You are one angry person. I feel for you. Tribal politics should have no connection to
our politics. May God have mercy on you. I will continue to write and condemn fraud.
Naphiyo,
Comrade Jassey-Conteh
-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2006 9:45 AM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [>-<] SS Daffeh RESPONSE
>
>"Mr. Oursanou Darboe and Hamat Bah had every right to form a coalition."
>
>Then why are you bugging folks, just continue with your opportunism. Like I
>said, it is deja vous all over again for you. The same cult following you
>had with Sheriff Dibba to bolt and join the APRC, is the same nonsense
>you're trying to peddle here. Had Sheriff lobbied a post for you, you'd be
>in the click of Yaya, today, and you tried to mask it all with that "Olive
>Branch Sermon" of yours. Out West they have a name for that kind of
>behavior. It seems to me you can make a deal with the devil, if the
>opportunity presents itself. If Ousainou/Hamat has a right to form a
>coalition, what about NADD? The same person singing, let's come together,
>is the same person talking about NADD should join Ousainou and Hamat. Is
>this not that silly supremacist view that I have been talking about? When
>will it sink in you that we are not in 2001, much more the 60s? You can
>never see Gambia as long as you are fixated on tribe, and it is a sad state
>of affairs. However, a new Gambia will be born and it is not going to be
>out of a rotten foundation of a supremacist theory, but self determination.
>Gambians are going to determine their faith, not shallow interests. So, you
>can continue to hide behind the rights of Ousainou and Hamat, a pretext for
>other reasons. Please, stop sending me private messages, for me to call
>you. I have no interest in calling you, for I know your signature a long
>time ago. I am not a hypocrit.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
>>From: Jassey Conteh <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: Jassey Conteh <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: [>-<] SS Daffeh RESPONSE
>>Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:14:01 -0500
>>
>>Well, I guess we will all go down in defeat if we do not compromise. No
>>political system can claim to have unilateral policy that it can dictate to
>>the
>>electorate. We should be attentive and willing to reach out, despite our
>>differences.
>>
>>What is our objective? Our objective is for a yahya-less Gambia. Should
>>tribal
>>politics play a role in our desire for a democratic Gambia? Absolutely
>>not!
>>Should one be taken objectively or subjectively in his or her assertion of
>>inferencing tribal sentiment? Absolutely yes! While I condemn tribalism,
>>I will
>>not sit idle to allow someone to depict a certain tribe. Further, such
>>assertions
>>are contrary to the basic tendencies of a peaceful and democratic Gambia.
>>
>>In valuing objectivity and truth, should one support a candidate who bribes
>>a voter to vote for him in electing a presidential nominee? No! I state
>>categorically
>>that such an act is fraud, and that I will not support such person. I
>>believe fraud is
>>a reportable condition, and thus, has no materiality threshold.
>>
>>In the context of Gambian politics, we must speak with open minds. But in
>>doing
>>so, we should objectively state what is right and wrong. It is sad that
>>while we
>>continue to waste valuable time, Jammeh and his thugs are having a field
>>day.
>>Mr. Oursanou Darboe and Hamat Bah had every right to form a coalition.
>>
>>Naphiyo,
>>Comrade Jassey-Conteh
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
>> >Sent: Feb 15, 2006 10:38 AM
>> >To: [log in to unmask]
>> >Subject: Re: [>-<] SS Daffeh RESPONSE
>> >
>> >Saul, thanks for your wise counsel to those that care to listen.
>>However,
>> >one thing needs to be very very clear to the UDP and whom ever drives
>>their
>> >thinking. Gambia is owned by Gambians and folks will be damned, should
>>we
>> >allow another Dictator to arise from within us, when we are trying to get
>> >rid of one. This train is driven by Gambians and not some greedy bunch
>>that
>> >have managed to convince themselves that they are greater. This is not
>> >2001, much more the 60s, so they better take note. There is no
>>compromise
>> >to water down our aspirations. The spirit of the MOU is a Gambian
>>product
>> >and not even Jammeh can hedge it. So, we are always ready to defend the
>> >interest of Gambians over any self serving pirate's.
