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Hallo Bass,


My name sounds Arabic as  I am mixed Sarahuleh and Arabic. My father was student at the al-Azhar in Cairo where he met my mum and.... I came out shouting.


I have reconnected to my roots in The Gambia and I feel more Gambian and more Sarahuleh than Arabic.


What Jaiteh said about the illegal migration is correct. It is a pressure valve. Migration is part of human nature and people will always go were they can secure their basic necessites ofl ife.


However, they should not forget contacting the Sarahulehs for "expert advice" on money-making. The Word JULA means "trader" in Sarahuels and is very old. A separate ethnic group called the JULA exists in Ivory Caost extenting the activites of the Sarahules as traders. Former Prime Minister Alhasan Ouattara is Jula.


The word JULA can also be found in Bambara/Bamana in Mali and is often use to describe the Sarahules who are also known as "Maraka" in Sierra Leone and Guinea


Politically speaking, the Sarahuleh are still not that active, except in Mali and Mauritania where they have political influence. In Niger the current President Tandja is Sarahule and the Senegasle PM Hadjibou Soumare is Sarahule.

CAN ANYONE NAME SOME GAMBIAN SARAHULEHS WHO ARE IN POLITICS OR ARE RISING POLITICAL STARS? I cannot go further with my resarch.

Peace


Emman
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-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:48:44 +0100
> Von: BASS DRAMMEH <[log in to unmask]>
> An: [log in to unmask]
> Betreff: Re: The road a showdown over illegal migration

