"This guy, Haruna Darboe must be fithy rich to have all this time for  long 
conversations" Bailo.
 
Haruna Darbo holds conversation with other humans. If Haruna Darbo is  filthy 
rich, it goes without saying that his conversing coleagues are also  filthy 
rich.
It appears that one of those conversing coleagues is Bailo Jallow. The rest  
are Musa Jeng, and Pa Pierre.
 
PDOIS churns out volumes of Foroyaa rambling about both the significant and  
insignificant. Foroyaa has even acquired a printing press to complete this  
oppulent endeavour. Going by your fear, PDOIS and Foroyaa therefore are likely  
filthy-rich. Yet, and among the pages of banter, they feign poverty and  
encourage listless conversation. They always come back to acknowledge the  obvious 
in the constitution. They seek congregations and trade other  considerations 
for votes. They shun other filthy-rich folk in public and  offer retrogressive 
governance to impoverish yet other citizens so they can  continue to 
accumulate more riches to purvey yet more consideration in votes for  retrenchment of 
nil. Is this what guided your qualification of Haruna as  filthy-rich. I 
remmembered in Russia, the affluent oligarchs of the communist  party engaged in a 
relentless campaign of labelling virulent opponents as  Filthy-rich in order to 
quiet those voices in their quest to amass more  riches.
 
Now then we ask ourselves; If time for prodigious conversation is an  
indication of filth in riches, might it be true that more PDOIS diehards are  filthy 
rich than the singular Haruna. Therefore, by mere averages, PDOIS has  
actuarial advantage in filthy-rich folk. Were riches filthy, there is enormous  
concern at PDOIS and Foroyaa then for filth. 
 
Let us say it is true that Haruna is filthy rich. Haruna shares that filth  
with PDOIS among others. PDOIS has not refused the filthy rich donations of  
Haruna nor have they declined the filthy rich donations of their multitude  
adherents and congregants. They just don't appreciate it in public because they  
say it doesn't look good appreciating the value of other citizens when the  
value of PDOIS should be seen to be paramount. I will come back to this flawed  
nonesense they peddle to continue to stunt their own growth later Bailo.  
But(kids don't try this at home) of your more handsome riches Bailo, have  you 
shared some of it with PDOIS and Foroyaa and others less so? And if you  meant 
scope by filthy-rich, Would it not be wise to augment the scope of your  own 
riches were that your pursuit rather than envy another who may seem to you  to be 
richer? I presume if you thought I was as rich as you are, you probably  would 
look for other reason for the mirage of enormous time in conversation for  
nought. Besides, I think you will agree that it is anathema for Haruna to engage 
 in conversation for nought; CFN, and FYI, Father Mose is admittedly richer 
than  Haruna. Calling riches filth is both sophomoric and inconsiderate and 
borders on  dishonest. And if it occupies your considerations so, you will be 
better off a  workman than a hoarder of consumer goods. That reduces wealth and 
riches.  It forces you to consume more than you need were the famine you  
anticipate, not to come to pass. Hoarding is generally a bad economic  activity 
because it is a cowardly un-economic activity that accelerates  the artificial 
rise in commodity prices and quickens market malaise. It  never has a positive 
or benign affect on economic health. It is  usually the domain of socialists 
and pretend-communists. 
 
"when he could have cut the crap short with acknowlegement of the  obvious." 
Bailo.
 