>> >
>> >Chi Jaama
>> >Joe
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >From: "Saul S Khan" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >Subject: Re: [>-<] SS Daffeh RESPONSE
>> >Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:17:40 -0500 (EST)
>> >>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "Saul S Khan"
>> >><[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Good morning Mr. Mballow,
>> >>
>> >>Sorry, I was just poking fun at you, because I think I know where the SS
>> >>Daffeh email comes from. But just to be sure; isn't the address "SS
>> >>[log in to unmask]"? Please confirm or deny this for me.
>> >>
>> >>Another thing Saihou - what is wrong with us starting a whole new
>>chapter
>> >>in our nation's life? After what our self-anointed Emperor has done, is
>>it
>> >>too much to ask that we all agree to SAFEGUARDS that would prevent
>>anyone
>> >>like him from ever lording over us? What is wrong about having a Term
>> >>Limit? What is wrong about a temporary president who will preside over
>>the
>> >>mechanism that would usher in a new era? I ask these, because I get the
>> >>feeling that Saihou Mballow and co subscribe to the nutty, and one-track
>> >>minded ideas that this "SS Daffeh" character keeps putting out. Can't
>>you
>> >>see how unhelpful his ideas are? UDP-NRP may get around 40% of the vote
>> >>(ceteris paribus.) The Emperor, thru' machination, etc might yet pull
>>out
>> >>45-48%. Doesn't common sense tell die hard UDP folks that they need to
>> >>reach out to NADD in order to capture enough votes to cross the line?
>> >>
>> >>Why is the UDP insisting on having it all? If history is anything to go
>> >>by, those that have such attitudes end up loosing it all. If we don't
>> >>agree on anything else, I trust we can agree that those of us who have
>> >>been nervous about the UDP have reason to be. You are proving us right
>>by
>> >>your behavior. This open salivating at the prospects of power is what
>> >>worries some of us. We are not in the days of Mansaya. All we want is
>> >>someone to be Chief Executive for ten years, and whether he makes the
>> >>skies rain gold and diamonds on us, leave and let someone else take
>>over.
>> >>Why is that a problem?
>> >>
>> >>And finally, I hope that folks like yourself and Karamba would be a
>>FORCE
>> >>FOR GOOD within the UDP. The sun shines too hot in Gambia, so I can
>> >>understand why Ousainou and his fanatical Kitchen Cabinet don't seem to
>>be
>> >>assessing things clearly. But you, Karamba, and others outside need to
>> >>impress on them what the dynamics are. UDP-NRP alliance DOES NOT have
>>the
>> >>numbers to beat the Emperor. Don�t be fooled by the Fula-Mandingo
>>60-65%
>> >>composition of the electorate. Those two groups are the most
>>unpredictable
>> >>when it comes to how they�re swing. In any case, your numerous forward
>>of
>> >>this divisive, and mad Daffeh's "intellectual" writings is not
>>inspiring.
>> >>I would have felt better if you had -just once- attempted to counter
>>some
>> >>of the outrageous things he had written about other NADD leaders. That
>>has
>> >>not happened. Please be a FORCE FOR GOOD.
>> >>
>> >>Would it be any consolation if come October, the Emperor sails thru�
>>by a
>> >>few points because of the intransigence of your party. I say
>> >>�intransigence� because NADD is willing to give UDP everything it
>>has
>> >>asked for, but the Go Ahead to be a replica of what obtains. (No sane
>> >>Gambian will be willing to budge on some Safeguards.) What is UDP
>>willing
>> >>to give in return? Tell us what Honorable-to-be Saihou Mballow thinks.
>>We
>> >>know what mad Daffeh thinks, now let�s hear yours�
>> >>
>> >>Thanks and good morning again.
