Not so Haruna, I think you put the argument with greater eloquence than I would had the time or the capability to do so. Am sure Mr Darboe would argue the contrary with similar eloquence, but at the end of the day, our concern will be to find some remedy for the multitude of defenseless Africans at the hands of their own power hungry leaders.
Malamin
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I spoke too soon Malamin.
Haruna.
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My only concern is will Africa put in place of the ICC, a mechanism to at least
say sorry to so many victims. Leaving the victims to their own devise will only
encourage revenge and more violence on the continent. Imagine someone elected
president can be sitting comfortably in office with such a horrendous past.
Malamin
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Interesting Niamorkono, but this is a campaign I cannot now, and maybe will
never support given the current dynamics of international public life and the
ICC record thus far. International criminal justice ala ICC does not help the
pursuit of freedom in Africa. It does not restrain dictatorship in any manner
meaningful to the ordinary and powerless. The standards that trigger an
international
response are too high and selecting targets for prosecution too discriminatory.
No question there are arguments pro and con, but on balance, the dignified
conduct is for Africa to exit the ICC. It is a big area, and God willing, I
shall take a look at it in the coming months, maybe years. Desmond Tutu is a
conscientious human being, but on the ICC, his position is far from compelling.
LJDarbo
On Saturday, 12 October 2013, 13:15, Fye Samateh < [log in to unmask] > wrote:
I will join Tutu to sign the Petition...
Niamorkono...
Dear Avaaz friends,
In 2 days, African leaders could vote to withdraw from the International
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SIGN THE PETITIONIn just 2 days ’ time, African leaders could kill off a great
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The International Criminal Court (ICC) is the world’s first and only global
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who have inflicted terror and fear across their countries, are trying to drag
Africa out of the ICC , allowing them the freedom to kill, rape, and inspire
hatred without consequences.
I know that together we can change this. But we have to join hands and call on
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arduous one. I have seen the very worst in Darfur and Rwanda, but also the very
best with the reconciliation in South Africa. During this journey, I have seen
great gains made that protect the weak from the strong and give us all hope.
The ICC is one of these beacons of hope.
This threat to the ICC started precisely because the court was doing its job. It
charged Kenya's Deputy President for killing people who rallied against him
during an election and Sudan's President for murdering women and children in D
arfur. Now Kenya and Sudan are lobbying all of Africa to pull out of the court
and destroy its chance of success.
But in Darfur, Congo, Cote D’Ivoire and Kenya, the ICC has played a key role in
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The main argument by some leaders with a guilty conscience is that the ICC is a
Western witch-hunt as most of the investigations have happened in Africa. But
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Friday is a key judgement day. Will our African leaders stand on the side of
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to stand on the side of justice and support the International Criminal Court: https://secure.avaaz.org/en/justice_for_africa_icc/?bgJNBab&v=30048 I've seen some of the brightest moments in human history, moments where we
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With hope and appreciation for this community,
Desmond Tutu
More information:
Botswana Supports International Criminal Court (Voice of America) http://www.voanews.com/content/botswana-supports-international-criminal-court/1764960.html 130 Groups Across Africa Call for Countries to Back ICC (Human Rights Watch) http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/10/07/%20130-groups-across-africa-call-countries-back-icc Kenya pushing for African split from International Criminal Court (Irish Times) http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/africa/kenya-pushing-for-african-split-from-international-criminal-court-1.1549427 Annan defends International Criminal Court (News 24) http://www.news24.com/Africa/News/Annan-defends-International-Criminal-Court-20131007 Africa to debate ICC role amid growing opposition (Yahoo News) http://news.yahoo.com/africa-debate-icc-role-amid-growing-opposition-103053710.html Support the Avaaz Community!
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