Malik, I know you are a mental midget, but surely you can read a question
mark when you see one. I am sure Hamjatta can defend himself adequately from
your irrational rattling. He raised a thought-provoking subject about where
Moja-G stands on certain issues and the behavior of certain prominent Moja-G
members. As usual, you are totally off the mark talking about nonsense. Get
to grip, boy and ease up on whatever you are smoking.
KB


>From: malik kah <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Is MOJAG Now In Cahoots With The APRC??!!
>Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 19:42:22 +0000
>
>Professor Hamjatta, you can fool the gullible but you cannot fool the
>enlighthened. It is clear that you have developed the art of distortion, in
>fact you have taken it to a completely new level. As  is the case you seem
>to run out of issues of substance that can further the polimics, hence you
>resort to fishing for a topic and all you can come with is this twisted
>logic of yours. Your assertions and pretence was to make an analysis of the
>political configuration and the dynamics of the present inter-relationships
>between the different political groupings, but the basis of your theory is
>completely flawed, one moment you talk about MOJA, the next moment you come
>with your usual antics and attacks on PDOIS, you seemed so obsessed with
>the
>party so much so that  the head and tail of you discour becomes jagged and
>completely out of context.
>
>What is it really you want to say?, because if it is the case that you are
>trying to establish a link between PDOIS and MOJA you have  failed quite
>abysmally, [with all due respect to MOJA] and if it is the reverse you want
>to link APRC to PDOIS that would be even ridiculous and laughable. After
>all, the entire country has witnessed,  in two occassion, when Jammeh
>offered two ministerial positions to the party and they made it abundantly
>clear that they will never be a party to a regime, that has usurped power
>behind the people. If this is not clear to you, for you to play mischief
>then it is apparent that you have for obvious reasons dragged PDOIS just to
>slander the intergrity of the party.
>
>In your irrelivant subject, you should have had the audacity to sight the
>relatioship between the dyfunct PPP the APRC and UDP, for it is obvious
>that
>the vast majority of the APRC are either former members of the PPP or
>disaffected, disillusioned UDP. The relationship between the UDP and APRC
>is
>best epitomised by former sos DR. SEDAT JOBE. You may try to play this down
>but to genuine observer, the glowing tribute paid by TWO FACED Darbo
>testifies to this fact.
>
>If you had been objective in your analysis this obvious fact should not
>have
>escaped you, but with a devious mind like yours you would always try to
>distort reality,  hence arrive at erronious conclusions. The fact that you
>have a phobia against PDOIS testifies to the fact you are dogmatic, for
>PDOIS has never for once threatened, coerced, intimidated or induce
>anybody,
>all they are doing is telling the people as it is, that power belongs to
>them and the resources of the nation should be used for everybody and not
>just for the comfort of a few, well this is perfectly legitimate, unless
>you
>have  a different motive as it appears.
>
>As the case appears people like you do not hate PDOIS but you fear what it
>stands, because all you want is to mystify the people that you are the only
>ones with the answers therefore the people should subdue to your kind
>whiles
>you dominate them and squander the resources of the nation. This type of
>mysticism is what PDOIS has come to combat and that is the reason why in
>their campaigns people leave it with more awareness. As oppose to UDP
>rallies which are characterised with rhetorics, insults, platitudes and
>empty promises. PDOIS is making waves it is only a matter of time before
>people will realised that DARBO, YAYA AND JAWARA, drink from the same
>fountain of the peoples blood and sweat. If the people come to realise
>this,
>which many are beggining to,then DARBOS AND JAMMEHS would be history.
>
>In fact the only thing that is helping the perpetuation of Jammeh is the
>confusing role the UDP is playing. They spend their campaigns distracting
>the people with their  misleading and insincere messages, and this at times
>befoggs their understanding ,but the people are not fools, it is becoming
>apparent that the UDP ESSENTIALLY IS THE PPP AND APRC, for after all they
>would just impoverish the people as Jawara has done for decades and Jammeh
>is doing now.  Further onto that they are  seeing the same people  that
>were
>the technocrats under PPP in the APRC. So nothing has change, one group of
>oppressors replaced by another that is all there is, and that is why their
>confrontation is always violent none of the two groups have come to serve
>the intrest of the people. PPP under Jawara left the people as destitutes
>under Jammeh the people are still destitute, essentially not much has
>change.