>> >>
>> >>Saul
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by saihou Mballow
>> >> > <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Mr Khan,
>> >> > traditionally i know it is a sign of respect
>> >> > to call someone "Koto" but i think i would give you
>> >> > the "kotoya" because you might be older than me.
>> >> >
>> >> > SS Daffeh's email address should be with
>> >> > ALLGambian.net newspaper should anyone have interest
>> >> > in it.
>> >> > For the seek of public interest i wouldn't hesitate to
>> >> > forward his writings or any other Gambian who ask for
>> >> > that favor if time permit me.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks
>> >> > Saihou
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --- Saul S Khan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering
>> >> >> by "Saul S Khan" <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Koto Saihou -
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I gotto ask you this - why don't this "Daffeh"
>> >> >> fellow subscribe himself
>> >> >> and supply his fans his "intellectual writings? I
>> >> >> ask because i'm yet to
>> >> >> see one originating email address from all the
>> >> >> forwards that you've put
>> >> >> out here, which makes me wonder...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks
>> >> >> Saul
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering
>> >> >> by saihou Mballow
>> >> >> > <[log in to unmask]> ]
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > DISCLAIMER: THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTEN BY SS DAFFEH
>> >> >> AND
>> >> >> > AM FORWARDING IT FOR THE INTEREST OF MANY PEOPLE
>> >> >> WHO
>> >> >> > EXPRESSED INTEREST IN READING MR DAFFEH'S
>> >> >> INTELLECTUAL
>> >> >> > WRITINGS.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > IN
>> >> >> RESPONSE
>> >> >> > TO Dr SAINE
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Mr Editor,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Please allow me space in your well-established
>> >> >> medium
>> >> >> > to respond to Dr Abdoulaye Saine�s article of 3rd
>> >> >> > February 2006.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Dr Saine, in your article, you asked why Lawyer
>> >> >> > Ousainu Darboe did not make the case for
>> >> >> concession
>> >> >> > from NADD based on the fact that of all the
>> >> >> > constituent parties the UDP polled the largest
>> >> >> vote in
>> >> >> > 2001. Well, I am not in a position to answer that
>> >> >> > question because I am neither a Lawyer Darboe
>> >> >> > spokesperson nor a UDP insider, but I must say I
>> >> >> am
>> >> >> > very surprised you asked the question in the first
>> >> >> > place. On the 25th of January 2006, you wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > �Darboe tried in 1996 and 2001 and could not
>> >> >> dislodge
>> >> >> > Jammeh. It is time for another candidate to give
>> >> >> it a
>> >> >> > try. This is partly because the political
>> >> >> landscape of
>> >> >> > 2001 and 20006 are very different and the later
>> >> >> may
>> >> >> > require a different strategy and candidate.�
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If you can say the above, why do you now consider
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> > vital that the UDP should have made a case on the
>> >> >> > basis of their previous electoral record? Is this
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> > a complete sheer hypocrisy? By saying that 2006
>> >> >> > requires a different candidate, you have openly
>> >> >> > excluded Lawyer Darboe from the race. The only
>> >> >> reason
>> >> >> > you said this was because it reflects the position
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > your associates within NADD. More so, you said
>> >> >> this to
>> >> >> > promote the vicious conspiracy theory of the
>> >> >> Walter
>> >> >> > Mitty Lamin Waa Juwara. This statement is an open
>> >> >> > manifestation of your utter contempt for Mr Darboe
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > the UDP. You have a hidden agenda Doc, and it is
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> > help Juwara to propel Mr Darboe to the back seat
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> > the political spectrum. Now that you awfully
>> >> >> failed,
>> >> >> > you are trying to save your face by being
>> >> >> > conciliatory. How many times did Presidents
>> >> >> Abdoulaye
>> >> >> > Wade and Moi Kebake of Senegal and Kenya
>> >> >> respectively,
>> >> >> > tried before they finally succeed? Give us a break
>> >> >> > Doc. You and the STGDP have used your positions
>> >> >> both
>> >> >> > pecuniary and as facilitators to blackmail Mr
>> >> >> Darboe
>> >> >> > and the UDP. Unfortunately for you, they did not
>> >> >> > succumb. The only thing you achieved as a result
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> > the creation of hatred and suspicion among
>> >> >> individual
>> >> >> > members of NADD Executive, the by-product of which
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> > the present chaos. It is people like you who are
>> >> >> > responsible for NADD�s disintegration, not Mr
>> >> >> Darboe�s
>> >> >> > resignation. After all, he is not indispensable,
>> >> >> for
>> >> >> > no one is. How dear you try to pass the bug, Doc.