> You know,in all fairness,it is not only the Tukolors that have refused to
> eat the Mono, but my own children have followed suit,one reason why I
> packed
> my bags and came to Sukuru Kunda,since no real sarahuleh can survive
> without
> their daily dose of this porridge.Now the transformed Tukulors and the
> half-Sarahuleh, half Americans can eat their pop tarts in faraway
> Babylon,and we the blue blood Sarahulehs can eat our monos in Sukuru
> Kunda.
> 
> On a different note,I am a little bit confused about Emman.First, his name
> and surname sound more Saudi than Gambian.Then came his first response
> which
> seemed to indicate that he was a mankanaso person.And now this second
> response of his insinuates that he is a member of my clan.Am baffled! Can
> he
> tell me where he really belongs.Because I know for a fact that if you
> deduct
> the mankanaso contents from both Mr. Samateh and Dr. Jaiteh the sum will
> be
> naught.But am not so sure the same equation applies to Emman Sallam.
> 
> Regards Basss
> 
> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/18/07, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Bass,
> > I seriously wanted to ignore you,it seems you are on a mission: I swear
> I
> > know that it`s +been a long time since you last tackle "mono" and I am
> just
> > being told that the TOkolor`s are never known to like "Mono". Keep this
> in
> > mind,we are too advance to venture through the Anlantic,we have enough
> bank
> > statements in circulation to make a direct journey. Even you your self
> know
> > how we make our monies.......through pure sweat,picking up potatoes or
> > tomatos; oh your clansmen,just forget their trade Mark...
> > for  freedom
> > saiks> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:00:20 +0100> From: [log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: The road a showdown over illegal migration> To:
> > [log in to unmask]> > I think I owe it to my Sarahuleh clansmen
> > not to allow the mankasoo people> have the last word on this important
> > subject.Despite Mr.Samateh's breast> beating triumphalism,Mr Emmams data
> > supporting his claim have less than one> leg to stand on.Anybody who has
> > been watching Gambia Tv.knows that the> totality of boat people
> > intercepted by agents of the Gambia Police Force> over recent months
> hail
> > not from the Alongharis of the Gambia ,but Mankanaso> capitals like
> Alkali
> > Kunda, Jarjari, Sali Kenyeh and the like.Even more> damning than that,
> > eighty percent of the twenty-thousand Gambians resident> in Spain are
> > Badibunkas.That is an outrageous disproportion,considering the> fact
> that
> > their share of the Gambia population is well below ten>
> percent.SoEmmamsattempt to pin this one on the Sarahulehs is doomed> to failure.> > Regards
> > Basss> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > On 8/17/07, samateh saikou <
> > [log in to unmask]> wrote:> >> > Emman,> > Who are you ? I just did
> not
> > want to talk,waiting for great people like> > you to tell Bass the real
> > thing.Thanks for doing so.> > For Freedom> > Saiks> Date: Fri, 17 Aug
> 2007
> > 00:00:09 +0200> From: [log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: The road a showdown
> > over illegal migration> To:> > [log in to unmask]> > Hello Bass
> > Drammeh,> > Thanks, I just to> > help add power to your this point:> > >
> > "Badibunka discovery has made such a> > splash and impact in the Gambia
> > that> even the proverbial money mongers of> > the Gambia,the Sarrahulehs
> > have started contemplating abandoning their> > traditional diamond
> > speculatiing adventures in Congo and Angola for the> > Spanish
> bandwagon.">
> > > > Experices trallevers say that the proverbial money> > mogners of the
> > Gambia, the Sarahules, have bee in SPAIN since in the 1960s> > at the
> same
> > time they "conquered" France.> > > If you have time, you can> > visit
> the
> > town of Gambisarra, Allunhari, Garawol, Sabi, Kumbeja, etc to see> > the
> > bombastic villas!> > > So their Baddibunak "cousins" are following
> their> >
> > examples - 40 years later - not the other way round.> > Emman Salaam> >
> > >>
> > > -------- Original-Nachricht --------> Datum: Wed, 15 Aug 2007
> 11:26:17> >
> > +0100> Von: BASS DRAMMEH <[log in to unmask]>> An:> >
> > [log in to unmask]> Betreff: Re: The road a showdown over
> > illegal> > migration> > > The entire Badibou landscape has now been
> > profoundly> > transformed thanks to> > the Euro money transfers coming
> from
> > the Badibunka> > diaspora resident in> > the> > various Spanish
> > provinces.Most of the> > erstwhile Mankanaso farms> > in Badibou have
> now
> > given way to modern> > building complexes with most of> > the> > modern
> > amenities known in Badibou> > as Self Containoo, powered by solar> >
> panels
> > and made livable by the access> > to clean running water and stand and>
> >
> > ceiling fans.All of a sudden the> > Badibunkas have made a powerful> >
> > discovery!> > They have just discovered> > that in lieu of selling Fogga
> > Jays (used> > clothes)> > at the Sukuru Kunda> > market for donkey years
