I meant to say Mr. Mbai and not Mr. Nderry. Apologies.
Malanding
Malanding Jaiteh wrote:
> Mr. Nderry,
> A reminder that Gambia-L's role is best served by remaining impartial
> in the eyes of Gambian. Given that Mr. Jallow is not around to respond
> your claims, I would ask you to exercise some restraint in your postings.
>
> Malanidng
>
>
>
> PA NDERRY wrote:
>
>> We welcome the suspension of Ebou Jallow's membership. Its is a
>> positive step in the right direction. This shameless dude should have
>> long been suspended from the Gambia L. He is anti freedom and his
>> unsolicited mails dispatched to this forum had no doubt put many
>> innocent Gambians into trouble. Hacker Ebou Jallow and his
>> accomplices will live to regret their action. The Freedom Newspaper,
>> is not taking this case lightly. Whoever, is implicated in this
>> conspiracy will face the full brunt of the law. The Gambia L
>> management should be commended for distancing themselves from Ebou's
>> vicious moves to implicate Gambians. He got to be stopped before he
>> put the Gambia into flames. Many people are suffering from the hands
>> of the hands of the "chickas" because of Ebou. His recent atrocities
>> against our innocent subscribers will continue to hunt him. The
>> Freedom Newspaper is not a party to his cowardly and Ungodly act and
>> will take the necessary actions to remedy the situation. The
>> G Post should also should follow suit. The move taken by the Gambia L
>> is not censorship at all. It is geared for the common good. The
>> interest of the Gambian people overrides the interest of "novice
>> and retarded" person like Jallow. When freedom is threatened, we
>> should resort to such positive move. Once again, we thank the G L
>> management for suspending the enemy.
>> Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Thank you Malanding and
>> Laye. I am glad that this criminal behavior is addressed. As you all
>> know, I was a victim at the Gambia Post, when George illegally
>> accessed a private correspondence I had with malik (from the e-mail
>> address he provided Malik) just because I was a thorn in his flesh.
>> Most of the readership turned the other way and some were even happy
>> that it happened to Joe. The good thing was that what I said in that
>> mail was no secret for I said it to him in public. My thoughts at the
>> time was, if I was hiding my ID and made comments regarding the
>> butcher, this fellow would not have hesitated to offer me for a
>> lynching. Thus, we should never be too tired to address criminal
>> behavior against any, by any, for it is also an assault on our
>> collective.
>>
>> Chi Jaama
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Radio Free Gambia Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
>>> Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:25 -0500
>>>
>>> Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a
>>> conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy and
>>> security on this list.
>>>
>>> -BambaLaye
>>>
>>> On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
>>>
>>>
>>>> BambaLaye,
>>>> I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop
>>>> outside the
>>>> theater hall. The rest of the management must be offline now but given
>>>> the urgent need to protect the innocence, I have decided to
>>>> temporarily
>>>> suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management have time to
>>>> discuss
>>>> the matter. Have a good night.
>>>>
>>>> Malanding
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Radio Free Gambia wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Malanding for your prompt response:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and
>>>>> not
>>>>> Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification."
>>>>>
>>>>> I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to
>>>>> protect
>>>>
>>> Pa
>>>
>>>
>>>>> Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond
>>>>> reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or
>>>>> (2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> authority
>>>
>>>
>>>>> to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and
>>>>> protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we
>>>>> speak.
>>>>> Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint to
>>>>> protect
>>>>> his
>>>>> privacy?
>>>>>
>>>>> There appears to be two different thresholds set for management
>>>>> action
>>>>
>>> on
>>>
>>>
>>>>> the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the
>>>>> integrity
>>>>> of this respected list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch
>>>>> my
>>>>
>>> head
>>>
>>>
>>>>> too. Have a great night.
>>>>>
>>>>> -BambaLaye
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
>>>>>> While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be
>>>>>> personal mail
>>>>>> sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I still believe that it
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> unprecedented for management to delist Ebou Jallow without evidence
>>>>>> tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa Nderry's privacy. As
>>>>>> far
>>>>>
>>> as
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to report his address being spoofed
>>>>>> to G-l
>>>>>> management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails without
>>>>>> conscent.
>>>>>> Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification.
