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Kabir Njaay <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:18:31 +0200
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Soffie,

I  believe my subscription and that of "Esseu Gambia" are different. When I
was subscribed it was by a List Manager who knows me personally and aslo
knew that I 'own' that particular email address I asked to be subscribed
with bacuse we had exchanged privately many times with that same address.
The List Manager in question is Sidibeh.

The reason I asked for clarification on this particular issue was to
ascertain if hence anyone can be subscribed with any address anytime and
from your response I glean that is the case and sponsorship is nolonger
required?

Regards,

Kabir.

On 6/1/07, Ceesay, Soffie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Kabir,
>
> You got it.  When you were subscribed, even though your email address did
> not contain your name, you were identified as the owner of that email
> address and so it should be with Essau Gambia's subscription and everyone
> elses.
>
> As for accountability, I think the person flaunting the "rules" that guide
> discussions on the L be held accountable, and not the person who sponsored
> their subscription.
>
> Soffie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kabir Njaay
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 4:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Being real or Psuedo
>
> Soffie,
>
> Thanks for the clarifucation but I thought the whole purpose of the
> exercise of not allowing 'free email addresses' to be subscribed without a
> sponsor was to discourage pseudo/anonymous subscriptions; and where 'free
> email addresses' are subscribed the sponsor would be held accountable
> because he/she is supposed to know the identity of sponsored?
>
> If the above is right and I aslo assume this "Essau Gambia" was subscribed
> not so long ago, then management must have the name of the sponsor stored?
>
> Please rectify me if I am wrong but the above is my recollection from that
> debate about anonymity on the list and that those 'rules' were even shared
> here.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kabir.
>
> On 6/1/07, Ceesay, Soffie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Essaugambia, Jambarr, Kocha Barma (long dead?) as individuals' names
> > aren't ones I am familiar with but these were subscribed to the L.
> > So, Luntang, as Malanding said, there is nothing full-proof that
> > management can do about subscribers using names that may not be
> > "real".  However, there was a requirement that those with free-mail
> > addresses be sponsored by a current member and that A first name,
> > could be Fafa, and A last name, could be Jamaano, be provided for the
> > email address being subscribed.  But, the debate has not been about
> > pseudonyms and when it does, who can really tell who is using a real or
> false name?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Soffie
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list [mailto:
> > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Malanding Jaiteh
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:26 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Being real or Psuedo
> >
> > Luntang,
> > Although this problem of Real or Alias/Psuedo (nome de guerre or
> > whatever you call it) has been revisited many times since the birth of
> > Gambia-l, I cannot recall when management legislated against one or
> > the other.  After many years on the list  my take is that the choice
> > to go by aliases (nome de
> > guerre) should be left to subscribers. After all how do you know
> > Malanding Jaiteh and Luntang are REAL  but Fatoumata  and Essau Gambia
> > aren't? The requirement that folks with free mail accounts get someone
> > REAL to introduce/recommend then has been our little way cutting down
> > abuse.  Although we keep track of these we are aware that its not at
> > all  fool proof  especially when dealing with adults who find it
> > necessary to hide behind "nom de guerre" to be effective and potent
> cyber-wariors!
> >
> >
> > Malanding Jaiteh
> >
> >
> > Luntang wrote:
> >
> > >List Managers , I am calling on you to adhere to Rules you have laid
> > >down
> > on this Forum .Delist the pen Names Essaugambia and Lamarana Jallow
> > and let them sign with their real Names .It is unfair and cowardice to
> > hide behind  false Name to attack decent people  .They should be brave
> > enough to sign with their REAL NAME(s) like those they are attacking .
> > >
> > >Luntang
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Essau Gambia" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 3:55 PM
> > >Subject: The boy Sanneh Affair getting out of hand!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Folks,
> > >>
> > >>Abdou Karim Sanneh is starting a fight he cannot win. Will all his
> > >>edcuation, Sanneh is proving to be another "ignorant." Intellectuals
> > >>argue maturely. Sister Fatou was right when she joined brother
> > >>Malanding and Sister Soffie for this chap to exercise decency in his
> > >>postings. Essau would never curse Sanneh's mother. If he wants let
> > >>him continue to rain insults at me. I'm here to address issues
> > >>maturely. I read other postings with an open mind. I'm a democrat to
> > >>the core. Its up to Karim or any other reader to buy or reject my
> > >>arguments. Karim should have a day off and reflect on his
> > >>intellectual shortcomings. He needs to grow up as a human being.
> > >>Getting all these degrees, don't make one to be smart or
> > >>intelligent. Education without moral is counter
> > productive. Just a thought....
> > >>
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