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Mr Kujabi

I am really surprised at your shocking revelations. I find it hard to
believe that Hamjatta Kanteh could have privately sent you such a note as
you now make public. God knows that both you and Hamjatta, if indeed he sent
you that note - which I'm sure he must have meant to be confidential - are
absolutely wrong in presuming that I am attacking him, Ebrima, Cherno Baba
or anyone else on the L. Yes, it is true that I could be very petty, but I'm
not sure I have demonstrated any of my legendary pettiness in my
correspondence with you so far and I'm sure Hamjatta cannot prove that I
have ever been petty to him either.
In any case, as my stories are causing such a great deal of discomfort to
such hard working members of the L as Hamjatta, I hereby declare my
intention to stop posting them on the L. I am thankful to Mr Edward Small
for bringing up those pertinent questions and thus eleiciting such revealing
answers. On a final note, I wish to say that I bear no grudges to anyone. No
hard feelings at all. God bless you all.
Baba


>From: Ansumana Kujabi <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: MR. KNOW-ALL LAYS A PLAN
>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 06:55:59 -0000
>
>EWARD SMALL:
>
>Thanks for your concern and the valuable questions you have raised. I like
>that; this is what a DEMOCRATIC, FAIRER, RESPONSIBLE Forum with SENSE OF
>URGENCY suppose to be like. That is to say, contributors of the Forum MUST
>all learn to AGREE to DISAGREE without tempers flying and decency
>maintained
>at all levels of discussion. And that is what intellectual discussion is
>all
>about. To put this more plainly, WE all MUST be MATURE individuals who love
>and respect each other when it comes to debates, and more significantly, we
>must be able to STRIKE A MEDIUM between our EMOTIONS and MINDS in all our
>endeavors. To that end, I have the tremendous pleasure to provide the
>following ANSWERS to your great questions: Listed below is a quotation from
>BROTHER HAMJATTA KANTEH'S response to my earlier criticism of BABA GALLEH'S
>last week Satire. And as you will soon find out, this answers all of your
>questions 1-4; then you could analyze for your self whether PERSONALLY
>ATTACKING brother HK is the RIGHT and DECENT thing to do without,
>DISCOMFORTING brother HK, and more essentially, IMPINGING on our efforts in
>redoubling efforts to deplete the LETHALNESS of the JAMMEH MAL
>ADMINISTRATION. Here is the quotation:(pls see below quotation for answer
>to
>your question # 5.)
>
>"Ansumana,
>Thanks for this. Baba has a personal problem with certain individuals since
>last year when Cherno Baba, Ebrima Ceesay and i [on a different theme]
>attacked the Independent's editorials. Baba, i gather can be very petty. I
>hope he comes out very open with his grievances. That is the way matured
>peoples act. I delete all these stories he keep sending in because of not
>only the mediocrity in their central themes, but they are such a monotonous
>repetition of vulgar imagination that tis better one avoids them totally.
>If
>you ask me, these stories represent a manifest and marked decline in Baba's
>literary prowess. I mean are you not bored with the hoary "Jantagi" "Afang
>Kangtei" - perhaps that was me with the intended puns. I agree with you
>cafe
>intellectualism is a malaise in our society and it least needed now.
>Ansumana, my dear brother, thanks for your intervention and please do
>ignore
>him or anyone else who wishes to engage you in petty cat fights and
>personality. We must never let our detractors divert our attention from the
>real prize - emptying Jammeh into the dustbin of history."
>
>Hamjatta - Kanteh
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>
>As for the answer to your question # 5, I had read GULLIVER'S TRAVEL when I
>was a sophomore at College. The Gulliver's travel Satire was mostly against
>a particular generation which was written to compare and contrast
>generations and cultures. But unlike the BABA GALLEH SATIRE, it is a
>totally
>distinct Satire which is solely based on SETTLING PERSONAL SCORES, rather
>than pinpointing the HORRIBLE GENERATIONAL and CULTURAL CHANGE currently
>prevailing back home. This is why I have labelled him a "CAFE" and
>DISHONEST
>INTELLECTUAL. I want to clearly state this: Under no circumstances should I
>personally attack Baba, Galleh without bases. what do I gain from that? But
>again, I will say this: I AM ABSOLUTELY COMMITTED TO THE PREVALENCE OF
>HONESTY, TRUTH TELLING, INTEGRITY AND RESPONSIBLE CONTRIBUTIONS ON THE L
>FORUM; AND I WILL NOT IN ANY WAY COMPROMISE THAT STAND. Thank you and GOD
>bless you EWARD SMALL.