This is not fair Bailo. The reason is that If you look at the conversations  
Haruna was engaged in with Pa Pierre, Bailo, and Father Mose timidly, it was a 
 discernment in what our friend Pa Pierre submits. An effort to understand 
the  man Pa Pierre. PP had combed through prior conversations of Haruna where  
PDOIS, Halifa, Sam, and or Sidia were mentioned. PP conjured condemnation of  
these entities by Haruna only to share that Haruna and other fellow  citizens 
have the onus of responsibility to support PDOIS' activities. The  mention of 
Foroyaa is a red-herring. And because Pa Pierre is a good  representative of 
PDOIS diehards we have all heard narrate their Politburo  experiences and 
attempt to bind all fellow citizens in contract of votes for  PDOIS in exchange for 
their good and "self-less" work. During those  conversations, you had 3 
disciples and Haruna. The scope of Haruna's time  therefore was a mirage afforded by 
the ratio 3:1 and the value and power of  my counsel to the trio. It revealed 
their own shortcomings and the  deficit in their theories and dispositions 
which renders them detrimental to the  overall health of PDOIS and Foroyaa. I 
believe it was this resultant of net  conversation that upset you enough to 
characterise Haruna as possibly  filthy-rich when you and or Pa Pierre  probably 
yielded value from  those filthy riches through PDOIS and Politburo services to 
 disciples. 
Acknowledgement of the obvious generally issues from comprehension,  
discourse, and discernments. Bailo and other PDOIS diehards and Foroyaa all  have the 
trademark of convoluted logic and unintelligible speech. At the  tail-end of 
their stories, they offer the constitution as summary. The  obvious. During 
conversations, they engage in persuading diehards to  consider prior favours 
accorded the latter in consideration for worship and  discipleship. The disciples 
then pick up from where Foroyaa leaves off to  propagate victimhood and the 
quid-pro-quo mentality. They hide their  failure behind Foroyaa's propaganda to 
relieve themselves of personal  accountabilities. Foroyaa affords the 
disciples self-interviews and  soliloquies loaded with conflicts of interest and 
sketchy counsel. It is evident  that Foroyaa, in its entirety, is ONE BIG CONFLICT 
OF INTEREST in fraudulent  agency. Do you not agree Bailo???
 
Perplexing?!!! Bailo.
 
Indeed. It is perplexing. But not terribly complicated. Just reflect a  bit.

"Good luck!" Bailo.
 
Thanx Bailo. Did you see how John Edwards did in South Carolina? He won his  
native county and a few others to yield him 18% of the democratic vote in SC.  
There is something you Obama-heads have not factored in the arsenine numbers 
he  is polling. It will come back to haunt you if OBAMA is the Democratic 
nominee,  which I know will not happen. I wish you good luck in your endeavours 
Bailo and  I look forward to hearing you more often. Masoud. MQJGDT. Darbo. Al  
Khairawan.


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My good friend Pa Pierre,

I know you're a good and innocent man but I did  not know you will wear the 
PDOIS heart on your sleeve. I want you to take a  deep breath and let your 
mind 
wander a bit. I know that is anathema to PDOIS  dogma, but just try it. 
Please. I think you have too terribly insulated your  imagination and 
creativity to 
a point that like PDOIS, you fail to grow with  nature.

"Dear Haruna, I have stated in the past that you belong to fine  calibre of 
inellectuals. A trait that stands out among your other attributes  is how you 
employ the Socrates techniques of using opponents statements to  shackle them 
intellectually. I do not wish to pick a debate with you;  Needless to say, do 
not bother to shackle me." PP

Thank you Pa  Pierre, you're too kind. You belong to your own unique calibre 
of  intellectuals too you know. We only diffre in calibres and circumstance 
but  intellectual nonetheless. I appreciate the kind words and I promise you 
my  
engagements with you can only be civil. Because you have demonstrated  
immense 
restraint even though I may have caused you enormous pain by seeming  not to 
like PDOIS or Halifa, or Sam, or Sidia. I think that's a big stretch  but 
I'll 
pretend you're right. I don't know about PDOIS, but the gentlemen  can 
discern if I dislike them or not.

"I have a few observasions and  objections to unfold on your table. PDOIS, or 
Halifa, Sam and Sedia, are not  wolfs in sheep clothings." PP.

Pa Pierre, what brings you to such query?  I agree with you that these fine 
and handsome gentlemen are indeed genuine  and sincere to the core of their 
souls. They are and have always been  generous also. So I wonder why you 
bring 
yourself to consider "are not  wolves in sheep's clothing"? 

"They are not angels chanting satanic  pranks either." PP

OK. From the two statements I believe you share with  us that they are 
humans, you just can't qualify their characters. Fair  enough.

"They are men like you and i. Men who deliberately chose to lead  a livestyle 
less confortable than i guess yours and mine." PP

I would  be more comfortable if you were to speak for yourself Pa Pierre. The 
reason  is because I don't compare very well to others.

