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thanks masoud for being so kind in wanting know the current whereabout Ebrahim. to be truthful i have lost contact with him after my travels.but the story which came out on a spore of the moment has triker me to find out what he is doing now ,where he lives and what are his conditions.thanks again haruna the interest.
   
  as for the BRAINS OF THE GAMBIA QUIZ CHARITY ,we can open an inter-continental bank account where interested parties can pay their donations ,this can be from the $5 a month to any amount that one is willing to put into it.the account can have uathorised signatories in both continents who most coordinate there efforts in case of accessing the account.now with paypal one can easily pay from all over the place. or we can open the account in the gambia ,we can find reliable and trusted individuals who will administer the account ,any time the account need accessing for withdrawal an email be sent to all registered members and the reason authomaicall known to us all.
   
  the gambia is very advance now in terms of banking and finance .a discussion with a bank amanager can also be sorted .i believe opening the account in the gambia is the best alternative.we can ask schools to look for good students that need genuine help and are harding working,their progress monitored. also court cases for politically motivated arrest and emmergency medical assistance for rear illnesses to members of our society .
   
  there is no limit as to what such a charity can do.we can put our heads together come up with a good name for the charity .i hope sister jabou can come in with her usual good ideas.this is for every gambian to participate.from abdoukarim,yanks and elder LJ .Also DR jeng and momodou camara .lets do it.if haruna can do it ,we all can ,if yero can we all can.

Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
  
My Suntou,

I almost cried when I read Ebrahim's story. DO you know where Ebrahim is and 
what he's doing now?

You have effectively distilled our condition in your notes here and that is 
what I have recognized as I'm sure many of our collegaues here have. The 
problem for us then is how to break out of the cycle of selfishness and how to 
harness our virgin resources. First we must recognize that most societies were 
exactly like what you have just described in their transition from an agrarian 
to an industrial culture. The Industrial revolution virtually gave them a 
quantum leap to arrive at a more more plural dispensation because they 
recognized that the inter-connectedness of economies and societies necessarily 
multiplies their selfish gains when properly harnessed. So what appears as a 
non-selfish dispensation is really an intensely selfish dispensation. The only 
difference between the two is that the intensely selfish dispensation takes into 
account the human proclivities and innate considerations and expands it to 
the selfish HUMAN as the singular, whereas the individually selfish does not 
recognize the yield of intensely associative economy.

I am however very delighted that you recognize our condition. Now then the 
way we can break out of the cycle is "NOT to stop at the knowledge of such or 
the recognition thereof" but to begin with Suntou and Haruna, without regard 
to Samba. If we are confident that Samba also recognizes our condition, it 
will then be a matter of time and encouragement from his confidence in the 
conduct of Suntou and Haruna for Samba to join us unconditionally. So since you 
have agreed that you and I have now joined in THE BRAIN OF GAMBIA TRUST, you 
and I must begin our contributions regime while YOU and I reach out to our 
other colleagues in all manner to seek their participation.

Can you share with us what address to send our contributions to and since 
you will be working on Registration in UK, tell us how we should make our 
instruments out before the Name of the entity is registered. I thank you and I 
know Nyamorkono, Galleh, Karim, Yero, Laye, Yanks, Rene, Kukeh, Jabou, Fatou, 
Alieu, Owens, coker, and all our other colleagues will be contemplating joining 
us.

Also please send questions and their answers to [log in to unmask] 
(mailto:[log in to unmask]) to form our inventory of quiz material. I love you. 
Just don't get any funny ideas.

Haroun Masoud. MQDT. Rashid. Darbo. Al Mutawakkil. 

