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Malik,

You know people like KB will be worst than Jammeh in power,this should be
clear for all now.Who is even Hajatta to demand to know our stands in the
struggle against AFPRC,we owe that to the Gambian masses and that we are
doing it according to our reality and will continue to do it the way it best
suits our reality.A small group like ours will continue to have limitations
and a final note to both Hamjatta and KB there is only one MOJA-G  in the
Gambia,I hope this will help you to rest your case.
For Freedom
Saiks
----- Original Message -----
From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: Is MOJAG Now In Cahoots With The APRC??!!


> Malik, I know you are a mental midget, but surely you can read a question
> mark when you see one. I am sure Hamjatta can defend himself adequately
from
> your irrational rattling. He raised a thought-provoking subject about
where
> Moja-G stands on certain issues and the behavior of certain prominent
Moja-G
> members. As usual, you are totally off the mark talking about nonsense.
Get
> to grip, boy and ease up on whatever you are smoking.
> KB
>
>
> >From: malik kah <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Is MOJAG Now In Cahoots With The APRC??!!
> >Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:42:22 +0000
> >
> >Professor Hamjatta, you can fool the gullible but you cannot fool the
> >enlighthened. It is clear that you have developed the art of distortion,
in
> >fact you have taken it to a completely new level. As  is the case you
seem
> >to run out of issues of substance that can further the polimics, hence
you
> >resort to fishing for a topic and all you can come with is this twisted
> >logic of yours. Your assertions and pretence was to make an analysis of
the
> >political configuration and the dynamics of the present
inter-relationships
> >between the different political groupings, but the basis of your theory
is
> >completely flawed, one moment you talk about MOJA, the next moment you
come
> >with your usual antics and attacks on PDOIS, you seemed so obsessed with
> >the
> >party so much so that  the head and tail of you discour becomes jagged
and
> >completely out of context.
> >
> >What is it really you want to say?, because if it is the case that you
are
> >trying to establish a link between PDOIS and MOJA you have  failed quite
> >abysmally, [with all due respect to MOJA] and if it is the reverse you
want
> >to link APRC to PDOIS that would be even ridiculous and laughable. After
> >all, the entire country has witnessed,  in two occassion, when Jammeh
> >offered two ministerial positions to the party and they made it
abundantly
> >clear that they will never be a party to a regime, that has usurped power
> >behind the people. If this is not clear to you, for you to play mischief
> >then it is apparent that you have for obvious reasons dragged PDOIS just
to
> >slander the intergrity of the party.
> >
> >In your irrelivant subject, you should have had the audacity to sight the
> >relatioship between the dyfunct PPP the APRC and UDP, for it is obvious
> >that
> >the vast majority of the APRC are either former members of the PPP or
> >disaffected, disillusioned UDP. The relationship between the UDP and APRC
> >is
> >best epitomised by former sos DR. SEDAT JOBE. You may try to play this
down
> >but to genuine observer, the glowing tribute paid by TWO FACED Darbo
> >testifies to this fact.
> >
> >If you had been objective in your analysis this obvious fact should not
> >have
> >escaped you, but with a devious mind like yours you would always try to
> >distort reality,  hence arrive at erronious conclusions. The fact that
you
> >have a phobia against PDOIS testifies to the fact you are dogmatic, for
> >PDOIS has never for once threatened, coerced, intimidated or induce
> >anybody,
> >all they are doing is telling the people as it is, that power belongs to
> >them and the resources of the nation should be used for everybody and not
> >just for the comfort of a few, well this is perfectly legitimate, unless
> >you
> >have  a different motive as it appears.
> >
> >As the case appears people like you do not hate PDOIS but you fear what
it
> >stands, because all you want is to mystify the people that you are the
only
> >ones with the answers therefore the people should subdue to your kind
> >whiles
> >you dominate them and squander the resources of the nation. This type of
> >mysticism is what PDOIS has come to combat and that is the reason why in
> >their campaigns people leave it with more awareness. As oppose to UDP
> >rallies which are characterised with rhetorics, insults, platitudes and
> >empty promises. PDOIS is making waves it is only a matter of time before
> >people will realised that DARBO, YAYA AND JAWARA, drink from the same
> >fountain of the peoples blood and sweat. If the people come to realise
> >this,
> >which many are beggining to,then DARBOS AND JAMMEHS would be history.
> >
> >In fact the only thing that is helping the perpetuation of Jammeh is the
> >confusing role the UDP is playing. They spend their campaigns distracting
> >the people with their  misleading and insincere messages, and this at
times
> >befoggs their understanding ,but the people are not fools, it is becoming
> >apparent that the UDP ESSENTIALLY IS THE PPP AND APRC, for after all they
> >would just impoverish the people as Jawara has done for decades and
Jammeh
> >is doing now.  Further onto that they are  seeing the same people  that
> >were
> >the technocrats under PPP in the APRC. So nothing has change, one group
of
> >oppressors replaced by another that is all there is, and that is why
their
> >confrontation is always violent none of the two groups have come to serve
> >the intrest of the people. PPP under Jawara left the people as destitutes
> >under Jammeh the people are still destitute, essentially not much has
> >change.