> > without making ends meet,they> > could just sell> > their stalls to the
> > Faanafaanas or Nigerians for sixty> > thousand> > Dalasis,pay the
> Spannish
> > middlemen for forty thousand,use the> > balance as> > pocket money
> whilst
> > trying to get work in> > Spain.Andnotwithstanding the> > occasional
> > tragedies and misshaps here> > and there,the> > Badibunka> > discovery
> has
> > made such a splash and impact in the Gambia that> > even the> >
> proverbial
> > money mongers of the Gambia,the Sarrahulehs have> > started> >> >
> > contemplating abandoning their traditional diamond speculatiing
> adventures>>
> > > > in Congo and Angola for the Spanish bandwagon.> > > > Anybody who
> knows>
> > > the strenght and intensity of this wave in the Gambia> > right now,
> knows>
> > > that not even a ten million Euro skill center is capable> > of
> stemming> >
> > either the wave or dampening the spirits or the NERVES, as it> > is> >>
> >
> > commoly known here.But that is not to say that we should not accept the>
> > >> > offer.Of course we should! We need that Skill Center regardless of
> > who> >> > gives> > it to us and what the conditions for constructing it
> > are.TheGambia> > government on its part will do some window dressing
> here
> > and> > there,if> > nothing else but to impress upon the spanish
> authorities
> > that it> > is doing> > something about the matter.That is how the Game
> is
> > played.> >> > > > The Badibunkas and their emulators,in the
> meantime,will
> > continue to> > devise> > more ingenius and dangerous ways of getting
> into
> > Barcelona and> > other> > Spanish> > cities.That wave will continue
> > unabated ,regardless of> > what the Gambian> > Government will do,until
> the
> > dangers and risks involved> > have reached a> > critical mass,or atleast
> the
> > Gambia public perception of> > those dangers> > reach> > that
> point.Shortof reaching that point,any> > attempts to stem the tide is> > doomed to
> > failure.And who said You Cannot> > Have Your Cake And Eat It At The> >
> > Same Time?!> > > > Regards Basss> > > >> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> >
> > >
> > > > > > > > On 8/14/07, Edie Sidibeh <> > [log in to unmask]>
> wrote:>
> > > >> > > As you rightfully protested,> > this is really a meaningful
> > analysis even> > > whereas, I am not good in> > numbers, I can
> understand
> > the simplicity of> > its> > > analysis. Then> > again, Dr. Jaiteh,
> orthodox
> > of Gambian believe also> > protested> > > the> > fact that, what is
> meant to
> > happen cannot be prevented, therefore> > those>> > > > who are meant to
> > brake the barrier and enter Spain, will or cannot be> >> > > compromised
> by
> > 1 million dalasis.> > >> > > However, Million Dalasi is a> > huge amount
> if
> > they spend it rightfully and> > > will benefit lots and lots> > of the
> > youths as well as the country to gain> > > skillful and meaningful> >
> > education regarding if coupled with better> > educator> > > in the said>
> >
> > Fields of studies. undeniably, Africa have placed herself in> > a> > >
> > Marcy> > situation in the eye of the west and therefore, before we open
> up>
> > > our> >> > > eyes we have to be cleaver in playing their games of
> politic
> > by> >> > accepting> > > their offers and put it in good use to benefit
> our
> > countries> > and the> > people.> > > I am well aware of the fact that I
> am a
> > dreamer but> > just a wisdom.> > however,> > > west are well aware of
> the
> > fact of> > corruption level in Africa and> > therefore> > > send
> billions of
> > dollars to> > Africa knowing quite well that they will not> > be> > >
> use to
> > their> > purposes but end up in their own banks to yet make addition> >
> >
> > profit on> > the same loan given to us just like our coffees and other>
> >
> > natural> > >> > resources.> > >> > > How many coffee factories are in
> the
> > west? and how many> > chocolate> > > factories? how many employees does
> > those factories employed?> > how much do> > > they get the raw materials
> and
> > how much do they sell the> > finish product> > back> > > to us?
> therefore
> > playing their game by taking> > their money for loan and> > put> > > it
> in
> > proper education and job creation> > for our people and later asked> >
> for>
> > > > dept cancellation will then be> > proper and profitable for our
> > continent I> > > assumed. I personally think,> > corruption and
> > mismanagement played a> > > significant part in our> > development. If
> this
> > was not the case, Africa by> > now> > > should be> > heaven on earth due
> to
> > the our rightful trillions of dollars> > pump> > > in> > from the west
> which
> > end up bach to where it came from just like our> > >> > product.> > >
> Edi> >
> > >> > > Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:>> > > > IThe
> > employment figures for the same group show only 454,682 (66%) do> >> >
> not>
> > > > know what the Daily Observer mean by illegal migration but> > >> >
> makes
> > me wonder what this showdown will bring. First, may I ask how many> >> >
> >
> > of the 20,000 "illegal migrants" in Spain are minors? and what is the> >
> >>
