"Dr Jaiteh and Haruna
What a good comment. For Haruna please don't waste your time about
contacting Yahya Jammeh." Karim.
Hi Karim. I am disappointed that you think my efforts to be a waste of time.
I hope I can persuade you otherwise.
"I disagree with you that Jammeh did some good but can you weight against
evil?" Karim.
I think you mean to say that you do not disagree that Yahya did some good.
Your contention is that whatever good he did is overwhelmed by the perceived
evil did. I have thought so for a long time and some fellow citizens have
tried to convince me so. I embarked on a journey of discernemnts and I have come
to realize that most of the evil assigned to Yahya are indeed perceptions. I
shall share more with you in due course. There are as many fellow citizens
informing me about the evil as there are fellow citizens informing me of the
good and refuting the evil. In either case, it would be wise I think to commend
Yahya for the good that he does and encourage him to do more good. As to the
evil, just as the good, it is impossible to undo them whether or not Yahya
is in fact to blame for them. In thatregard therefore, the extent of the
perception that he is to blame is what he can apologise for and I hope I can
convince him to apologise without prejudice.
"I don't think you are compromising you principle but every decent citizens
who is aware of the demage this
regime have effect on our people should isolate them." Karim.
Far from it Baby boy. I understand your impression that Yahya effected
damage on our people, and that your remedy is to isolate him. The way I look at it
is that if you agree Yahya did some good and that you have the perception
that he did some evil and that the evil overwhelms the good, that Yahya
admittedly then is capable of doing both good and evil like you and I. Since you can
ascertain the good he did and continues to do, it would seem to me prudent
to encourage that. When you qualify the evil he does or did, it will be
equally wise to discourage that and guide him in propriety. I have long realised
that insolence and fighting words at a President is not as valuable as
judicious consideration. Afterall, there are equal perceptions on both sides as to
the evil he does.
"They can use your ideas without acknowledgement" Karim.
I understand how you feel. Consider that I offer the ideas for Gambia and
Yahya as conduit. In effect therefore it will be an honour if Yahya should use
them, with or without acknowledgement. Acknowledgement is for the user not
the giver of ideas. I understand your frustration. I will share a story with
you at the end of this conversation.
"and abuse you in the end." Karim.
Again I understand your perception of Yahya's dispensation. It is easy to
have this dispensation because my own friends Jatta, Jarjue, Janneh, Ndobin,
Johnson, ad-infinitum, haven't been treated exceptionally well by Yahya in my
opinion. However, Yahya has treated some others of my friends satisfactorily
and when they were satisfied, they had abandoned him unceremoniously. I have
remain sober in my assessments and whether or not Yahya abuses me in the end
not my purview. I am sure he knows the record of those who have set to abuse
me. And he uis capable of doing some good. At the end of the day, if you keep
Gambia in mind and you are sincere in that dispensation, abuse in that process
of your person becomes secondary and almost insignificant. It will be the
height of fatalism however if after recognizing the possibility of harm, you
dismiss it for idealism. What I train in is not idealism.
"Haruna has you stated this regime have no respect for highly trained
Gambian and damn what the so-called jealousy and moral adjudication coming from
Suntou." Karim.
I actually shared that highly trained Gambians are valuable and that Yahya
ought to take professionalism in them seriously. I must add also that he ought
to take unprofessionalism seriously only that Yahya should assign that
responsibility to another citizen, not himself. May I recognize that you and
Suntou could be soul brothers and that tempered discourse and recognition of the
possibility of disagreement is more valuable than heated antagonisms? I think
highly of the both of you.
"Sometimes we have seen jealousy in our country manifesting in tribal
dimension, educational achievement, material accumulation and access to
opportunities." Karim.
Indeed Karim. I agree with you. I guess we now have to identify the cause
and consider remedy of such. I am sure Yahya knows he would not be President for
ever and that as President, he will not wield unbridled authority over the
lives and fortunes of his fellow citizens for ever. Neither is he the only
culprit in the evils you mentioned. Go hither, do good work, and stay in touch.
"Your contribution to the thematic issue remind me about the research works
of Gambia's Dr Ebrima Sall of Council for Development of Economic and Social
Science Resaerch in Africa- about the state of academic and Intellectual
freedom in Africa. Brain drain in our continent is cause bad government, erosion
of human rights and lack of security for our continent's brain." Karim.
I am honoured that you consider me in such esteem company. And to the extent
Yahya plays any part bad governance, erosion of citizen and human rights,
and the lack of intellectual security, I aim to share alternate ideas with
Yahya.
Thank you sir and may Allah continue to bless you.
Haroun Masoud. MQDT Darbo. Al Mu'Umin.
Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Malanding,
I associate myself with your concerns and verily financial remuneration is
the single most important consideration given the suffocating poverty in
Gambia. Since Gambia has a long way to go even after Yahya to match the
financial
alternatives available to new graduates, I tend to share the belief, as you
indicated, that given a modicum of financial consideration, Life, Liberty,
and
the unfettered pursuit of happiness and choice will do wonders in a short
period of time. And those things cannot just be promised. They have to be
seen
to be givens. Professionalism must also be important to Yahya and it cannot
be
bought. I know Yahya has the capacity within him to make it happen. What a
great day that would be for Gambia.