"In view of this you may  use your own yardstick to determind where u want to 
place them." PP

I  see where the problem lies. You probably think I am trying to place 
Halifa,  Sam, and Sidia somewhere. I was not, and I am not. I am looking at 
the trio  
through the prism of PDOIS, what they wish to offer me and my fellow  
citizens. That's all. I couldn't care less where they are placed besides  
PDOIS.

"In Gambia, i had the rare opportunity to interact with many  personalities 
of high esteem, but almost in all cases, i come out of the  experience with a 
disappointing impressions. Every department i walk into,  welcomes me with 
that 
ugly vice of corruption. Nawec, Gptc, Gamworks,  Customs, portauthority, 
Gcaa, Gamtel, Police, etc." PP

Did you agree  to be welcomed by their enticements??? That is the question.

"All the  places i names, i can mention an incident of corruption i was 
forced to be  part of or some how know about it by virture of my position at 
the 
time in  question." PP

Wait a minute. How do folk force you into incidents of  corruption Pa Pierre? 
I don't get it. You see, and being a man of the cloth  as you are may agree 
with me, One is corrupt only to the extent of his or  her pre-disposition. 
Think about it a little bit Pa Pierre. I do not believe  you when you tell me 
you 
were ever forced into corruption or had to live  with it even if your life 
hung in the balance. That is why I cautioned you  that I don't compare well 
with 
men in your sample.

"On the other  hand, what i saw when i walk into PDOIS political Bereau is 
humanity at its  best." PP.

Pa Pierre, Pa Pierre, Pa Pierre. There you go too. Just like  Father Mose. So 
you were forced into corruption and looked the other way  when your fellow 
citizens corrupted themselves. You did not go to Church or  the mosque to 
seek 
salvation and forgiveness and you did not ask those you  defrauded to forgive 
you, but you seek refuge at PDOIS' politburo. What do  you think is wrong 
with 
that picture father????? For one, I think the Lord  advises that we may not 
seek nor may be receive salvation from the good that  others do or from their 
salvations. He, the Lord, most merciful, will save  us when we seek it from 
him 
on condition that we repent and train on  due-diligence and circumspect from 
thence onward. Pray tell, why do you  compare your experiences at the PDOIS 
politburo to an experience you helped  create and propagate? Do you not know 
that 
if you pluck Sidia, Sam, or  Halifa out of the politburo and place them in 
the "compromising" situations  you had been under when you were corrupted 
under 
duress, that the trio will  have to rely on their own characters and 
pre-dispositions to counter the  temptations you yielded to??? What I share 
with you my 
good brother, is that  when you compare an organisation of several 
individuals (PDOIS politburo is  actually more than Halifa, Sam, and Sidia, 
why you 
honed in on those three  is bewildering) to just you, you have already 
self-imposed a disadvantage  which when considered in relation to your 
questionable 
stamina, may lead to  a victim and saviour pre-disposition. This was done 
just 
before your first  step into the politburo. What it did to you for eternity, 
was 
that it  relieved you of your own responsibility toward your fellow citizen 
and 
the  Lord, and it supplanted your belief in your own possibilities and 
potential  with the potential and possibilities of a larger group of your 
fellow  
citizens and so you wouldn't have to worry about personal accountabilities  
and 
such. This is very fundamental and I encourage you to think of it a bit  
further.

"their Dedication, Devotion and Determination to Duty is  second to none in 
the entire Gambia." PP

These are the pronouncements  it leads you to make. Here, you share your 
impressions of the Politburo,  Halifa, Sam, and Sidia, in relation to your 
singular failures, and unawares,  place the onus of accountability on the 
shoulders 
of these good people. That  is exactly why you have the mirage in your mind, 
that Haruna does not like  Halifa, Sam, or Sidia. Lets not get overly 
sentimental here. I happen to  have higher admiration for Halifa, Sam, and 
Sidia, than 
you may ever conjure  much less have for these individuals. The difference is 
that I don't place  the burdens of my personal ware on the shoulders of these 
fellow citizens  even though they are willing and able to shoulder those 
burdens for me. You  see, what I think is that people who look to these three 
people 
for  salvation are themselves suspect and listless. It is highly unfair to  
Halifa, Sam, and Sidia.