>
>These are the facts you should be talking about but instead you  bent on
>playing mischief,  coming with a very cheap shot on a very irrelivant
>subject.
>
>In fact it is all lies to accuse MOJA as going to bed with APRC. I happen
>to
>know many MOJA members they are dignified people who are very resolute and
>consistent with their believes, and we have to judge them for their
>individual actions, just because some members went to work with Jammeh does
>not make the organisation guilty, just as you cannot arrive at such a
>conclusion because DR JOBE was an APRC MARRIONETTE.
>
>You see in trying to distort the facts will entagle your self, for PDOIS IS
>AN INDEPENDENT PARTY that owes no obligation to any group or persons. You
>would always expose yourself because of your dogmatic oppostion to such a
>sincere party. I hope with MR cement head you will deal with what your part
>has to offer the Gambians which only you two happen to know about, do not
>distract PDOIS, they are writing and putting their vase before the Gambian
>people without insult or smears. You lot should grow up and move away from
>such infantile childish gibbering gives us your parties literature post it
>in the net for us to talk and analyse objectively and please, please do not
>give us the skeletal manifesto you adopted the last. It was so devoid of
>substance one would believe that it was written by a political novice.
>
>May be professor Hamjatta you can delve into the archives  and produce
>those
>bombastic, tautological theories. In the mean time PDOIS IS MAKING WAVES,
>PEOPLE ARE COMING IN THEIR THOUSANDS TO HAVE DIALOGUE, SO THAT THEY CAN
>GIVE
>AND TAKE.
>
>POWER BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE, I KNOW YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
>>From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Is MOJAG Now In Cahoots With The APRC??!!
>>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:03:36 EDT
>>
>>I've always said that there is something inherently unsettling and
>>disreputable about the relationship between the AFPRC/APRC and MOJAG - or
>>whatever is left of it nowadays. What at best describes this unsettling
>>and
>>disreputable relationship is a deep-seated ambivalence towards the record
>>of
>>Jammeh along the same wave-lengths of - oh dear, not them again! - PDOIS'
>>own
>>deep-seated ambivalence towards the question of Jammeh. For now, i shall
>>shelve the parallels that make these two parallel cousins, i.e., MOJAG and
>>PDOIS correspond together: fanatically anti- Jawara/PPP and a "furious
>>hatred" of everything and or anything bourgeois and liberal.
>>
>>If during its heydays MOJAG was to be believed, it opposed the PPP and
>>decried Jawara's autocratic-cum-capitalist order because of the damages it
>>inflicted on liberty and freedom. The themes are familiar: from the
>>debilitating effects of the democratic deficit inherent in the body
>>politic
>>to the gross and intolerable inequalities that "the system" inflicted on
>>the
>>Gambia's poor and underprivilege, MOJAG waxed indignant and lyrical at all
>>sorts of social justice themes that leftists liked to invoke during the
>>70s
>>and 80s. And so MOJAG represented progress whilst those that opposed them
>>-
>>notably the PPP and Jawara - were political decadents or reactionaries. Or
>>they would imagine and even led us to believe. MOJAG's apparent believe in
>>their own pose led to a more romantic and subversive revolutionary
>>existence
>>in the emerging urban areas of the Gambia, where their political agitation
>>is
>>the stuff of legend and subsequently earned them political exile abroad -
>>notably in Scandinavia. This tour de force of an historical bravado is
>>what
>>we are made and led to believe about MOJAG's history in Gambian politics.
>>
>>Let me - with the hindsight of late modern Gambian history - offer a
>>dissenting view. I strongly believe that the ripples discontinuity and
>>ambivalence in MOJAG - or whatever is left of it - of late to a very large
>>extent discredits and places a huge question mark over the achievements or
>>lack thereof of their heady and romantic revolutionary existence before
>>they
>>were forced into exile. Stuff happens: if MOJAG was selflessly motivated
>>in
>>agitating against Jawara on such social justice issues like political
>>liberty
>>and socio-economic equality for all Gambians, then in the AFPRC/APRC, they
>>have such themes in plenitude. Whichever you feel like slicing the
>>AFPRC/APRC
>>cake, themes of nefarious politics and injustices are there for you to
>>choose
>>to your filling. Many a commentator - and i mean commentators who never
>>hesitated to denounce Jawara - were in agreement that Jammeh makes Jawara
>>look saintly. More to the point, with Jammeh, it ought to be personal:
>>Jammeh
>>has more than a year ago illegally incarcerated a prominent founding
>>member
>>of MOJAG - Dumo Sarho. With Jammeh, MOJAG ought to have gone into the
>>trenches. The man literally provides them with all the ammunition needed
>>for
>>political mutiny. Yet, to date, i have as of yet to see, read, hear or
>>hear
>>of through third parties MOJAG unequivocally denouncing Jammeh along the
>>same
>>lines as they did with Jawara. I'm all ears.