> >
> >These are the facts you should be talking about but instead you  bent on
> >playing mischief,  coming with a very cheap shot on a very irrelivant
> >subject.
> >
> >In fact it is all lies to accuse MOJA as going to bed with APRC. I happen
> >to
> >know many MOJA members they are dignified people who are very resolute
and
> >consistent with their believes, and we have to judge them for their
> >individual actions, just because some members went to work with Jammeh
does
> >not make the organisation guilty, just as you cannot arrive at such a
> >conclusion because DR JOBE was an APRC MARRIONETTE.
> >
> >You see in trying to distort the facts will entagle your self, for PDOIS
IS
> >AN INDEPENDENT PARTY that owes no obligation to any group or persons. You
> >would always expose yourself because of your dogmatic oppostion to such a
> >sincere party. I hope with MR cement head you will deal with what your
part
> >has to offer the Gambians which only you two happen to know about, do not
> >distract PDOIS, they are writing and putting their vase before the
Gambian
> >people without insult or smears. You lot should grow up and move away
from
> >such infantile childish gibbering gives us your parties literature post
it
> >in the net for us to talk and analyse objectively and please, please do
not
> >give us the skeletal manifesto you adopted the last. It was so devoid of
> >substance one would believe that it was written by a political novice.
> >
> >May be professor Hamjatta you can delve into the archives  and produce
> >those
> >bombastic, tautological theories. In the mean time PDOIS IS MAKING WAVES,
> >PEOPLE ARE COMING IN THEIR THOUSANDS TO HAVE DIALOGUE, SO THAT THEY CAN
> >GIVE
> >AND TAKE.
> >
> >POWER BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, I KNOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
> >>From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Is MOJAG Now In Cahoots With The APRC??!!
> >>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:03:36 EDT
> >>
> >>I've always said that there is something inherently unsettling and
> >>disreputable about the relationship between the AFPRC/APRC and MOJAG -
or
> >>whatever is left of it nowadays. What at best describes this unsettling
> >>and
> >>disreputable relationship is a deep-seated ambivalence towards the
record
> >>of
> >>Jammeh along the same wave-lengths of - oh dear, not them again! -
PDOIS'
> >>own
> >>deep-seated ambivalence towards the question of Jammeh. For now, i shall
> >>shelve the parallels that make these two parallel cousins, i.e., MOJAG
and
> >>PDOIS correspond together: fanatically anti- Jawara/PPP and a "furious
> >>hatred" of everything and or anything bourgeois and liberal.
> >>
> >>If during its heydays MOJAG was to be believed, it opposed the PPP and
> >>decried Jawara's autocratic-cum-capitalist order because of the damages
it
> >>inflicted on liberty and freedom. The themes are familiar: from the
> >>debilitating effects of the democratic deficit inherent in the body
> >>politic
> >>to the gross and intolerable inequalities that "the system" inflicted on
> >>the
> >>Gambia's poor and underprivilege, MOJAG waxed indignant and lyrical at
all
> >>sorts of social justice themes that leftists liked to invoke during the
> >>70s
> >>and 80s. And so MOJAG represented progress whilst those that opposed
them
> >>-
> >>notably the PPP and Jawara - were political decadents or reactionaries.
Or
> >>they would imagine and even led us to believe. MOJAG's apparent believe
in
> >>their own pose led to a more romantic and subversive revolutionary
> >>existence
> >>in the emerging urban areas of the Gambia, where their political
agitation
> >>is
> >>the stuff of legend and subsequently earned them political exile
abroad -
> >>notably in Scandinavia. This tour de force of an historical bravado is
> >>what
> >>we are made and led to believe about MOJAG's history in Gambian
politics.
> >>
> >>Let me - with the hindsight of late modern Gambian history - offer a
> >>dissenting view. I strongly believe that the ripples discontinuity and
> >>ambivalence in MOJAG - or whatever is left of it - of late to a very
large
> >>extent discredits and places a huge question mark over the achievements
or
> >>lack thereof of their heady and romantic revolutionary existence before
> >>they
> >>were forced into exile. Stuff happens: if MOJAG was selflessly motivated
> >>in
> >>agitating against Jawara on such social justice issues like political
> >>liberty
> >>and socio-economic equality for all Gambians, then in the AFPRC/APRC,
they
> >>have such themes in plenitude. Whichever you feel like slicing the
> >>AFPRC/APRC
> >>cake, themes of nefarious politics and injustices are there for you to
> >>choose
> >>to your filling. Many a commentator - and i mean commentators who never
> >>hesitated to denounce Jawara - were in agreement that Jammeh makes
Jawara
> >>look saintly. More to the point, with Jammeh, it ought to be personal:
> >>Jammeh
> >>has more than a year ago illegally incarcerated a prominent founding
> >>member
> >>of MOJAG - Dumo Sarho. With Jammeh, MOJAG ought to have gone into the
> >>trenches. The man literally provides them with all the ammunition needed
> >>for
> >>political mutiny. Yet, to date, i have as of yet to see, read, hear or
> >>hear
> >>of through third parties MOJAG unequivocally denouncing Jammeh along the
> >>same
> >>lines as they did with Jawara. I'm all ears.