"If every Gambian sense of responsibility is  close to what i see at the 
PDOIS political Bereau," PP.

I dare say Pa  Pierre that you have a limited scope of Gambian experiences. 
What you saw at  the Politburo was less than 1% of Gambians. You must believe 
that had you  experienced many more Gambians, you may appreciate them better. 
And try to  divorce your personal shortcomings from your expectations of them.

"we  would have made a superb achievement of our goals as a nation." PP

This  is non-sequitur. The politburo works everyday to achieve her goals. If 
Pa  Pierre also works everyday to achieve his goals, and were those goals  
national in theme and affect, then your statement immediately above will be  
good. 
For now it is non-sequitur and inconsequential as to  Gambia.

"While i was in High school, we would converge in serrekunda for  private 
studies with Sam Sarr of PDOIS. I would normally go to this class  with my 
Maths 
problems and i have never paid a dime for this bi-weekly  classes. Other 
students come with chemistry problems, others Physics and Sam  was amaising 
during 
those encounters. He walks into the class empty handed  and it was just 
amaising how he was solving problems he has not had time to  rehease. Halifa, 
i bet 
you my brother, you probably do not want me to go  through what u and i 
already 
know. Sidia, with whom i had little or no  interaction, except to say the 
Arabic version of Foroyaa newspaper published  in the 90s was probably his 
translations. I was buying the arabic version  regularly for my Mandinka 
neighbor." 
PP.

I am pleased you recognized  Sam to be intelligent and generous. I had known 
that sooner than you. You  guys like telling these mushy stories Pa Pierre. 
Do 
you not think that  because you had pre-conditioned your mind to seek 
salvation in the  politburo, that these personal experiences take on more 
spiritual 
and  ecumenical fervour??

"Haruna, when u try to draw a parallel between  respect for personalities of 
PDOIS and the votes they gain at election as  your bases of condemning 
Halifa, 
then it will be tantamount to employing the  mockery tactic used by one of 
the 
robbers on the cross with Jesus Christ;"  PP.

Wait just a minute Pa Pierre. With all due respect I think you are  
mis-informed here. I want to remind you that I had shared John Edwards'  
value with my 
coleagues here, and out of left field comes Jengfann telling  me that the 4% 
John polled in Nevada would mean that his coffin is nailed  shut. So I shared 
that for Jengfann, a PDOIS diehard, a party which polls  significantly less 
than 4% in Gambia National elections and even local  county elections, to be 
disdainful of John Edwards, an honourable gentleman  dispised for his 
strength to 
tell the truth and stick with it regardless of  fame or fortune, a character 
trait that PDOIS itself preaches to you people  if you'll ever listen to what 
PDOIS is sharing with you, to proclaim the  death of John Edwards from that 
4% 
gain in Nevada, which John is proud and  appreciative of, means that you 
PDOIS 
diehards either do not understand what  PDOIS really stands for, shares with 
you and your fellow citizens, or that  you are patently dishonest and you are 
in PDOIS for your selfish interests.  Halifa, Sam, and Sidia, do not have 
anything to do with your  malcomprehensions and your ulterior motives. The 
only 
thing is that you will  not help PDOIS as party this way. You will only keep 
worshipping men who do  not wish for your worship, and PDOIS as a party will 
never be able to grow,  overburdened by such considerations. Jesus has 
nothing to 
do with this, and  leave the man outta this.

"That if jesus was really the son of God why  does he had to share the same 
fate as they the robbers." PP

Pa Pierre  ifanang ikebaayata nying yele. Just like Suntou, I don't think you 
ought to  be proseletising here. Do I look like I care if Jesus was the son 
of God or  not? That is only for Jesus and God's consideration. All I know is 
I,  Haruna, am a son of God. Just like many of my fellow humans and citizens 
are  children of God. It is what you do that qualifies your life than mere 
love  
of your father.