>> >> >> We
>> >> >> > have seen the successes of the Sopii and the
>> >> >> Rainbow
>> >> >> > Coalitions of Senegal and Kenya respectively.
>> >> >> Behind
>> >> >> > their successes was the appreciation of the
>> >> >> existing
>> >> >> > political realities including the strength of
>> >> >> their
>> >> >> > component parties. This was what was lacking in
>> >> >> NADD,
>> >> >> > and you [Dr Abdoulaye Saine] and your cohorts are
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > ones responsible. You tried to down play the
>> >> >> electoral
>> >> >> > strength of the UDP and yet you don�t want them to
>> >> >> > pullout. Do you think they lack conscience? May
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> > remain a wishful thinker in perpetuity.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You also asked whether the Memorandum of
>> >> >> Understanding
>> >> >> > was so blatantly biased against the UDP that it
>> >> >> could
>> >> >> > not be salvaged through negotiation. What a
>> >> >> > conciliatory tone. Have you got any regrets Doc?
>> >> >> With
>> >> >> > hindsight, I think you should because you are one
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > people who created the mess. The UDP never cried
>> >> >> any
>> >> >> > foul in relation to the content of the MOU. It was
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> > and your associates in NADD Executive, Lamin Waa
>> >> >> > Juwara in particular, who were manipulatively
>> >> >> > misinterpreting the MOU, with intent, in order to
>> >> >> > promote your vicious and flirty conspiracy against
>> >> >> Mr
>> >> >> > Darboe and the UDP. Again on the 25th of January
>> >> >> 2006,
>> >> >> > you wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > �The ongoing political furor over OJ selection as
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > presidential candidate for the 2006 presidential
>> >> >> > election and not Ousainu Darboe by NADD Executive
>> >> >> > cannot be contested on grounds of OJ�s
>> >> >> electability.
>> >> >> > This is a flawed argument that undermines the very
>> >> >> > democratic process that sought to engender and
>> >> >> agreed
>> >> >> > to by all parties. Flawed as the MOU is, Darboe
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> > all the presidential aspirants accepted the ground
>> >> >> > rules heading into the meeting that selected OJ.�
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This was a deceitful and manipulative
>> >> >> interpretation
>> >> >> > with intent, of the MOU. PART 111 [8] of the MOU
>> >> >> > states: �The selection of a candidate of the
>> >> >> alliance
>> >> >> > for the presidential, National Assembly and
>> >> >> Council
>> >> >> > elections shall be done by consensus; provided
>> >> >> that in
>> >> >> > the event of impasse selection shall be done by
>> >> >> > holding a primary election restricted to party
>> >> >> > delegates on the basis of equal number of
>> >> >> delegates,
>> >> >> > comprising the chairman, chairwoman and youth
>> >> >> leader
>> >> >> > of each party from each village/ward in a
>> >> >> > constituency.� PART 1V [12] further states: �All
>> >> >> > agreements and decisions shall be authenticated by
>> >> >> > appending the signatures of all the
>> >> >> representatives
>> >> >> > associated with a given committee of the alliance.
>> >> >> All
>> >> >> > pages of any agreement of the Alliance shall
>> >> >> contain
>> >> >> > the initials of the signatories to be deemed as
>> >> >> > authentic.�
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> > === message truncated ===
>> >> >
>> >> >
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