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Ginny come lately,

Me be me, I choose to take the liberty to communicate in and out of this forum, to even discuss matters and abstract notions from far away places, but this is nearer and close.




> 
> From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2007/03/06 ti PM 10:46:05 CET
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 獻ne: Re: SV: When one door is closed, the other is open.
> 
> I'm confused?!  Why bring this issue here?  What is the point?  If
> you're brining something here, that has to do with the Bantaba and hte
> person running it, what should the rest of us do?  What do you expect
> the rest of us to do when we don't know Momodou Camara's side of the
> story!?
> 
> 
> nd And you've kept posting message upon message regarding this?  Why?
> Could you not have emailed or somehow contacted Momodou privately and
> voiced your concerns with him?
> 
> 
> I don't know exactly what happened, but as it is Mr. Camara's forum,
> whether it's wrong or right, he *does* have the right to reject or let
> in whom he likes.  Though I'm not quite sure what happened in the
> first place to cause him to decide *not* to let you to continue to
> post there, if I'm getting your grievance right, that you were banned
> from that forum and you don't feel you were given a suitable
> explanation for that.
> 
> 
> However, this seems to be in poor taste to them drag this into another
> public forum, where I'd venture to say that most of us have no idea
> what has gone on in the other forum, and thus, it doesn't seem fair to
> me if you expect us to feel some sort of pitty for you and expect us
> to jump on your side and demand that you be let back on the forum or
> whatever it is you want.
> 
> 
> It just seems strange and a bit childish to me to all of a sudden be
> getting these emails about a situation that I, for one, had no idea
> about!  It's liek the emails just started out in the middle of a
> discussion that I had no part in.
> 
> 
> But anyway *sigh*.  I hope that things get solved in an amicable way
> for all, whatever that is.
> 
> Ginny
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/5/07, Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I'm sure that this and many other items that have surfaced on this list
> > serve ( on Guinea, Mauritania, Senegal ) have not been - strictly speaking,
> > Gambian-related issues, except for the fact that more 20% of Sierra Leone's
> > teaching force and a more sizeable number of our refugees have been
> > dispersed throughout the Gambia.
> > The Sierra Leone presidential election is scheduled to take place on January
> > 28th. 2007.
> > We have also been discussing some Gambian issues on our Leonenet the past
> > few months.
> > This should have been a follow up on Bantaba on which I tried to post this a
> > few seconds ago to no avail. It's on the theme/thread that I started on
> > Chief Hinga Norman. I am still banned and understand that some people must
> > obey orders. Sometimes obeying orders only make things a lot worse of
> > course.
> > http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3167
> > But the subject matter is the same West African political malaise,
> > transgressions of what ought to be justice, transparency, accountability and
> > it's about the helplessness of people trapped in the mire of absolute lack
> > of people power.
> > There will be no further postings on this thread unless someone responds to
> > it.  My blog will soon be accessible to all without any interference from
> > censorship or slavery etc and I do write under my own name. It will be
> > accessible when you will need to spend more than a whole day going through
> > it. When there's a lot of beef on the bone.
> > Yes, as all those who read Macbeth know, death and even murder is always a
> > very sensitive matter, not only for heartless or tearful politicians. We're
> > here involved and of course we are afraid of neither Virginia Woolf nor any
> > of the widowers or grass widowers.
> > Do you remember the Concord Times Interview with Berewa? You remember what
> > he said? His exact words culminating in "I will do every thing that it is
> > right to win but I won't do things that are wrong just to win."?
> > I post these articulate links which are no crime and I do not post in lieu
> > of words that I can myself write, but only in support of what I say, as I
> > was trained to do. (I would post all of Professor Abdul Karim Bangura's
> > readable books if those directly readable links would throw more light on
> > whatever is. I could dispense with these economical links entirely. They are
> > not my crutches, not on the telephone either, or face to face with anyone. I
> > can speak for myself and express myself as well as anyone, whenever I choose
> > to do so about matters that concern not only me.
> > http://www.concordtimessl.com/bintumani.htm
> > http://www.concordtimessl.com/archive.htm
> > I am not yet angry. I am merely waiting for further provocation from Kabbah
> > himself or Berewa.
> > http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=sv&q=The+Life+of+Chief+Hinga+Norman
> > Interesting article here about the Godfather of hypocrisy:
> > http://www.christian-monitor.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=356&Itemid=36
> > Two important issues raised both under the same category of hypocrisy:
> > The first was widely discussed in international legal circles: Kabbah
> > should/ would have taken the witness stand and received a battering from
> > Chief Hinga Norman's defence attorney. He would have received more than a
> > battering if I had been Chief Hinga Norman's lawyer, although I'm quite sure
> > that he would have agreed to other compromise propositions, instead of
> > opting for the case to proceed any further. Few know how much it has cost
> > for it to come to this.
> > I look forward to JLM's take on this:
> > "However, notwithstanding its supremacy and independence, in practice the
> > Special Court does succumb to political manoeuvrings as was evidenced in the
> > case of Norman's petition to have the President testify in his defence. The
> > court ruled against the idea, which to keen observers of the court suggests
> > acquiescence to political pressure if not interference. It followed veiled
> > threats from the corridors of power that if the court rules in favour of
> > Norman, for Kabbah to appear as his witness, the president would go to the
> > Supreme Court, the very court whose powers he had slighted, for it to decide
> > whether the Special Court has the authority to subpoena a sitting president,
> > which would have created a constitutional crisis and put the Special Court
> > in even more crisis. Several months earlier, in the case of the former
> > leader of Liberia, the Special Court ruled against Charles Taylor when he
> > challenged the jurisdiction of the court to indict a sitting head of state,
> > a ruling paradigm that serves as a pointer to the court's unsound judgment
> > while capitulating to political pressure."
> > As for this, it's like - as Malcolm (X) said about asking a man who has no
> > morals to exercise his "moral conscience" Or a hypocrite to reincarnate into
> > Mr. Sincere, or as we hear on CNN so often, for a leopard to change it's
> > spots, or as I read in the Tanach a few days ago, Jeremiah 13.23, "Can a
> > Cushite/ Ethiopian/Moor change his skin colour or a leopard his spots? - So
> > too can you ? in whom evil is ingrained ? do good? " - or - as we say in
> > Sierra Leone, about the thieving chimpanzee, "Monkey noh dae lef im black
> > han"/ a monkey does stop doing its usual tricks.
> > "Similarly, the government would also now try to show their sympathy,
> > belated as it may sound, over the sad loss of Norman and in the process they
> > would endeavour to extricate and distance themselves from the activities of
> > the Special Court and what befell their 'colleague'."
> > Remember the bad treatment that the chief was subjected to immediately after
> > Sierra Leone security forces storming his offices where he sat as a minister
> > of the Interior, a cabinet member of Kabbah's government being first
> > summarily dumped into the darkness and dankness of that mosquito- infested
> > dungeon in Bonthe Sherbro Island, which used to be a slave holders prison,
> > for those unfortunate Africans awaiting deportation to the West, for a
> > lifetime of working and living in slavery.
> > Berewa and Kabbah should continue with their continuity project if it's not
> > too late to change course. Kabbah should not proclaim or confess an
> > ignorance that his High Commissioner Professor Cyril Patrick Foray (who also
> > died) did not have about any phase of the war that Chief Hinga Norman
> > fought.
> >
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