"That is a fallacy which challenges the notion that;  if PDOIS was a fine 
calibre of Men the onus is on it to attract a large  following." PP

No Pa Pierre, you got it upside down, inside out. After  Suntou shared with 
us that the people of Wulli practically worship the  ground that the 
Afro-toting-wing of PDOIS walks on, The question became,  "Might PDOIS not 
therefore do 
better in the polls when the apostles share a  more common message"? You are 
straying too far into Jesus to appreciate  PDOIS Pa Pierre. I encourage you 
to 
expand your horizon to better receive  PDOIS' message.

"How can we blame God for making hell gate larger then  Heaven gate." PP.

Just to play along with you Pa Pierrre, who told you  Hell's gate is larger 
than that of the heavens?

"In short, God is  good, but it is our responsibility to draw close to god by 
fulfilling his  commandments and not the other way round." PP.

You are very funny. Just  like Suntou. You know the truth and you come to it 
after each tour in  fanciful cavortin, but then you stray from it again at 
the 
beginning of each  tour out.

"Pdois has demonstrated with their little resources that they  are good It is 
therefore our responsibility to vote for them and not their  responsibility 
sir." PP.

What????? Pa Pierre come on men. I would  think that if PDOIS has 
demonstrated to you that they are good with their  little resources, you 
ought to give 
more resources. You know they send out  pleas to their congregation for more 
resources. I hope you afford them more  resources so they can continue to be 
and 
do more good. Why does that  translate into a responsibility for other to 
vote 
them into office. Are you  not concerned that PDOIS will leave a vacuum in 
Good-doing when they now  lead a nation? Besides, I think you benefitted from 
PDOIS politburo good  that is the only reason why you owe an obligation to 
them 
so more people can  benefit from their good. I like the Catholic Relief 
Service's work and the  Jammeh Foundation's work, but you don't see me 
placing a 
responsibility on  myself to vote them into leadership office. I use their 
good-doing as  inspiration to do good also. That is what they love more than 
votes. 
You get  it Pa Pierre. The Politburo has a fundamental discernment question 
to  
answer. Will we continue to do good selfless work as a charity or should we  
requisition votes for PDOIS in exchange for our good-doing?????????????????  
That is the existential question. Pa Pierre, I don't wanna hear any u' this  
nonesense about good quid for vote quos. You remmember you shared that you  
were 
forced to be corrupt once. Well now everybody knows PDOIS is not  forcing you 
to do anything. I'm just saying.

"I know you will be  surprise that i had all this to say today." PP.

No Pa Pierre, I wasn't  surprised. I knew it all along. ANd I can see you 
coming 10 miles away.  Besides, it wasn't much you said. It just looked like 
it 
for the Jesus and  church stories and your experience at the politburo.

"I am using this  opportunity to respond to several of your previous postings 
which have been  consistent in their condemnation of Halifa and PDOIS." PP.

I recognised  that. The only thing is the comprehension of those posts is 
deficient. And  you offer no context. Dishonest. For example, you could at 
least 
share one  post where I condemned either PDOIS or Halifa, or both. That will 
have been  more interesting.

Pa Pierre, don't disappoint me and our other coleagues  here. I thought you 
were diligent and reasonable. Don't give me doubts. Just  let me love you 
men. 
Don't mess it up men.

A tout a l'heure. Haroun.  Al Khairawan. MQJDT. Darbo




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--- [log in to unmask]  wrote:

From: Haruna Darbo 
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject:  Re: Halifa Sallah is a handsome man /
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:34:00  EST


My friend Bailo, good to hear you again. But how come all you  Obama heads 
got your heads buried in cloud-cuchoo sand?? And you seem so  intelligent!!!!

"Haruna, My supposition is that Halifa doesn't want to  show off his 

handsomeness." Bailo.

You mean "DID NOT" all those  years. Why now though? Do you suppose if he 
really showed his true feelings,  maybe PDOIS' fortunes would look up as far 
as 
votes are concerned? The  wulli people worshipping Afros according to our 
friend Suntou is an  aberration but just suppose PDOIS folk began to be 
genuine 
Gambians, I  mean one of us, do you suppose we will receive them as equals? 
Or 
are  they really our equals??? So many questions, so little time.

