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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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Lamin, I think you just saved yourself time to utilize on other more important things.  There is a reason why Haruna is now on Gambia-L.  The same sinister that sent him packing from the L to the post, is the same sinister that sent him packing from the Post to the L.  So, go figure.  Remember, I mentioned tribal politics, this dude is the definition of tribalism and he has a malady of it.  You are dealing with some of the worst tribalists amongst Gambians, at par with the Jasseh-Contehs of this world.  As you know, Rashidiki has a name for Wolofs - Wawe Wawe people, and Wolofs are by no means alone.  He is among the sickness that yielded us Yaya for another five years and believes in nothing but Mandinka rule after Yaya, to the point of entrenching Yaya in the process.  One year after the elections, what is the "super majority" doing in the Gambia, as I write?  Folks, there is a reason why PDOIS is still standing while the PPP is severely wounded, after being at the helm for thirty years.  We allow the supremacists in the Harunas of the Gambia fester, we better resign to a date with Yaya to his natural death.  One thing is certain though as breathing is to life, the Harunas of the Gambia will have to deal with some of us at every turn sickness and all.  The good news here is while they preach tribal politics against the rest of the opposition, Gambians reject them for it.  The Fulas and the Mandinkas may not have voted for NADD enmass, however, how come they did not vote for Hamat that thought all he and UDP needed was for that slick Henry Gomes to bring them the Ndjago/Catholic/Aku vote, for them to win?  How come he lost everything?  He plays the same game as Yaya and the APRC and that is no different with the UDP.  The sad thing here is, the murderer with illegal power and ill gotten funds used that sickness to his advantage.  In the end, Gambians that needed change for the better for all, end up being the losers because of those that sought change for their own selfish gains.  Folks, just as we will deal with Yaya and the APRC tribalism, we shall also deal with any other tribalist out there.  
 
As to the so-called intellectuals, let them continue to pray harder for a PDOISless Gambia.  The only problem is they may have to pray for their natural life plus fifty years, for Gambians that understand the prerequisites of nation building will continue to demand a progressive Gambia and will fight to the end for it, no matter what the last name of the aggressor sounds like.  In the interim, one can play games to infinity, only to be confronted in the end.  Welcome to the L, Rashidiki!  Some of us are still standing.  How's funding "The Road to a Mandinka Rule in The Gambia Going"?  Your attitude towards change in the Gambia will determine how long Yaya stays to abuse Gambians.  By now you guys have seen the writing on the wall.  If some of you have any ideas of picking up from where Yaya left in poisoning Gambians, I say you have just trippled your dilema, for you will have to go through Gambia first.
 