>>
>>Instead, what we have now from MOJAG is a treacherous, disreputable and
>>deplorable trend that will in all essence end up denigrating any sense of
>>achievement MOJAG may lay claims to. From a very prominent MOJAG activist
>>-
>>Sarjo Jallow - serving the brutal regime that illegally continues to
>>incarcerate a former comrade to a splinter group from MOJAG milking State
>>funds through the conduit of an NGO, remnants of whatever it is that is
>>left
>>of MOJAG are in cahoots with the APRC. How did we figure all this out? Now
>>during the weekend, i had a very interesting conversation with a source -
>>who
>>happens to know very well some of these MOJAG operatives and what they are
>>up
>>to in Banjul these days. The unimpeachable source put it to me that not
>>only
>>do we have a prominent MOJAG operative serving in Jammeh's gov't but in
>>fact
>>a splinter group formed around Ousman Manjang is very much informally
>>involved with the APRC and Jallow is their contact man. How does it all
>>work
>>out? According to my source, Manjang operates an NGO call GAMSEM which
>>supposedly helps out the unemployed young; and Sarjo Jallow sits on the
>>board
>>of this outfit. When the NGO runs out of cash or needs new contracts to be
>>in
>>business, Sarjo uses his position of influence as a Secretary of State to
>>hand Manjang gov't contracts and so the NGO becomes the trough for
>>cementing
>>the old revolutionary network. And so the vicious circle goes ... More to
>>the
>>point, another source of mine once told me that whatever it is that Sarjo
>>is
>>up to within the APRC, he is in it with Manjang: on several occasions, he
>>chanced upon Manjang at Sarjo's office looking for gov't contracts to fill
>>the trough. All of which should help explain why a year ago - together
>>with
>>my compatriots, Brothers Saul Khan and Kebba Dampha - i was not able to
>>make
>>Manjang denounce Sarjo's involvement with the APRC. What i didn't know
>>then,
>>of course, was that Sarjo's involvement with the APRC is, in extension,
>>Manjang and his splinter MOJAG group's involvement with the APRC.
>>
>>This is not the end of the story. As my source puts it to me again,
>>Manjang
>>and his group - like many anti- Jawara/PPP fanatics - have taken up a more
>>unbecoming and disreputable position vis-a-vis the current political
>>atmosphere. My source tells me that members of MOJAG or whatever is left
>>of
>>it - especially the wing of it that aligns with Manjang and his Marxism -
>>is
>>arguing that in this presidential election, whatever keeps Jawara out is
>>better than what brings him back. Here they are merely saying that the
>>anti-
>>Jawara votes are best served by going to the candidate and or party with
>>the
>>clout to win the elections and resolutely opposed to a Jawara come-back -
>>as
>>it happens, the APRC. A while ago, my able compatriot, the indefatigible
>>Kebba Dampha, warned of a mentality which gives succour to the corrupt
>>dictatorship: the "we hate Jawara more" mentality, as he put it then. Now
>>more than ever this disease is everywhere: from inside the Gambia to
>>Gambia-L, this nonsense is the genesis of the current anti- Jawara
>>hysteria.
>>
>>The question becomes relevant: is MOJAG - or whatever it is that is left
>>of
>>it - in cahoots with the murderous and corrupt fascist APRC? Recent events
>>suggest that there indeed exist a very disreputable relationship between
>>certain influential MOJAG operatives and the APRC that is deeply
>>unsettling
>>and ambivalent. Whatever our hesitation to denounce everything MOJAG stood
>>or
>>fought, there is no doubt in the minds of many decent Gambians that MOJAG
>>-
>>or whatever it is that is left of it that aligns with Ousman Manjang and
>>Sarjo Jallow - is a disreputable force; whose integrity has been left in
>>tatters by their association with the APRC. In this list of dishonoured
>>political forces, they've joined their parallel cousins - the PDOIS.
>>
>>Hamjatta Kanteh
>>
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