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Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 5 Jul 2000 23:56:40 +0100
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Hamjatta,

Let me start from here ,I know your understanding of Marxism/Socialism is
very,very different from mind,for that matter I am not here going to argue
if the Cuban economic system is socialist or not.Yes the big difference
between Cuba and the Western world is not that Fidel is a dictator.The big
difference lies in the fact that Fidel is more concern with how to built a
just society were every body could be treated as human,such ideas and wishes
do not fit in a capitalist society that believes that the only way to
upgrade human conditions is to allow the exploitation of man by man be a
fundamental principle both at the level of production and  our human
relationship.So from the start these are two polls far apart from each
other,the West will critic Cuban on the bases of the countries political
system,they call it dictatorship.When Florida exposed the lies of Western
democracy,Fidel was jubilation,he was telling them to come to Cuba to learn
about democracy.In Cuba you are not denied to vote because you are black but
they can deny you to vote because they consider you to be reactionary and in
America you can be denied to vote because you are black.In America you have
to be a big  fat-pig to have the best medical treatment and in Cuba this is
free for all.You don't pay to even go to school compare it to the USA.
Cuba is poor,we know at this present moment that it is not because of the
economic model of the State,because from the beginning,this political
,economic model have been  deny the right to life by a mighty supper
power,the United States of America.Bro if I insist that if it is not the
American blockade,Cuba will be the most economic prosperous country in that
region.There are evidence to support me,as just mention above,look at their
medical sector,look at their sports men and women.Cuba  that poor little
country  that have for decades resist fascist attacks   and continue to
survive is a proof of the will of people and their nation.You know bro
Hamjatta,the day the Gambian People decide to over throw the AFPRC regime,Dr
Jammeh will not spend that night in Kaninlia.There is no force on earth that
can "resist the will of the People".The day Cubans want to get rid of
Casstro,not even big America can safe him,he will go that night.Americans
are bullies and you know how bullies are,they don't learn their lesson,they
don't care because they believed they can always make a difference the next
time.If America should go and overthrow the Jammeh regime and installed
Darboe to power,how many people will jubilant in the L ?
Calling Fidel a dictator is not a word found by his own people but by the
West,they are killing more People in America than they do in Cuba,done in
the name of the State,every year.Is president Jammeh a dictator ?there are
elections every 4 years in the Gambia.For 30 years president Jawara have
been winning elections in the Gambia,you know how he love to travel to
London and play golf  whiles Gambian Children go  to school barefooted.This
is also not dictatorship.It is Felid who is a dictator because it is only
members of the communist party who can vote him into office and everything
else is bullshitt.Hamjjata you and I know that even though the Gambian
people when to vote on election day to be represented in parliament,I dont
have to tell you that I know that it is not the people who are represented
in that house.All forms of decrees have been passed in that house to
minimise ,control ,dictate the will of the People,never will they pass a law
in that  house that binds the government to make sure that the ground-nuts
of the farmers are bought.
It is you who believe that Fidel is a gentle devil but not the Cuban
People,the Cuban People are all literates,they can take care of that better
than any body else.
Serious bourgeoisie economics might very well tell you that Marx is as alive
as he was during his time.His view of the almost permanent crisis of
capitalism is a a day to day life,the anti-capitalist demonstrations from
Seatle  to Gothenburg are attended by thousands of people who don't care
about Marx but their survival.These thousands of Europeans are not in the
forefront because of nationalism,they know that all this talk about economic
globalisation is how effective they could be exploited.True. even the most
out -spoken liberal Democrats are not true to their own believed,if not
Kyoto would not have been a dead case now.Profit is what matter and nothing
else.The Permanent crisis between the European Union and the USA is a
Typical example.You cannot criticise Cuba for not been able to provide for
her people,Cuba has been trying to build a society that is human,you cannot
have that type of society under capitalism,you know capitalism is very
brutal,dirty,capitalism have no taste for social justice.
My critic of Cuba is very politically and bringing  it here will not help to
explain what I want to say.If you are trying to tell me that the  evilness
of Fidel is rap up in his dedication for the advancement of  his people and
not himself,I pray for that that day when a president of the Gambia could
have been describe this way,the war against illiteracy,decadence ect would
have come a long way than our more than 30 years of capitalist,open
democratic society.