>
>Ansumana Kujabi( For truth telling, integrity, honesty and responsible
>writing)
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Edward Small <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: MR. KNOW-ALL LAYS A PLAN
>>Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:06:55 -0000
>>
>>Mr Kujabi
>>I'm beginning to wonder whether you are really your professed democratic
>>self. Clearly, you are hell bent on discouraging Mr Baba Galleh from
>>posting
>>his very interesting pieces on the L. Before going further, let me ask you
>>a
>>few questions:
>>1. Did any member of the L ever tell you that they feel uncomfortable
>>about
>>Mr Jallow's writings, as you insist they do?
>>2. If not, why and how did you come to that conclusion? Do you yourself
>>feel
>>uncomfortable about the satires?
>>3. Why do you insist that these satires are a waste of time and energy?
>>Can't you see that they are so deadly serious?
>>4. Did you not follow Yusupha Jow's analysis of some of how some of the
>>scenes in these satires actually reflect what's going on back home?
>>5. Do you know that some of the greatest literary works of all time are
>>satires? A good example is George Orwell's 'Animal Farm' and '1984'. So is
>>'Gulliver's Travels'. I'm assuming you know these great works.
>>
>>Satire is a literary genre that is hardly utilised in Africa. If we are
>>blessed to have one of our own budding writers developing his talents in
>>this rare field, why not give him a chance?
>>
>>I would have thought that after Mr Jallow's polite answer to your first
>>criticism, and after the explanations by Bamba Laye, Saul Khan, Prince and
>>Ousman Bojang, you would desist for your personal attacks on Mr Jallow.
>>What
>>you are doing, to my mind, is tantamount to the very kind of undemocratic
>>censorship you claim to be fighting in The Gambia.
>>
>>Please Mr Kujabi, live and let live. Give Baba Galleh a break!!!
>>Pa Small
>>
>>>From: Ansumana Kujabi <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>Subject: Re: MR. KNOW-ALL LAYS A PLAN
>>>Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:42:13 -0000
>>>
>>>MR. BABA GALLEH JALLOW:
>>>
>>>You had described my earlier criticism of your SATIRE as brilliant and
>>>acceptable by you, and more importantly, your had not expressed any
>>>frustration about it. I have been very impressed by that, for you have
>>>exercised self restraint, which is the key to a forum discussion. But you
>>>did NOT deny the fact that you are guilty of a CRIME of INTELLECTUAL
>>>DISHONESTY. That is to say, you have been absolutely wasting your
>>>valuable
>>>time, energy and intellect in a sheer quest of providing a persistent
>>>source
>>>of ENTERTAINMENT(as you called) for all constant L forum contributors in
>>>the
>>>form of a SATIRE. But what you deliberately fail to realize, is that
>>>whiles
>>>you tirelessly proceed on  quest to fetch a persistent source of
>>>entertainment for some members of the L forum, you are simultaneously
>>>also
>>>providing a source of DISCOMFORT for other contributors on the forum;
>>>this
>>>is what I was criticizing you for. And to put it bluntly, the provision
>>>of
>>>DISCOMFORT and ENTERTAINMENT, respectively on the forum, is a vivid
>>>illustration of your UNFAIRNESS and UNDEMOCRATIC nature of SATIRIZING,
>>>period.
>>>
>>>Please, do not view my constant criticism of your writings as a PERSONAL
>>>ATTACK on you, or as a plot to tarnish all the very FINE JOB you have
>>>been
>>>doing constantly, but rather as a sheer CHALLENGE to you to effectively
>>>utilize your valuable and focused mind in a more efficient and effective
>>>manner in an attempt to redouble our efforts in our quest for the
>>>restoration of democracy back home. In addition, I have discovered TWO
>>>BABA
>>>GALLEH JALLOWS in you, which NEED to separate from each other if, we the
>>>OPPOSITION, would be able to recoup your profound potentials. And what
>>>are
>>>these two Baba Gallehs: (1) A Baba Galleh Jallow whose brilliance is
>>>undoubted, and has consolidated the ABC of Journalism, and furthermore, a
>>>Baba Galleh Jallow whose work is very neat and always pay attention to
>>>meticulous details in his presentations. (2) But despite, all the
>>>excellent
>>>qualities mentioned above, there is a second Baba Galleh Jallow who is
>>>also
>>>human and often err; and some times tends to drift into "Cafe
>>>Intellectualism" and Intellectual dishonesty, ie by engaging fruitlessly
>>>in
>>>mere SATIRIZING upon SATIRIZING, which is intended against innocent
>>>co-workers of the struggle.
