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 Daffeh,
          I am quite certain that with your attitude and your belligerent  
posture towards what you deemed as conventional wisdom or standard  
practices of coalition building, there will never be a coalition  now or  
in the near future. We are at it again, history repeating itself. It  
seems that you are not learning from your past experiences. It did not  
work before and it is not going to work now.

          You are right that Halifa does not mean consensus build around  
your "conventional wisdom" or "standard practices" of coalition  
politics, but if you would have objectively interrogate the premise upon  
which his consensus is built, without injecting your subjective  
inclinations in its overall outcome, you would have understood that no  
matter how coded the language is, grasping its essence  and its material  
import is not really beyond our understanding. You are one who is making  
something simple to be very complicated.

          Whilst you are interested in the continuation of  the system  
with your "conventional wisdom" and "standard practices'", PDOIS is  
interested in a democratic process that will build the democratic and  
institutional framework that underpins the civic, political, economic,  
social and cultural life of the people. We want to rebuild a society.  
You want to perpetuate the status quo. This is the difference.

     We are all eyes and ears waiting for you to move the rest in unity  
and a sense of purpose defined by clear objectives.

     Rene


-----Original Message-----
From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 4:01 pm
Subject: [G_L] PDOIS explains its Absence in Raleigh???????????????

When Halifa said 'consensus', he does not mean consensus build around  
the conventional wisdom or standard practices of coalition politics but  
a consensus built entirely behind his own personal conviction. The  
language is a coded one and ofcourse above the pay grade of his  
disciples and defenders here. So am not surprise that they don't even  
know what they are talking about when they tried to defend Halifa's  
capricious and contemptuous absence at the Raleigh Conference here.

I also noticed that PDOIS's statement was actually fishing for reasons  
to justify Halifa's absence in the Raleigh Conference as this talk about  
exposing or deepening the divide was not mentioned in their letter to  
the organisers but built on Freedom Newspaper's ignoble, distorted and  
embellished report on the exchange between the UDP leader and Hamat Bah  
of NRP. PDOIS simply just moved the goal post to suit their desired  
narrative rather than what they foresaw before the conference.

I think it is about time these people are left alone in their indignant  
closet and let the rest of us move on in unity and a sense of purpose  
defined by clear objectives. Fringe parties tend to collect waifs and  
strays alone the way and that means we can't avoid having certain people  
coming here to basically try to make things fly across the face of  
commonsense in defence of PDOIS.

Thanks
Daffeh

On Saturday, 25 May 2013,  &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; wrote:
&gt; "At this point there are so many divergent interest;  and
&gt; notwithstanding the fact that people want a restoration of  
democracy,
&gt; the motivation f'or the different interest persuasions are real and
&gt; people who share the same interest persuasions will solicit with  
others
&gt; and solidify their positions in any conflict situation."
&gt;
&gt;   This is exactly what I feared. There is a conflict situation  
right in front of our eyes. And there is no glossing over the truth that  
we all have divergent interest, an interest that is motivated by self,  
by greed, by creed, by belief, by ideology, by ethnicity and other  
persuasions.  This is our reality. There is nothing wrong with having  
divergent interests and all these interest motivations, but at this  
crucial period in which we are trying to find a democratic response to  
our political challenges, the rearing of the ugly head of these  
divergent interest can derail, trivialize, marginalize and stop dead in  
its tracks any effort to bring about a meaningful change.
&gt;
&gt;    I can understand the logic in PDOIS's argument, and it is not as  
complicated as others would want to make it. Its conceptual basis  
derives from a fundamental argument that there should be a consensus  
among the opposition political parties, and this consensus should form  
the basis to create a platform that will bring all the opposition  
political parties under one umbrella. This consensus building cannot be  
imposed; it should be arrived at by the opposition political parties  
through the nudging, influence and support of the Diaspora Gambians. And  
it should start in the Gambia.
&gt;
&gt;    At the moment there is a consensus among the opposition  
political parties in the form of the G6. But the agreements of the G6  
and their points of reference is quite different. Even then there has  
been cracks in their unity of purpose, and not all of them agreed to  
non-participation in the national and local government elections. So  
there needs to be a lot of work done with this opposition grouping, and  
they should also be in a position to  elevate the discussion and move  
the agenda to a broader question of a unified political group to contest  
elections, and to choose one person as the leader of the  
opposition-unity in the Gambia.
&gt;
&gt;     Can the UDP, NRP, P.P.P., GMC,  PDOIS and other opposition  
parties come to a consensus to build a unified political front under one  
entity to contest the 2016 elections, and can they choose one among them  
or someone outside their political parties to lead this project? This is  
the question.
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Haruna &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; To: GAMBIA-L &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 9:42 am
&gt; Subject: Re: [G_L] PDOIS explains its Absence in  
Raleigh???????????????
&gt;
&gt; So unite the partisan diaspora first, then seek to unite the  
partisan residents!! Very funny. And life will wait for you as you  
complete uniting the diaspora to move to the resident partisans.  
Allahuwakubaru!!! Kejau has spoken.
&gt;
&gt; Haruna.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: kejau &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; To: GAMBIA-L &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; Sent: Sat, May 25, 2013 5:34 am
&gt; Subject: Re: [G_L] PDOIS explains its Absence in  
Raleigh???????????????
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Hi All, 
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; PDOIS seem to have a genuine reason to not attend the meeting as  
per their letter to the organizers.  Their point seem to be that the  
organizers should take heed from the recently concluded successful  
London conference where no political party was invited as that may  
expose and deepen the divide rather than help bring the opposition  
together as intended. The conference should have aimed to unite the  
diaspora and when all the disparate groups in the diaspora unite, then  
we can invite the opposition to join us, among other things.  
&gt; Thanks. 
&gt; Kejau
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Sent from Samsung Mobile
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; -------- Original message --------
&gt; From: Modou Nyang &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; Date:
&gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt; Subject: Re: [G_L] PDOIS explains its Absence in  
Raleigh???????????????
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Lamin and others, i will respond to your questions Saturday or  
Sunday.
&gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; From: Sariang Marong &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt; Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 7:56 PM
&gt; Subject: Re: [G_L] PDOIS explains its Absence in  
Raleigh???????????????
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; Demba
&gt; Thank you for keeping us abreast. You guys are doing a superb job.  
Again  thank you.
&gt; Wa Salam
&gt; Sariang
&gt;
&gt; Sent from my iPhone
&gt;
&gt; On May 24, 2013, at 11:14 AM, Demba Baldeh  
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; wrote:
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; The PDOIS received a letter from the organizers of the Raleigh  
Conference inviting the Secretary General of PDOIS to a Conference to be  
held in Raleigh North Carolina from the 18thto 20th May aimed at  
deliberating on strategies and tactics on how to effect peaceful change  
in the Gambia .
&gt; The Central Committee of PDOIS met to review the invitation and  
came to the conclusion that two preliminary steps are necessary before  
such a meeting could take place in a manner that would yield the desired  
results of a national consensus on strategies and tactics for peaceful  
political change. First and foremost, the opposition at home had to  
arrive at a consensus on the way forward at the meeting or convey the  
wrong impression that they are so divided that they could not forge a  
United Front for Democratic change. Secondly, the Diaspora also had to  
meet and develop a consensus on the way forward failing which opinions  
could be so divided at the meeting that theway forwardcould become  
illusive. Read more @http://gainako.com/?p=841
&gt; Consensus VS. Compromise.... take it away!!! folks
&gt;
&gt; Demba
&gt;
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