In a message dated 11/25/2007 12:14:55 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
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haruna ,the idea is great.what i have experience in my dealing with gambians 
goes as follows.we put good ideas together but don't usually follow through 
it .we tend to be a little bit too family minded .what i mean by that is ,our 
close blood relative have much bigger say in our lifes than some fellow 
country men/women who might need our collective assistance more.
i tell you a little story .after completing my secondary four back in the 
early 90's,i came to banjul to start my high school .now from secondary four 
then ,you start either from form four or three in a senior high school.i 
together with one jahanka boy got a scholarship from the christian mission because 
we came from a mission school.one of our colleague by the name ebrahim ,from 
wulli also gain a good result from the junior secondary four final exams but 
he couldn't have any sponsor to high school.and that man was intelligent and 
hard working.but then the high school fees cost about D2000 per year but 
ebrahim couldn't have any family member or outsider to sponsor him.he later 
started pushing wheel barrows for women in the serrekunda market to earn money to 
continue on his school.but how long will he get D2000 from shoppers that buy 
heavy commodities and to be loaded in vehicle bound for 
brikama,gunjure,sanyang or else were ? .every day when i am on my way to school ,i
see ebrahim pushing his wheel barrow.this is a boy who was accepted at 
gambia high and muslim but no fees.i felt so sick i avoided seeing him.every time 
i show him we all will nearly cry.
ebrahim couldn't continue his school by the time i finished my high school 
,he was still with the spirit but lack the finance .
this is just my story ,and believe in me ,when i go out of my house in 
bakoteh ,i see lots of similar people ,no sponsor.yet ,we spend our money on 
things completely irralevant.were is the community spirit ? i blame politics and 
politicains but we are all part of the blame .we cultivate the types of 
leaders we have.yahya knows the key weakness of the average secular educated 
gambian and he uses it against us.we want power,fame,a place to be lazy,some were 
to steal a few thausand.yahya also knows the cowardness in our amoury.
yet i believe that an independent charity can work for gambians.if people 
like the hamas and hisboulah can organise charity that change there peoples 
life why not us ? those oraginsations depend on the support of there members but 
they build schools,hospitals and run them effectively.
all we have to do is just be sincere in our cause.as you say $5 is big money 
for me but i am willig to join in .we can form a board of trustees right 
here .a non-political charity for gambians back home.we can set aside an amount 
for disadvantage students that schools will identify and then our cash can 
assist.but untill we start to see the gambia not individual interest ,our 
condition will remain like this for a long time.how many charities do we have in 
the developed countries ? many ,yet the state do its job ,whilst us,the state 
fail us and we fail each other.God help us.
the plus side is ,gambians are reading the likes of baba,haruna and every 
one here.people browse the net and they are getting informed.


Haruna Darbo wrote:


"whats all this thanksgiving about you americanise now koto?" Ayatollah.

If I hear this Americanise stuff one more time Suntou, I'll wring your small 
neck.


Thanxgiving:
Even though I am introduced to the idea from an American perspective, over 
the years, I have come to recognize its value for all the world's citizens 
and 
cultures. The idea from an American point of view is to be appreciative of 
bounty from God/Allah in all its dimensions. If the bounty came to you from 
a 
lottery winning, gift by other, or your own blood, sweat, and tears, you 
recognise that God/Allah's hand is firmly behind it. If you do not believe 
in 
God/Allah's omniscience, consider that there is economies of scale from 
life. 
Those economies of scale from life (in all its forms) is what yields 
recognizable bounty. And it is the aggregate of them that constitute 
God/Allah for 
economy in literature sakes.

Now then you might declare that you hadn't recognized any bounty yet during 
your life. To this I say, you do have the life that expects or seeks the 
bounty. And possibly the health and innovation that, when properly 
harnessed, 
could yield immense bounty. Therefore, you have, either by design or 
default, 
bought into the idea of prosperity. It affords you the communion that 
creates 
the general bounty for mankind. From the far side, you contribute to others' 
recognition of bounty and appreciation for that will yield you the 
particular 
bounty you haven't recognized yet.

In effect therefore, and whether you subscribe to any particular religion or 
not, and whether you believe in divinity proper, the mere belonging to the 
families of life (in their various forms) accrues a particular value in 
economies of scale. That is what people mean when they say prayer in 
communion 
works.

I encourage you Mr. Suntou and my colleagues, to choose a day in the year, 
any day, to affirm the value of your life, and appreciate both the seemingly 
insignificant bounties, as well as the magnificent glories of life.

