38
>civil
> > servants unjustifiably (what’s new about that?). For feeding Yaya false
> > information leading to the demise of those servants, Ceesay was also
>fired.
> > Guess who is the Mrs. of this Ceesay character. Now, tell me if I should
> > trust Mrs. Ceesay that CANNOT fight for her husband to fight for
>defenseless
> > Gambian children.
> >
> > Gassama, I wonder what gave you the idea that you cannot make reference
>to
> > the Jawara days. Of course you can talk about that if you want. Just
>don’t
> > LIE. Because if you do, you will hear from me. If you read what you
>wrote in
> > your piece about the Jawara era, you will realize why you are confused
>about
> > writing about the Jawara era. How on earth can you say that the Jawara
> > government “[subjugated] a whole nation through a deliberate policy of
> > keeping them [absolutely] ignorant”? Emphasis mine. I wonder where you,
> > Yaya, Essa Sey, Tombong, the entire Jahumpa family, all got your
>education
> > from.
> >
> > Soon you will begin to hallucinate that Yaya brought us Gamtel. In your
>own
> > twisted world, Yaya developed the container terminals at the Ports. Yaya
>was
> > the one that built Yundum airport from scratch. Yaya was the one that
>built
> > the roads in Banjul. Yaya started the Banjul Sewage project. You people
>are
> > simply pathetic. Gassama, some of us were in Banjul right before the
>‘coup’.
> > We are NOT ‘Doctors’ (no disrespect meant here) that left Gambia 20
>years
> > ago and do NOT know what Yaya put there and what he found there and
>built
> > on. This GRTS you are bragging about is a classic example of how you
>mental
> > midgets operate. The Yaya propaganda outfit (GRTS) almost bankrupted one
>of
> > the most productive companies in the country (Gamtel). A company we got
> > thanks to the Jawara government. How did you morons try to rectify the
> > situation? You resolved to bankrupt more companies just to have Yaya to
>come
> > on TV and insult our parents and threaten Gambians with death. You
>proposed
> > to have other ‘Parastatals’ together with Gamtel to continue financing
>the
> > losing proposition (GRTS).
> >
> > The University. ‘Meme chose’. Just amalgamated institutions Jawara put
>there
> > and called it Yaya’s invention. Feel free to discuss the past. Just be
> > prepared to back up your rhetoric with facts.
> >
> > If anybody, I think you are the people that CANNOT come to terms with
>the
> > fact that Jawara is no longer in power. You are the ones always LYING
>about
> > the man in order to make Yaya look good. Left to me alone, we would only
> > talk about Yaya since he is the one in power now and is the one that can
> > order the massacre of defenseless children and loot our coffers. Let us
> > focus on Yaya’s record, since you want to move from the so-called first
> > republic.
> >
> > I am glad that your hopes and aspirations were dashed in the aftermath
>of
> > the elections. Your hopes of having a moron enslave our people will NOT
> > materialize. We will continue to RESIST Yaya and cohorts like you. We
>REFUSE
> > to suffer from ALES. We know we deserve better than child murderers and
> > thieves. We will fight until we get a leader that will develop the
>country
> > AND will NOT enslave our people and loot our meager resources. We will
>see
> > to an end to this sick mediocrity in Banjul.
> > KB
> >
> > >From: Jungle Sunrise <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Yero Mama/The day of reckoning or recognising?
> > >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 13:19:44 +0000
> > >
> > >Yero Mama,
> > >
> > >It is very unfortunate that there are some seemingly intelligent people
>who
> > >doggedly want us to believe that they and they alone have opinions of
>what
> > >right and wrong are; and with that mindset they will resort to all
>sorts of
> > >abuse and vulgarity in an attempt to impose those opinions on all
>others
> > >with differing views. While some of us will not deny that Jammeh, like
>all
> > >humans, is not infallible and has faults, they hold on to the view that
> > >Jammeh is the "devil reincarnate". To them, the 53% of mature Gambians
>who
> > >live in this hell of a place that they want the whole world to believe,
> > >just
> > >don't know what the hell they want. Are these people for real? I simply
> > >cannot understand why a minority of  shysters on this forum seem to
>want
> > >everyone to believe that they and they alone know what is best for the
> > >country. He may represent some people's worst nightmares but not mine.