In my own case for example, I was not lucky enough to be allocated a
scolarship. I wasn't even looking forward to it. I knew that whether I went
abroad
for further studies or not, a university degree or not, I could be a
valuable
citizen of Gambia and inmspire my fellow citizens. Luck would have it that I
was brought to the US by an acquaintance. All the while I was planning to
return to Gambia to give back even when Yahya first came. Meanwhile, and as
luck
would have it, the graduate school of engineering afforded me an opportunity
to engage in research for the Texas Oil company and Aramco even before I
completed my undergraduate studies. I was still looking forward to going to
Gambia to work for the country. Even though I was handsomely compensated by
these
two companies, I ended up giving most of it away to charity and endowment to
Morehouse school of Medicine. The ensuing events of wanton disappearances
and
idiots running around town with weapons they could hardly operate just
sapped the enthusiasm from me. When I was finally ready to go, but sans zeal
and
desire, (you know I can't keep quiet about important matters, hell I can't
even keep quiet for benign matters), I just fooled around and submitted a
proposal for a recurring annual contract for a multinational company and
when it
was accepted I wasn't even exopecting it. But the rest is history.
I am going to Gambia soon with the hope that I can share some ideas with
Yahya, without needing or requiring payment for it, just to lend me his
ears. I
think even Yahya is tired of doing wrong now, at least that's what mutual
friends are telling me. I think I can make a difference in his life FOR
GAMBIA
even if he has to take my life for it. It will have been well worth it. I
see
he is making some effort and I think he needs encouragement.
Thanx again for sharing. At the risk of going on and on about the fleeting
promise Yahya holds for Gambia, Haroun Masoud. MQDT. Al Mutawakkil. I just
have
to liqudate my assets or give them away first or perhaps exchange them for
value in Gambia. If anyone is interested in a beautiful home or two, one for
$340,000.00 the other for $200,000 and a few drilling rigs for a total of
$10,000,000.00, Lemme know quick. They are priced to sell. I will be in
South
Africa soon so giddy up folks.
In a message dated 10/30/2007 12:06:37 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
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Suntou,
I am sure you will agree with me that all things (job security, proper
pay and personal safety) equal, few Gambians including yourself would
want to migrate to the West. And who says that an educated Gambian
living in the Gambia is more valuable than that who lives in Japan/New
Zealand, Spain or USA? Bytheway, did you check to see what effect
recent changes at Gamtel had on this fellow's decision to migrate?
Suntou, it is not really difficult for one to figure out that many
Gambians (male, female, educated and illiterate) leave because the
Gambia failed to provide them Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of
Happiness (Thomas Jefferson). Trust me if the government of the Gambia
spends its time and energy to ensure these three things for the
citizens, few will think of migrating. And those already away will
surely return if things improve.
If we do the arithmetic - A university graduate (MSc engineer) at middle
level management position in the civil service earns about D15,000 per
month take home. This is less than 700 today's daollars. With
moonlighting (as building construction supervisor or running after
travel per diem) the guy is doomed to embezzle public funds just to put
food on the table.
The same person in the US could take home $5000 per month. This could
easily guarantee him a mortgage, a car loan, food at the table, a chance
to buy a government allocate plot of land in the Gambia for $12,000 and
a regular monthly stipen for family back home of $100(D2000 todays dollar).
May we should see government scholarship as investment on its citizens.
If the return on investment is higher when recipients work in Mexico
than in the Gambia, let it be. Bonding or other restrictions could only
worsen the situation.
Malanding Jaiteh
Suntou Touray wrote:
>some Gambian students are fortunate enough to gain scholarship into
>expensive overseas universities.this is a big opportunity for every hard
working
>son/daughter's of the gambia.but i have one major concern.the government
>spend thausands of dollars into this students .what policies do the
>government or regulators put in place to make sure the best is gain from
this
>students ? again ,what measures are in place to make sure some of this
>students return home after graduation ?
>
>i have seen quite a few government sponsored students who overstay or
>return home only to come back to europe or america in a very short period.
>
>i just heard of a case recently of a gamtel sponsored students who spend
>over three years doing his degree and then his masters .he return home four
>months ago . i heard he got a job in u.s and he is planning to travel to
america
>by next month.what a waste of public fund.on average a sponsored student
>spend 20000 dollars par year .how many civil servants can get their wages
>paid from that ? why are this people abandoning our country after the tax
>payers money has been spent on them ?
>who is to blame for this mess ? many have gone breifly to the government
>just to be seen and then disappear into either non-government organistion
or
>some other work places. what sort of bond do this people have to sign ? i
am
>not the least jealous of any one who went through a government scholarship
>program ,i only want appropraite repayment back to the gambian people.it
>doesn't make any one wiser to cheat our system.i may not aggree with
>government in place but if any one accept a scholarship from them ,then it
>only right you fulfil the terms of the aggrrement.
>
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