>>>>>> Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the managers that Pa
>>>>>> contacted them about the suspended account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would
>>>>>> imagine it
>>>>>> not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some
>>>>>> of
>>>>>
>>> whom
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be
>>>>>> fair to
>>>>>> state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be resubscribed
>>>>>> today, I
>>>>>> hope he would in the future be unambiguous about the status of
>>>>>> Ebou's
>>>>>> postings, but until the G-l management cannot act.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Malanding
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laye,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to
>>>>>>> de-list
>>>>>>> Ebou Jallow because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site was
>>>>>>> illegally
>>>>>>> hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the
>>>>>>> hackers
>>>>>>> ( and
>>>>>>> we all saw that evidence which the management said was the
>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>
>>> they
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> decided
>>>>>>> to de-list his email address for the time being) and Ebou Jallow's
>>>>>>> posting
>>>>>>> of emails he clearly labels as intercepted private communication
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>
>>> Pa
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Nderry
>>>>>>> was what led me to also suggest that Ebou Jallow should be
>>>>>>> de-listed
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> Malanding offered an explanation that still has me scratching my
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> head.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> Jabou Joh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> List Managers:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry Mbai's
>>>>>>> claim
>>>>>>> of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou Jallow
>>>>>>> ([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> demonstrate
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai to
>>>>>>> forward
>>>>>>> Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any satisfactory
>>>>>>> demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr.
>>>>>>> Jallow,
>>>>>>
>>> he
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of the
>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> illegal
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>> compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted -
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>> purported to not have control of his email account. It defies logic
>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the list
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my
>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>> so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There has been precedent to such behavior on the list and the
>>>>>>> outcome
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> swift and clear to all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My apolgies if this issue is being dealt with under the shadows.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -BambaLaye
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm, Ebou Jallow said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From*: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> *Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
>>>>>>>> *To*: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>> *Subject*: Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation please
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pa Nderry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am a visitor to your site. Congrats for setting up the online
>>>>>>>> news
>>>>>>>> service. I enjoy alot going through it .However what is
>>>>>>>> disturbing
>>>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> that people's private lives are constantly dragged into what
>>>>>>>> seems
>>>>>>>
>>> to
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> no links with issues that are relevant to national development. My
>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>> example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the
>>>>>>>> second
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>
>>> I
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is living
>>>>>>>> with, or
>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>> sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It sounds so ridiculous to
>>>>>>>> me. It
>>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> wonder do we have some online saints? Really not. Talking about
>>>>>>>> corruption,
>>>>>>>> politics and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> trying
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> smear others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> source
>>>>>>>> is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping silent entrenches the
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> it is true, I know it is not only the said ambassador who is
>>>>>>>> guilty
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> sexual harassment in the Gambia, not only in government, it is
>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>> in our schools, in the private offices, in our houses, in the
>>>>>>>> media.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>> presently working on a book to be published in some months
>>>>>>>> ahead and
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not
>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> defend the ambassador becuase I am a government officer but I am
>>>>>>>> writing
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> independent opinion and certainly as a journalist as well. I
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>
>>> his
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> casually like the name of any other person of high portfolio in
>>>>>>>> government.
>>>>>>>> Thats all but I feel it is not right to denigrate him on no
>>>>>>>> grounds,
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his
>>>>>>>> family or
>>>>>>>> alone.
>>>>>>>> In fact most of us are living away from our families outside the
>>>>>>>> country.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern us as a nation,
>>>>>>>> why
>>>>>>>
>>> not,
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> belch
>>>>>>>> it out, sure we all need to know, but otherwise, things like who
>>>>>>>> drinks
>>>>>>>> beer
>>>>>>>> or has a girl friend in the corner is not substantiate enough
>>>>>>>> to use
>>>>>>>> valuable time on our newspapers that have such a lofty mission. We
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with
>>>>>>>> mentioning that
>>>>>>>> Katy
>>>>>>>> Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know
>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>
>>> but
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>> it is equally ridiculous to say that.
>>>>>>>> Most times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading
>>>>>>>> reports
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper
>>>>>>>> report
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a
>>>>>>>> summary
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> a boigraphical tale.
>>>>>>>> Therefore Mr. Mbai, I am saying keep up the good work and congrats
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> establishing the newspaper online. But focus on better issues, we
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> loads
>>>>>>>> of bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mariama Khan
>>>>>>>> Postgraduate student
>>>>>>>> Turin, italy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> autho- Futa Toro
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting lips
>>>>>>>> and Proverbs of The Senegambia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mariama Khan
>>>>>>>>
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