> > >
> > >When you suggest that we look into things with an open mind and see how
> > >best
> > >to bridge the gap between us through a better understanding of each
>other's
> > >points of view, they dogged refuse and writing you off as some
>sycophant
> > >who
> > >has no human genes or sense in him. Some are only interested in
>wallowing
> > >in
> > >Jammeh's shortcomings refuse to allow any objective discourse of any
>othe
> > >aspect of him knowing full well that jammeh's balance score card is not
> > >that
> > >difficult to rationalise or defend. When you suggest referring our
>recent
> > >past in order to better understand certain issues they will have none
>of
> > >it.
> > >When you cannot make any reference to the Jawara days unless the issue
>is
> > >how The Gambia was "recognised" the world over for being a bastion of
> > >"peace, tranquility and human rights" (whatever that means). What human
> > >rights are they talking about when we were denied any significant form
>of
> > >development? What human rights is there when you subjugate a whole
>nation
> > >through a deliberate policy of keeping them aboslutely ignorant? Even
>the
> > >national radio to inform us of government policies they will not
>maintain
> > >it. We all remember the days when radio Gambia will be off the air for
> > >hours
> > >simply because a few five Dalasi fuses were not available. But no; we
> > >cannot
> > >talk about the past. If they don't want to discuss the PPP record
>honestly
> > >and compare it with what prevails now in its entirity, how on earth can
> > >anyone come an informed conclusion about Jammeh or his government? Fact
>of
> > >the matter is that some just hate the guy and no matter what, they will
> > >never see anything good in whatever he does. No wonder with that
>mindset
> > >some cannot still come to terms with the fact that the first republic
>is
> > >truely dead. Wistfully looking back to those days when nobody was
> > >accountable for anything done in the name of the people will all be in
> > >vain.
> > >But try to point that out and you are a sycophant praise singing to
>keep a
> > >job. How ridiculous can one be to come such a simple conclusion is
>beyond
> > >me.
> > >
> > >I had very high hopes for the country when Jammeh was declared the
>winner
> > >of
> > >the recently concluded elections and the leader of main opposition
>party,
> > >Ousainou Darbo called him to concede. Then, I had thought that the
> > >relationship between the ruling party and the UDP will, from then on,
>be
> > >based on mutual respect and fruitful engagement. How quickly those
>hopes
> > >evaporated is mind boggling. Because the legitimacy of Jammeh's first
> > >government was not fully accepted by some in the opposition and that
>did
> > >not
> > >go down well with the APRC, I had assumed that this time round a new
>era
> > >had
> > >dawned. I had assumed that the constant bickering and clashes between
>the
> > >two parties would soon come to an end and some degree of sanity
>restored.
> > >But no. No sooner did we heave a sigh of relieve that the tension in
>our
> > >country would soon be replaced by a unity of purpose to create a better
> > >Gambia, the leadership of the main opposition UDP reneged on their
>earlier
> > >reconciliatory message of respecting the views of the electorate. It is
> > >very
> > >sad when you consider the implication this has for peace and peaceful
> > >co-existence especially between the militant supporters of the two
>parties.
> > >As far as I am concerned everything seems to be back to square one. The
> > >scene now seems to be set for more clashes betwen supporters of the two
> > >parties, more arrests and detensions and more misery for all. And all
>these
> > >because some people cannot and will not accept the fact that, for now,
>God
> > >has destined Yahya to lead us. But as they say, an obstinate man does
>not
> > >hold opinions, but opinions hold him! Very unfortunate if you ask me.
> > >
> > >Have a good day, Gassa.
> > >
> > >>From: YERO MAMA <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > >><[log in to unmask]>
> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>Subject: Re: Mohinder Bains/The day of reckoning or recognising?
> > >>Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 06:36:52 +0000
> > >>
> > >
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