>>>
>>>Not to dwell too much into your negatives, since no man is fallible, my
>>>CENTRAL THEME here is to re-focus your wonderful talents and efforts away
>>>from fruitless Satirizing of your own very good friends(as you have
>>>already
>>>said so), and instead focus on Satirizing about the lethal situation
>>>currently prevailing in The Gambia. My brother, this is my chief
>>>criticism
>>>of your Satires. On that note, Baba Galleh, If this is getting too much,
>>>then I SINCERELY EXTEND TO YOU MY SINCERE APOLOGY. But in any case, I do
>>>stand by my comments.
>>>
>>>Ansumana kujabi.
>>>Concerned Citizen
>>>
>>>
>>>>From: Omar Hatab <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>>>><[log in to unmask]>
>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>Subject: MR. KNOW-ALL LAYS A PLAN
>>>>Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:48:38 -0000
>>>>
>>>>MR. KNOW-ALL LAYS A PLAN
>>>>By Baba Galleh Jallow
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The more famous Mr. Know-All grew, the more ambitious and outspoken he
>>>>grew,
>>>>and the more hungry for more control over our common townsfolk,
>>>>particularly
>>>>the staff of Jahasay Enterprises he became. The desire to know what was
>>>>going on in every nook and cranny of our little town, in every shop and
>>>>store of our business world, and in every unit and department of Jahasay
>>>>Enterprises became a maddening obsession with Rhinehart Soberlook and
>>>>sent
>>>>him hastening frantically to and fro, to and fro, seeking ways and means
>>>>of
>>>>knowing it all.
>>>>On many a night, Rhinehart Soberlook would stay awake, his head
>>>>massively
>>>>wired with networks of thoughts of just how to make sure that he knew
>>>>everything that went on in our little town, in line with his Mr.
>>>>Know-All
>>>>title. He imagined how he would surprise his enemies and opponents by
>>>>suddenly revealing some of their greatest secrets. How they would then
>>>>fear
>>>>and tremble and look at him with horror-filled eyes! How he would smile
>>>>and
>>>>nod and ask them how now then!
>>>>On one such sleepless night, as he stared into the empty darkness of his
>>>>room, a very brilliant idea struck Mr. Know-All’s mind: Set up a special
>>>>information unit at Jahasay Enterprises! Recruit and train staff in the
>>>>art
>>>>and science of general information collection, make them directly
>>>>answerable
>>>>to himself and just unleash them into our little town and within Jahasay
>>>>Enterprises itself. He would call it the Operation See All Unit and make
>>>>it
>>>>known that its job was to engage in market research and analysis so as
>>>>to
>>>>enhance the business of Jahasay Enterprises.
>>>>In reality, Rhinehart Soberlook planned to have all the staff of this
>>>>special new unit swear their strongest oaths of secrecy and allegiance
>>>>to
>>>>him. He would offer them a juicy combination of the fabled carrot and
>>>>the
>>>>stick. Those who did well would be rewarded by rapid promotions and
>>>>nearness
>>>>to the great Mr. Know-All himself, which meant, among other special
>>>>privileges, a bigger and growing pay cheque and a greater opportunity to
>>>>listen to the classy lectures of the learned giant of our little town.
>>>>Alternately, those who failed to deliver would get the immediate sack.
>>>>They
>>>>would be dealt such a metaphorical blow as they would never recover
>>>>from!
>>>>Such was Rhinehart Soberlook’s advanced plan! Such was his magnificent
>>>>vision on that fateful night! Such was the great depth of his wisdom and
>>>>the
>>>>amazing ingenuity of his clever innovation! No wonder our common
>>>>townsfolk
>>>>always burst into tears when they thought just how clever our gentle Mr.
>>>>Know-All was! Hurray, hurray, they would wail. All hail the great Mr.
>>>>Know-All!
>>>>The very next day, Rhinehart Soberlook placed vacancy notices in all the
>>>>media outlets in our little town. Twenty positions available at the
>>>>reputable Jahasay Enterprises. All applicants must sit to an IQ test. No
>>>>current Jahasay employees were eligible to apply. By the three-day
>>>>deadline,
>>>>100 applications had come in. The following week, Mr. Know-All himself
>>>>conducted the test. Of the hundred applicants, 10 got above 50, 40 got
>>>>above
>>>>30, 30 got above 20, and 20 got below 20. Mr. Know-All, in line with his
>>>>special plans for this new unit, drafted the last 20 and told the
>>>>remaining
>>>>80 that they had not passed his test. What he needed was loyalty, not
>>>>intelligence. Step number one.
>>>>
>>>>
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