"Your pal,  John Edwards is a handsome man too." Bailo.

Alright what's the catch?? I  know you too well Bailo. You cannot say 
unequivocally that John Edwards is  handsome and the best man for President 
of these 
Unanted Istates without  following it with a bombshell. SO what's the catch?

"I also think that  John would make an excellent choice as Obama's 
running-mate should the  latter be able to ride pass the Clintons' quest for 
a third 
term at the  White House." Bailo.

I knew it. You got this backwords my dear. OBAMA  will make a fair running 
mate for John Edwards. John Edwards will make a  great running mate for 
Hillary 
Clinton if Black folk can get past their  day-dreamings. Do you know who 
will 
run an OBAMA white-house??? Its time  y'all wake up and smell the coffee 
before its too late. If OBAMA becomes  president at this time, blacks will 
live to 
regret it for their entire  life. If they think that life is sorry now, they 
aint seen nuttin yet. The  days of settin on your fanny and expecting a 
knight 
in shining armour to  rid you of your misery is OVER.

"Bill and Hilary seem so desperate to get  back." Bailo.

Bailo, ifanang. Ikeebaayaatale. I beg of you, do not yield  to listless 
gossip and gaucherie. Ginny is crazy's all I can say. Can you  believe 
someone 
hating and slandering admittendly without reason? If  that ain't crazy, I 
don't 
know what is.

"I hope America is at  least ready for a mixed raced President in the White 
House. Amen! I have a  dream!" Bailo.

You guys still don't get it. America, like the UK, France,  Italy, Sweden, 
Denmark, Norway, and Australia etcetera, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN  READY FOR 
MIXED-RACE, 
STRAIGHT-RACE, SKEWED-RACE candidates. For  AMERICA, that just ain't BARACK 
OBAMA at this time. God I hope you guys  don't let sentimentalism and 
untethered and listless hope confound you. At  least not my Bailo and 
Moribolong. I may 
have lost Mr. Jobarteh already,  but I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose you 
and 
Ousman. 

Please  reconsider your unconditional attachment to Barack for President of 
America.  If you don't like John Edwards, please support Hillary Clinton. 
Barack will  make a great Secretary of State in either an Edwards or a 
Clinton  
Presidency. Then in 2012, he will have been ready to be President and all  
of us, 
including Edwards and CLinton will make sure he is President.  Don't go 
saying 
that I think Barack needs more experience. NO THAT IS  NOT what I'm saying 
and frankly I think Barack has enough experience to be  President somewhere. 
Just not America. Barack will only be an effective  President of America in 
a 
more benign atmosphere. Not Now. We got a  lotta work to do in America to 
right 
the sails after my friend W leaves  office. Barack is not suitable for those 
challenges. One reason is he does  have some conflicts of interest that will 
malign his foreign policy. Two is  he lives in fantasy land about bringing 
independents and republicans to join  democrats and move the country 
forward. Just 
ask yourself, if  independents, republicans, and democrats were to join 
together, would his  administration be needed to do anything??? That is the 
far side 
of this  fairy tale that our other friend Bill Clinton talks about. In my 
eyes, Duval  Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts will have gotten my vote 
were he 
to  run for President at any time. I know he supports Barack. He has a 
different  reason for doing that. Bailo, I don't want to go on and on for 
God knows I  
want Barack to get as many black votes as he could, but you guys  
castigating 
the Clintons and every body else for your support of Barack  is detrimental 
to 
Barack himself. Don't get carried away by Ginny. You  don't know Ginny's 
politique. Even she doesn't know her own politique quite  well. No comment 
on 
Maria Del Sol. She will deal with her own unique  deamons. And tell joe to 
friggin 
settle down. Anytime he opens his big  mouth, you think the skies are 
falling 
and life's over. I don't know  about you Bailo, but I intend to live for 
another year. I must say though  that I agree with him this time about giving 

idiots a pass. He's just  too nervous for my sanity. He's the fear-monger 
Barack 
keeps talking  about. And of course my other friend John McCain. I didn't 
even 
know  that McCain cannot raise his two hands past his head. I always thought  

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