Keep talking!

Joe


>From: "George Sarr" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>To: "'The Gambia and related-issues mailing list'" 
><[log in to unmask]>
>CC: <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: [>-<] RE: Attn: List Managers
>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 20:01:40 -0400
>
>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by "George Sarr" 
><[log in to unmask]> ]
>
>
>Keep blowing hot air as usual. We all know the criminal that was scheming 
>to
>shut down the Gambia Post and failed miserably. The Mighty is still here, a
>million strong. Like I keep telling you idiots, you can't keep a good man
>down, no matter how hard you try. Your threats are hardly news.
>
>I suggest you take a good look at yourself in a mirror. You promised the
>Gambians a land full of honey and milk. Not me. And now that it is clear to
>all that anything you put your incompetent little fingers goes to rack and
>ruins, you decide to turn the attention to me, all over again, just stuck 
>on
>stupid. What you fail to grasp is I'm not the enemy, nor do I have your
>time. Get a grip!
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe Sambou
>Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 7:17 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
>
>How dare you posture!  Did you not do the same criminal activity that you
>call yourself being against?  What source are you talking about?  Malik
>stated he did not forward anything to you, so where the hell did you get it
>from, except invading the same e-mail address you provided him?  I just
>brought your criminal activity up because when you did it, only a handful
>call you out on it, and a name that comes to mind is Yus.  All knows that
>the last person I will bat for is Fast Eddy and will call for his head on
>this one, but you are in that same category for you committed the same
>crime.  Sit there and think I have an axe to grind against you, like you 
>are
>
>something I will worry about.  No, I am addressing both your criminal
>activities and will call your name any day and you know my address if you
>want to do something about it, or better yet, do something when I come to
>Atlanta in a couple of weeks.  You know I hold no prisoners!  What ever you
>say here, just be prepared to back it up some day.  See you soon!
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
> >From: <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >CC: <[log in to unmask]>, <[log in to unmask]>
> >Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
> >Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 17:40:14 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >Joe,
> >  It's no secret that you have an axe to grind and will gloat at the
> >slightest opportunity to slander my name just like you did to those
> >innocent and hardworking Gambians in that despicable e-mail. Now then,
> >what proof do you have that I "illegally accessed a private
> >correspondence" you had? None whatsoever. And I'm not going to bury my
> >source either. I'm not a snitch. Joe, the sooner you quit lying about me
> >and grow up the better. George Sarr is on some grown man shit! . Let his
> >nuts go, faggot. Goddame!
> >
> >"I was a thorn in his flesh"
> >Don't flatter yourself, faggot. Eat friggin' a dick! (lekal chu chu! 
>mofo)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Thank you Malanding and Laye.  I am glad that this criminal behavior 
>is
> > > addressed.  As you all know, I was a victim at the Gambia Post, when
> > > George  illegally accessed a private correspondence I had with malik
> > > (from the  e-mail address he provided Malik) just because I was a 
>thorn
> > > in his flesh.   Most of the readership turned the other way and some
> > > were even happy that it  happened to Joe.  The good thing was that 
>what
> > > I said in that mail was no  secret for I said it to him in public.  My
> > > thoughts at the time was, if I  was hiding my ID and made comments
> > > regarding the butcher, this fellow would  not have hesitated to offer 
>me
> > > for a lynching.  Thus, we should never be too  tired to address 
>criminal
> > > behavior against any, by any, for it is also an  assault on our
> > > collective.
> > >
> > > Chi Jaama
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: Radio Free Gambia <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
> > >>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:25 -0500
> > >>
> > >>Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a
> > >> conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy 
>and
> > >> security on this list.
> > >>
> > >>-BambaLaye
> > >>
> > >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> > >> > BambaLaye,
> > >> > I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop 
>outside
> > >> the theater hall.  The rest of the management must be offline now
> > >> but given the urgent  need to protect the innocence, I have decided
> > >> to temporarily suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management
> > >> have time to discuss the matter.  Have a good night.
> > >> >
> > >> > Malanding
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Radio Free Gambia wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>Thanks Malanding for your prompt response:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and
> > >> not Pa's request to suspend the suspect account  pending
> > >> verification."
> > >> >>
> > >> >>I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to
> > >> protect
> > >>Pa
> > >> >>Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond
> > >> reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or
> > >> (2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit
> > >>authority
> > >> >>to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and
> > >> >>protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we
> > >> speak. Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint
> > >> to protect
> > >> >> his
> > >> >>privacy?
> > >> >>
> > >> >>There appears to be two different thresholds set for management
> > >> action
> > >>on
> > >> >>the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the
> > >> integrity of this respected list.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch 
>my
> > >>
> > >>head
> > >> >>too. Have a great night.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>-BambaLaye
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
> > >> >>>While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal
> > >> mail sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I  still believe that it
> > >> would be unprecedented for  management to delist Ebou Jallow
> > >> without evidence tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa
> > >> Nderry's privacy. As far
> > >>as
> > >> >>>I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to  report his address being spoofed 
>to
> > >> G-l management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails
> > >> without conscent.