For Freedom
Saiks
----- Original Message -----
From: Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: World Bank President Praises Cuba


> Hamjatta,
>
> I am very sorry that I would not be able to get back to you right now,but
I
> will be able to do so very soon and thank you for your response.
> For Freedom
> Saiks
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: World Bank President Praises Cuba
>
>
> > In a message dated 04/07/2001 12:50:07 GMT Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask]
> > writes:
> >
> >
> > > << Hammjatta,
> > > I am not taking  this one with any seriousness,how can you seriously
> discuss
> > > the Cuban economic and social problems without a single word about the
> over
> > > 30 years  brutal and unjust US economic blockade of this tine little
> country
> > > with almost no resources ,perhaps except "Sugarcanes".This is not
> serious.
> > > For Freedom
> > > Saiks >>
> >
> >
> > Saiks,
> >
> > For your information, i do not approve of the unilaterally imposed US
> > economic blockade against Cuba. As a free trade liberal, i only endorse
> > restrictions on free trade or economic blockades under extreme
> circumstances
> > and where it is determined that it would undermine the free market.
Cuba,
> > despite all our objections to the repugnant dictatorship of Castro and
our
> > sympathies with the democratic forces, doesn't qualify for trade
> restrictions
> > and or economic blockades of the scale the US is unilaterally imposing
on
> the
> > country. For this reason, i'm opposed to the unilaterally imposed US
> economic
> > blockades. However, if the US had engaged in what i call direct targeted
> > sanctions against the political dictatorship of Cuba, i would have no
> > troubles in supporting such a move. Similar principles apply to Iraq and
> any
> > other political dictatorship.
> >
> > My own conviction is that free trade is far better equipped to end
> > dictatorships than economic blockades or trade restrictions. The reason
> for
> > this is simple. When you impose economic blockades on a country in the
> name
> > of freedom and democracy, you only end up with the reverse of your
> ultimate
> > aim: a closed society that eventually resents the 'outsiders' who
imposed
> the
> > economic blockades and effectively  strengthening the dictatorship. The
> > experience of Iraq and Cuba are telling. On the other hand, if free
trade
> had
> > its way, such societies will open and the taste of freedom will make it
a
> > demand that the dictatorship will be in short supply of. There are more
> > reasons why Adam Smith glorified the 'invisible hand' associated with
> > capitalism. This is one of such reasons.
> >
> > To be sure, the unilaterally imposed US economic blockades has
negatively
> > impacted on Cuba's overall economic performance. That is regrettable and
> i'm
> > all for a review of the economic blockade with the ultimate intention of
> > coming with a policy position that merely targets directly the political
> > dictatorship and let free trade have its way with ordinary people. I
> > wouldn't, however, factor the US economic blockade too much given its
> > unilateral nature and the fact that many countries have defied this US
> action
> > and freely trading with Cuba. US allies or satellite States like Canada,
> an
> > economic giant of her own, have notably defied the US on this blockade
and
> > freely trade with Cuba despite the island's repugnant political
> dictatorship.
> >
> > Let me end this by posing a question: will you ever support any calls
for
> > sanctions to be imposed on the Gambia in the event that Jammeh steals
the
> > next elections? Lets face it: the Cuban exiles in the US who have
strongly
> > and successfully lobbied US gov'ts to maintain/strengthen the economic
> > blockade against the Castro dictatorship appeal to similar to principles
> and
> > convictions as those of us seeking the end of the Jammeh dictatorship.
If
> you
> > end up supporting some form of sanctions against the Gambia, are you
> telling
> > me that Castro should have a different treatment from the likes of
Jammeh?
> > Why? Because Castro claims to be socialist and the rest apparently are
> not?
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Hamjatta Kanteh
> >
>
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