> >>
> >>Instead, what we have now from MOJAG is a treacherous, disreputable and
> >>deplorable trend that will in all essence end up denigrating any sense
of
> >>achievement MOJAG may lay claims to. From a very prominent MOJAG
activist
> >>-
> >>Sarjo Jallow - serving the brutal regime that illegally continues to
> >>incarcerate a former comrade to a splinter group from MOJAG milking
State
> >>funds through the conduit of an NGO, remnants of whatever it is that is
> >>left
> >>of MOJAG are in cahoots with the APRC. How did we figure all this out?
Now
> >>during the weekend, i had a very interesting conversation with a
source -
> >>who
> >>happens to know very well some of these MOJAG operatives and what they
are
> >>up
> >>to in Banjul these days. The unimpeachable source put it to me that not
> >>only
> >>do we have a prominent MOJAG operative serving in Jammeh's gov't but in
> >>fact
> >>a splinter group formed around Ousman Manjang is very much informally
> >>involved with the APRC and Jallow is their contact man. How does it all
> >>work
> >>out? According to my source, Manjang operates an NGO call GAMSEM which
> >>supposedly helps out the unemployed young; and Sarjo Jallow sits on the
> >>board
> >>of this outfit. When the NGO runs out of cash or needs new contracts to
be
> >>in
> >>business, Sarjo uses his position of influence as a Secretary of State
to
> >>hand Manjang gov't contracts and so the NGO becomes the trough for
> >>cementing
> >>the old revolutionary network. And so the vicious circle goes ... More
to
> >>the
> >>point, another source of mine once told me that whatever it is that
Sarjo
> >>is
> >>up to within the APRC, he is in it with Manjang: on several occasions,
he
> >>chanced upon Manjang at Sarjo's office looking for gov't contracts to
fill
> >>the trough. All of which should help explain why a year ago - together
> >>with
> >>my compatriots, Brothers Saul Khan and Kebba Dampha - i was not able to
> >>make
> >>Manjang denounce Sarjo's involvement with the APRC. What i didn't know
> >>then,
> >>of course, was that Sarjo's involvement with the APRC is, in extension,
> >>Manjang and his splinter MOJAG group's involvement with the APRC.
> >>
> >>This is not the end of the story. As my source puts it to me again,
> >>Manjang
> >>and his group - like many anti- Jawara/PPP fanatics - have taken up a
more
> >>unbecoming and disreputable position vis-a-vis the current political
> >>atmosphere. My source tells me that members of MOJAG or whatever is left
> >>of
> >>it - especially the wing of it that aligns with Manjang and his
Marxism -
> >>is
> >>arguing that in this presidential election, whatever keeps Jawara out is
> >>better than what brings him back. Here they are merely saying that the
> >>anti-
> >>Jawara votes are best served by going to the candidate and or party with
> >>the
> >>clout to win the elections and resolutely opposed to a Jawara
come-back -
> >>as
> >>it happens, the APRC. A while ago, my able compatriot, the indefatigible
> >>Kebba Dampha, warned of a mentality which gives succour to the corrupt
> >>dictatorship: the "we hate Jawara more" mentality, as he put it then.
Now
> >>more than ever this disease is everywhere: from inside the Gambia to
> >>Gambia-L, this nonsense is the genesis of the current anti- Jawara
> >>hysteria.
> >>
> >>The question becomes relevant: is MOJAG - or whatever it is that is left
> >>of
> >>it - in cahoots with the murderous and corrupt fascist APRC? Recent
events
> >>suggest that there indeed exist a very disreputable relationship between
> >>certain influential MOJAG operatives and the APRC that is deeply
> >>unsettling
> >>and ambivalent. Whatever our hesitation to denounce everything MOJAG
stood
> >>or
> >>fought, there is no doubt in the minds of many decent Gambians that
MOJAG
> >>-
> >>or whatever it is that is left of it that aligns with Ousman Manjang and
> >>Sarjo Jallow - is a disreputable force; whose integrity has been left in
> >>tatters by their association with the APRC. In this list of dishonoured
> >>political forces, they've joined their parallel cousins - the PDOIS.
> >>
> >>Hamjatta Kanteh
> >>
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