Mr. Khan,

Again the logic of your comments is universally sound.  Nobody in their
right minds should dispute its validity.  Yet here is the problem-  I am
surprised at your nonchalant insinuation that you and your little clan are
the victims here instead of the very devils promoting pettiness, spreading
paranoia and sometimes writing alot of rubbish.   Look, just because some
people chose to ignore the ramblings of a pseudo-intellectual( or shall I
say an intellectual wannabe)does not imply that the fool's ideas are sound.
For example, why should anybody want to waste their precious time debating
the Graham's Law, Plato's metaphysics or Karl Popper's theories,
socialism/capitalism when there are concrete and immediate issues at stake.
Some of you need to get your heads out of your dumb asses, frankly. If I
want to be informed about these ideas I will go to a good library or
bookstore and read the materials myself.  I join the L to discuss issues
about the Gambia and not ego-centric personalities, story-telling, Isaiah
Berlin, Darwin or Kim Il Sung.

In this forum, as far as I can see, there is no monopoly of intellect,
truth, virtue or honor. So Mr. Khan please save us your self-righteous crab.


Omar


>From: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Second Quote (o-:)
>Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 23:59:58 -0700
>
>George and Hamjatta,
>
>You must have been reading my mind when you sent your
>replies. Of late, I've had to double-check the
>archives to be sure that I didn't miss some stories,
>because of this constant complaints, insinuations, and
>aspersions about a gang that is out here to silence
>differing opinions. The claim is latently false and
>dishonest. Just like in Darwin's "natural selection"
>theory, or any group for that matter, some are simply
>better than others. So is this forum. Regardless of
>what one believes or wishes, objective readers of
>ideas are bound to follow the ideas of the smarter
>communicator in any setting. Ever heard of the saying
>"you can't keep a good man down?" It's only natural.
>
>So, those without much-of-substance to say, or with
>positions that are SIMPLY UNTENABLE, need to be honest
>with themselves, and admit the truth. People get
>silenced here often, NOT because of differing
>opinions, but because their positions are SHOWN by
>others to LACK MERIT! If it is differing opinions
>only, why are Kebba Jobe and Tombong Saidy still here?
>Besides, it's part of the maturity of any contributor
>here to realize that at least one person will disagree
>with ANY piece you put here. And some will jump out of
>the blue and insult you without warning -like some
>fellow named Omar Ndow did me this week. Even truly
>moderate contributors like Dr. Saine and Katim Touray
>have been harshly attacked here. The Question one has
>to ask is: "Do I burrow myself into the woodwork like
>the overwhelming majority here, or do I defend myself
>and sally forth?" I don't know anyone who likes to be
>attacked and vilified -especially when unjustified. So
>you've got to be able to defend what you put here! If
>someone goes after what you've put forth, and shows
>all of us that your logic, or position doesn't stand
>up to scrutiny, then by God, be honest with yourself,
>and make a conscious effort to know what you're
>talking about next time. We're all better off when
>those MOST KNOWLEEGEABLE in a particular subject give
>us their wisdom. In truth, no one is an expert in
>every field, so our natural abilities, aptitude and
>professional training helps take care of that. Let's
>not settle for mediocrity under the guise of
>"tolerance," or some ridiculous conspiracy theory. Let
>our ideas speak for us.
>
>So the pettiness and Desmond Tutu act needs to go.
>This is a forum for grown-ups. We can do without the
>constant arguments, but we can also do without this
>constant and disingenous aspersions about a conspiracy
>to silence dissenting opinions. Let's all put forward
>our opinions, and let the most sound opinions carry
>the day. And let's all back-off and let others decide
>for themselves. There's something really turn-off-ish
>about constantly pointing to people that others are
>keeping you from saying what you believe. It's
>un-manly. If you truly believe in something, you'll
>say it no matter what: Kebba Jobe Daddy Nying has
>shown us all what I mean. So, let's leave the bitching
>and whingeing to little kids.  We'll never progress,
>when pettiness, and petty-jealousy are used as cover
>to stifle the opinion of ANYONE who may have a better
>idea than our's. Will someone worthy of listening to
>please speak up?
>
>Good morning.
>Saul.
>
>
>--- Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Guys,
> >  Why is everyone speaking in parables all of a
> > sudden. Please guys, I'm
> > begging everyone to stop engaging in these petulant,
> > petty and unwarranted
> > altercations and aequam servare mentem us from
> > constant bickering leading
> > to untimely migraine attacks. Guys, please...atleast
> > not in this critical
> > juncture where we need each other now more than
> > ever.  Such infantile
> > behaviour is not going to get us anywhere. Blaming
> > each other is not going
> > to get us anywhere either. There will always be
> > differing views and people
> > you would love to hate but the task ahead of us
> > should make us put our
> >
>
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