Chi Jaama
 
Joe
 
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:20:50 +0100> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: WHY IS PDOIS OR NADD MISUNDERSTOOD> To: [log in to unmask]> > Haruna:> > Thanks for your thoughts.> > > > LJDarbo> > Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:> > "Haruna: I guess a formal welcome to GAMBIA-L is in order." JDAM.> > Verily Lamin, I will be remiss if I do not thank the coleague/s who invited > me in their austere company. I am grateful.> > "You do have a pretty unique conversational style, and I must admit your > pieces have the capacity to both amuse and educate. And so I'm glad to be > reading you on GAMBIA-L." JDAM.> > > You're too kind Lamin. It's funny I feel the same way about you and our > coleagues here. I guess one good turn yields another. Thank you all the same.> > "Clearly, your complaints about PDOIS are not practically addressable, and > having witnessed prior performances of yours on the matter, it appears that > your views are set in stone. Under the circumstances, it is probably prudent to > decline the invitation to convince you about PDOIS." JDAM.> > Wait just a friggin minute. If you think you're gonna get off the hook so > easily, you got another thing coming. I have no complaints about PDOIS. I share > my perceptions and opinions of PDOIS because they claim to have the best > interests of my friends and fellow citizens at heart. A few of the friends are > yourself, Joe, Musa Sana, Musa Jeng, Jabou, Alpha, almost ad-infinitum. So I'm > not gonna let them misguide my friends without a fight. If PDOIS takes them > as complaints, well I guess we're on the right track because ordinarily when > complaints are forwarded to government by 'lesser ctizens', an aim to > mitigate those complaints is afoot. If you believe then that my concerns are not > practically addressable, are you not in effect abandoning the cardinal value of > a political party? unless of course the NEW PDOIS is not a political party. > Besides, our coleague and friend Suntou has shared that revolving centenary > Gambians have shared those same concerns. Are you prepared at this juncture to > give up on those centenarians too??? What grander achievement is there for a > political party than the immunization of etchings in parchment? That reminds > me, does PDOIS know if the children of Gambia are properly immunized? Suntou, > I'm coming to golf later, I know you can't wait. Closet golf-lover. Football > my friggin pinky. By football I take it you mean soccer? New Gambians! > Lamin, you underestimate me. Remmember I have been sympathetic to PDOIS' fortunes > in electoral matters once. I did not withdraw consciousness on fancy and > grafignette. There is hope here. Carpe Diem honore!> > "I am happy to have persuaded Malanding despite your belated attempt to > muddy the waters." JDAM.> > I didn't realize you had persuaded Kukeh of anything PDOIS yet. I could be > mistaken. Kukeh don't take the bait. These PDOIS people take us all for > idiots. Unless Lamin can persuade you publicly here and you acknowledge that here, > I am not convinced. Besides, they have to persuade me, Suntou, Chongan, > Kanteh, Jallow, Gassama, Jatta, Joof, Jobe, Bunama, Musa Sana, Joe, Galleh, Bailo, > Kejau, Baldeh, Bah, Alpha, and all the folk in Texas too. If they think its > been hard for them for the last 20 years, they ain't seen nuttin yet. Let us > hold their worn feet to the fire or they can kiss our votes goodbye. And Sine > die for our friend Lamin.> > "And neither Suntou, nor myself, considers PDOIS as a communist outfit." > JDAM.> > I know. You're in defiant denial. The day you and Suntou come to that > realisation is the day PDOIS comes off the hinges. That prospect is too heavy a > burden for the two of you.> > "There appears to be some religious zealotry in Suntou if his recent > postings on Ahmadiyya's are anything to go by. In light of the monumental task > facing us as a nation, what with the illegal arrests, detentions, torture, and > unexplained disappearances and deaths, I am not the least concerned about which > religion a fellow Gambian affiliates with." JDAM.> > Why are you following Suntou around men? I like Ahmadiyya you know. Just not > at the expense of the life of Gambia. Sorry Suntou. You guys are too funny > men.> > "I am happy to have a nonbeliever for President if the person is committed > to the rule of law." JDAM.> > I agree with you here Lamin. I'm confident Suntou agrees too. Maybe this is > the only reason Suntou hasn't totally leaned over into the ditch yet. I got > an idea for you to totally coral Suntou. This one will cost you $1000.00 Lemme > know Lemme know.> > "I should content myself by informing you that PDOIS is not only the oldest > functional party in Gambia, but also the only party whose leadership are > invited to share their views about politics with fellow citizens." JDAM.> > Keywords Lamin: oldest, functional (merely existing), invited to share views > about politics with fellow citizens.> Let us do some Rithmetic. Politics in Gambia happens within a two month > window of the entire five years. 2 out of 60, that is 3.3%. We assume that when > they are invited to talk outside that window, they talk about issues other > than politics. In that window, they need not wait to be invited because they > share the stage with other parties contesting the same offices. So out of that > 2-month window, their message is disseminated for 1/3 of the value-yield or > 33%. PDOIS history in the polls can be between 2 and 3% of total votes cast. > Let's take the higher 3%. PDOIS' value so far is 3.3x33x3. PDOIS communicates > its message in FOROYAA and in language that only 1% of gambians can understand > and utilize. We can extrapolate this datum to the year where 2% of Gambians > will be able to fathom PDOIS' message and as the Russian Federation and North > Korea move away from communism. In effect, PDOIS' political value to Gambia > and Gambians is 3.3x33x3x2. I'm not good at math so I don't know what that > translates to. Besides I shouldn't be giving this information for free because > they're trying to mislead my friends.> > "In a two-way free and fair electoral contest under a governance system > grounded in the rule of law, PDOIS of today has the ability to defeat the APRC > nationally." JDAM.> > Lamin, you may be surprised but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this > could be true. It then brings us to the question: Is PDOIS for politics or the > defense of the rule of law, or both? You premised this two-way contested victory > on the rule of law so I think PDOIS may be better suited to prepare the > requisite rule of law for this eventual victory. This is where you will find the > communist.> > "The dominance of the PPP, and now the APRC, has more to do with their > corrupt governance and lawless elections than acceptance by the people, and with > your acumen, I thought appreciating this would be obvious." JDAM.> > Trust me Lamin, that fact has not escaped me. PPP by benign default and APRC > by ignorant trepidation. That still does not recuse PDOIS from demonstrating > value and worth. Besides that two-way victory is not here yet. I'd be > working like crazy to get there.> > "As you have clearly made up your mind, I do not think you are realistically > open to persuasion about PDOIS obvious merits." JDAM.> > Lamin, again you underestimate me. I am comprehensively conversant with > PDOIS' actual merits and envisioned merit. And I have not made my mind up as to > governing political party. I am focused on the life of the citizen at this > time. I suggest PDOIS, UDP/NRP, and APRC focus similarly. It is the erstwhile > citizen who will let PDOIS govern. This statement is loaded and full of > actionable info Lamin. PDOIS should treat it carefully and with circumspect.> > If anyone in PDOIS can convince me to come back to PDOIS, it will be you or > Musa Sana or Alpha if he tries. It will not be easy because the lives of > multitudes of my fellow citizens depends on it. I suggest you begin already. 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