Now go away. It will be wise for all humanity to choose the day that 
Americans have chosen because if all humanity chooses the last Thursday in 
November 
to appreciate bounties in life, it will be more valuable marginally than if 
each one chooses their own day for fear of Americanisation. Think of it this 
way: A prayer of a thousand lives is far more superior to a prayer of one or 
a 
hundred. That is the idea of pilgrimages. And consider other values that may 
accrue us when all humanity is trained on prayer at the same time. One big 
prayer orgy that is bound to impact the lives of our animal colleagues. 

"Good initiative on the Rambo quiz to come. Our people need every little 
help." Ayatollah.

Thank you for the encouragement Suntou. I take it therefore that you think 
the Brain of Gambia Trust is a good idea. If you think its a good idea, 
would 
you therefore join me in the bricks and mortar for it. You could infact be 
the 
Treasurer to collect the contributions of our colleagues who will form the 
first board of directors for the Brain of Gambia Trust. Focus and let me 
know. 
We Gambians generally lack the innovation for the finishing touch. The link 
between talk and productivity. $5.00/month and if you wish to forward the 
annual contribution you get a discount of $10.00 ($50.00/year) and for those 
in 
Euroland, you have a particular advantage at this time with the devalued 
dollar. What say you my friends???? While we remain disenchanted by Yahya 
severally, the disdain threatens to consign our lives to paralysis and 
inutility. 
As the plunder of Gambia continues to its natural end. When that end comes, 
how can you unearth the pentup innovation and productivity. Can innovation 
and 
productivity be called upon at will??? I declare they cannot. For the effect 
of time and interceding events. Giddy up my fellow citizens. What it will 
take is this:

If Suntou thinks something is a good idea, Suntou expresses thusly and finds 
a way to act on it. Suntou does not wait for Nyarmorkono before Suntou 
registers his wishes and applies his acumen and ability to produce. Yahya 
did not 
wait for Suntou to create The Jammeh Foundation. And whether it is legal or 
not, the end result is that Yahya, through The Jammeh Foundation, is 
affecting 
the real lives of our fellow citizens. Suntou ought to therefore find a 
legal and valuable way to affect the lives of his fellow citizens. That will 
be 
better than Robin Hood. It will also give Yahya tremendous inspiration and 
opportunity to turn the corner and make The Jammeh Foundation Legal and 
valuable. It is a win-win proposition. Please don't tell me you will not do 
Legal and 
valuable because Yahya will never do Legal and valuable. That is the 
beginning of useless Suntou life. What lays in the darkest bosoms of a man 
whose 
life hinges on the life of another, replete with coy and demure demarche, 
false 
starts, non-starters, and bantanbilly????? Enquiring minds want to know. 
Masoud. MQDT. Darbo. Haroun Rashid. Al Mutawakkil. We have a unique 
opportunity 
to assist Yahya in training on propriety especially if we believe he has 
enormous shortcomings. It is a time for Reflections and Reconnaisance. Yahya 
is a 
fellow Gambian. $5.00 is the price of a cup of cafe Latte' at starbucks or 
tea at the Garret House. The spirit it will engender in Brain of Gambia 
Trust? 
Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!Darbo. 


Haruna Darbo wrote: Good to see you again 
Nyamorkono. Hope all's well. Happy thanxgiving to 
y'all.

Masoud. Haroun. Al Mu'umin. The next edition of "Brain of Gambia Quiz" is 
coming. The charity this time will be Ousman Rambo Jatta the kidnapped 
UDP/NRP 
officer. Remember if you think this is a great way to share knowledge and 
assist deserving Gambians at the same time, let us know here. The idea is to 
establish a permanent Brain of Gambia Trust to lift the spirits of our 
fellow 
citizens and afford needy students scholarships. I thought $5.00/month or 
$50 
annual contribution could get us well on our way to forming the first board. 
Lemme Know Lemme know. Also send questions and their answers in confidence 
to 
thegdproject @aol.com if you wish to have them be part of the inventory of 
questions. Issues on Gambia, Senegal, SierraLeone, Ghana, Bissau, Guinea 
Conakry, Lebanon, and Liberia could be par for the course. I encourage 
students of 
Gambia University and senior secondary schools to participate when they are 
able. MQDT. Darbo.



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