> > >> >>>Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and
> > >> not Pa's request to suspend the suspect account  pending
> > >> verification. Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the
> > >> managers that Pa contacted them about the suspended account.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine
> > >> it not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some
> > >> of
> > >>whom
> > >> >>>he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be
> > >> fair to state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be
> > >> resubscribed today, I hope he would in the future be unambiguous
> > >> about the status of Ebou's postings, but until the G-l management
> > >> cannot act.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Malanding
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>[log in to unmask] wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>>Laye,
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to
> > >> >>>> de-list
> > >> >>>>Ebou Jallow  because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site
> > >> was illegally
> > >> >>>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the
> > >> >>>> hackers
> > >> >>>>( and
> > >> >>>>we all saw that evidence which the management said  was the 
>reason
> > >>
> > >>they
> > >> >>>>decided
> > >> >>>>to de-list his email address for the time  being) and Ebou
> > >> Jallow's posting
> > >> >>>>of emails he clearly labels as  intercepted private communication
> > >> to
> > >>Pa
> > >> >>>>Nderry
> > >> >>>>was what led me to also  suggest that Ebou Jallow should be
> > >> de-listed
> > >> >>>> but
> > >> >>>>Malanding offered an  explanation that still has me scratching my
> > >>head.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>Jabou Joh
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > >> [log in to unmask] writes:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>List  Managers:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry
> > >> Mbai's
> > >> >>>> claim
> > >> >>>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou  Jallow
> > >> ([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to
> > >>demonstrate
> > >> >>>>to
> > >> >>>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai  to
> > >> >>>> forward
> > >> >>>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any  
>satisfactory
> > >> demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr.
> > >> Jallow,
> > >>he
> > >> >>>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of
> > >> the
> > >> >>>> list.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim  of
> > >>illegal
> > >> >>>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted -
> > >> because
> > >> >>>> he
> > >> >>>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies
> > >> logic
> > >> >>>> (in
> > >> >>>>my
> > >> >>>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the  list
> > >> with
> > >> >>>> no
> > >> >>>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my
> > >> >>>> knowledge
> > >> >>>>so far.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the  list and the
> > >> outcome was
> > >> >>>>swift and clear to all.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>My apolgies if this  issue is being dealt with under the  
>shadows.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>-BambaLaye
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm,  Ebou Jallow said:
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>>>*From*: [log in to unmask]
> > >> >>>>>*Sent*:  Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
> > >> >>>>>*To*: [log in to unmask]
> > >> >>>>>*Subject*:  Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation  please
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>Pa Nderry,
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>I am a visitor to your site.  Congrats for setting up the online
> > >> news service. I enjoy alot going  through it .However what is
> > >> disturbing
> > >>to
> > >> >>>>>me
> > >> >>>>>is
> > >> >>>>>that people's  private lives are constantly dragged into what
> > >> seems
> > >>to
> > >> >>>>>have
> > >> >>>>>no links  with issues that are relevant to national development.
> > >> My first
> > >> >>>>>example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the
> > >> >>>>> second
> > >> >>>>> is
> > >> >>>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him
> > >> but
> > >>I
> > >> >>>>>think
> > >> >>>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is  living
> > >> with, or who
> > >> >>>>>he
> > >> >>>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It  sounds so ridiculous to 
>me.
> > >> It makes
> > >> >>>>>me
> > >> >>>>>wonder do we have some  online saints? Really not. Talking about
> > >> corruption,
> > >> >>>>>politics  and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but
> > >>trying
> > >> >>>>>to
> > >> >>>>>smear  others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever
> > >> your source
> > >> >>>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one
> > >> should have
> > >> >>>>>the
> > >> >>>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping  silent entrenches 
>the
> > >> problem.
> > >> >>>>>If
> > >> >>>>>it is true, I know it is not  only the said ambassador who is
> > >> guilty
> > >> >>>>> of
> > >> >>>>>sexual harassment in the  Gambia, not only in government, it is
> > >> every where
> > >> >>>>>in our schools, in  the private offices, in our houses, in the
> > >> media.
> > >> >>>>> I
> > >> >>>>>am
> > >> >>>>>presently  working on a book to be published in some months 
>ahead
> > >> and one
> > >> >>>>>of
> > >> >>>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am 
>not
> > >> trying
> > >> >>>>>to
> > >> >>>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government  officer but I 
>am
> > >> writing
> > >> >>>>>an
> > >> >>>>>independent opinion and certainly  as a journalist as well. I
> > >> know
> > >>his
> > >> >>>>>name
> > >> >>>>>casually like the name of any  other person of high portfolio in
> > >> government.
> > >> >>>>>Thats all but I  feel it is not right to denigrate him on no
> > >> grounds,
> > >> >>>>> I
> > >> >>>>>think
> > >> >>>>>it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his
> > >> family or alone.
> > >> >>>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside  
>the
> > >> country.
> > >> >>>>>If
> > >> >>>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern  us as a nation, 
>why
> > >>
> > >>not,
> > >> >>>>>belch
> > >> >>>>>it out, sure we all need to  know, but otherwise, things like 
>who
> > >> >>>>> drinks
> > >> >>>>>beer
> > >> >>>>>or has a girl  friend in the corner is not substantiate enough 
>to
> > >> use valuable time  on our newspapers that have such a lofty
> > >> mission. We
> > >> >>>>> have
> > >> >>>>>more
> > >> >>>>>pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning
> > >> that Katy
> > >> >>>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know 
>her
> > >>
> > >>but
> > >> >>>>> I
> > >> >>>>>feel
> > >> >>>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that.
> > >> >>>>>Most  times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading
> > >> >>>>> reports
> > >> >>>>>or
> > >> >>>>>some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper
> > >> >>>>> report
> > >> >>>>> is
> > >> >>>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor 
>a
> > >> summary
> > >> >>>>>of
> > >> >>>>>a boigraphical tale.
> > >> >>>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I  am saying keep up the good work and
> > >> congrats
> > >> >>>>> for
> > >> >>>>>establishing the  newspaper online. But focus on better issues,
> > >> we
> > >> >>>>> have
> > >> >>>>>loads
> > >> >>>>>of  bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>Mariama Khan
> > >> >>>>>Postgraduate student
> > >> >>>>>Turin, italy
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>autho- Futa Toro
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting  lips
> > >> >>>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>Mariama  Khan
> > >> >>>>>
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