> > > breakdown of their educational status? Also would increase training
> of> >
> > >> > Gambians in agriculture, carpentry, fishinng, construction,
> > electricity> > >> > really curb this "illegal migration"? The 2003
> census
> > figures show of> > >> > the 689,201 Gambians aged 15 years and over,
> 272,762
> > (40%) had no> > >> > education, 52,517 (8%) no more than primary edu,
> 176930
> > (26%) some for> > >> > of secondary education, 13360 (under 2%) with
> > vocational training> > >> > including teachers, 2309 (3 tenths of 1%)
> with
> > undergrad education, 2357> >> > > (3 tenths of 1%) graduate education
> and
> > 1467 (2 tenths of 1%) post> > >> > graducate education. Please note that
> > about about 167499(23% ) claim not> >> > > to belong to any of the above
> > groups.> > >> > > It is interesting to note> > that only 6,133 Gambians
> > living in the Gambia> > > in 2003 reported having a> > university degree
> > (undergrad to Post grad).> > > You wonder how that figure> > compare to
> that
> > of all Gambian-born degree> > > holders? A database of> > health
> > professionals emigrating from Africa> > > (Michael Clemens and> >
> Gunilla
> > Pettersson 2006) showed that there are 46> > > (53%) Gambian-born> >
> > physicians (Doctors in medicine) liing in nine> > > countries abroad> >
> > compared to 40 living in the Gambia. The number of is> > > much higher
> with>
> > > practicing nurses with 282 living in nine countries> > > abroad
> compared
> > to> > 144 in the Gambia. It is interesting to note is that> > > none of
> > these were> > said to be living in Spain.> > >> > >> > > reported being
> > employed. Of these> > over 215,592 (47%) are crop producers> > >
> > agriculture, 63,978 (14%) in> > Service, Shop & Market Sales; 13% in> >
> >
> > crafts and related trade, 10%> > elementary occupation(whatever that
> is),> >
> > > 3% professionals, 6% clerks,> > technicials and associate
> professionals.>
> > > > With the government all but> > abandoned buying groundnuts, you
> wonder
> > how> > > many of the 215,592 would> > stay on the land. And if they do
> not
> > would be> > > re-trained under the new> > partnership to promote social
> and
> > professional> > > cohesion (whatever that> > is)?> > >> > > The truth
> is,
> > someone must be kidding to believe that a 1> > million Euro> > > skill
> > center will check this "illegal migration". The new> > partnership if> >
> >
> > anything is the latest in this global outsourcing> > project. In effect>
> > >
> > lets pay the Gambian government one million Euros to> > police our
> border> >
> > > for us. While the partnership may help Spain cater> > for her
> citizens,> >
> > > what does it leave the Gambian people? It would help> > to know that
> > about> > > 665,000 (48%) of the total population are between 10> > and
> 34
> > years old.> > > If the government is to succeed, it must present a> >
> > convincing case that> > > it is not in effect and agent of the Spanish>
> >
> > border police. And that it> > > as the people's representative is> >
> > representing their interest by> > > accepting 1 million Euro for closing
> > the> > border.> > >> > > Failure to present a convincing case could
> leave a
> > very> > significant> > > proportion of the population feeling deprived
> of
> > their only> > opportunity> > > to a better life. Like a desperate herd
> > breaking into a> > neigbor's> > > garden, it should not surprise us to
> see
> > desperate citizens> > doing> > > desperate things to survive.> > >> > >>
> > >
> > Malanding Jaiteh> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Gambia: Curbing
> Illegal
> > Migration> > >> > >> > >> > The Daily Observer (Banjul)> > >> > > 10
> August
> > 2007> > > Posted to the web> > 13 August 2007> > >> > > The Gambia and
> > Spain, following the June 2007 Joint> > Committee Plan,> > > agreed
> > yesterday to strengthen the partnership> > agreement in order to> > >
> check
> > illegal immigration of minors, and to> > promote the social and> > >
> > professional cohesion of this category.> > >> >> > > By financing 1M
> Euros
> > Skills Training Centre, where young Gambians will> >> > > receive and
> > venture into several activities (agriculture, carpentry,> > >> >
> fishing,
> > construction, electricity), it calls for the setting up of a> > >> >
> > permanent mechanism, aimed at curbing illegal immigration through> > >>
> >
> > prevention, social-pedagogical and formation measures.> > >> > > It> >
> > recommends also that when young Gambians are well-trained, they will> >
> >> >
> > notably be exposed to the dangers posed by illegal migration.> > >> >
> > Consequently, they would act legally to Spain or other places.> > >> > >
> As>
> > > the Gambian community in Spain already attained the level of 20,000> >
> >>
> > > migrants, the way forward lies on the necessity to move towards a
> real> >
> > >> > showdown over illegal migration.> > >> > > Even if the issue
> exposes a
> > deep> > and bitter rift within the public> > > opinion, there is a need
> to
> > sensitise> > people on the dangers relating to> > > illegal migration.>
> > >>
> > > >> > >> >> >
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