Ginny,

Here you go again talking in circles repeating the same nonsense and
ascribing people words they have not uttered.

Who ever said Mugabe is a hero let alone because he stood up against the
West? Who?

Get this into your thick skull: We will continue to support Mugabe's and
ZANU-PF's Land Reform Program that has returned stolen land to their
rightful owners, the very reason they took up arms to fight to get their
country back. So if the West launches a campaign of vilification because of
an action that we supported to begin with it is incumbent upon us to
continue to throw light on the issues and reiterate the reasons behind the
lies and obfuscation.

 Whatever someone told you off the list is not our business, argue your case
with him/her.

So who told you any one supports Mugabe simply because he is 'same kind'
(read: Black)?

And the level of ignorance you display comparing Mugabe with Saddam
Hussein or Bin Laden. When was either Saddam or Bin Landen elected in free
and fair elections. And the Lies you tell here about who Mugabe arresting
and killing innocent. Who are they?

Why not try comparing Bush with Stalin or Hitler. Charity begins at home.
What you mean or don't mean won't ever count in Zimbabwe, or Gambia for that
matter. Take your patronising racist shit to the war criminals running your
own country. You cannot love us more than we love ourselves. How can a
stranger at a funeral be more distraught and wail louder than the bereaved?

About arresting and killing innocent people why are you jumping half way
across the world to find examples? Where can you find a better example than
America? Close to a million and counting Iraqis have lost their lives
because of the criminal acts of George Bush and the American ruling elite.

And just who is it that is asking you to support Mugabe and what makes you
think that is so important?

The Land! That's what's it's all about. That's why we have all these lies
spread by people who are themselves responsible for the murder of millions
of poor people worldwide.

If you think that you can come here and accuse people of hypocrisy and what
not and get away with it you are even more ignorant than I had imagined.

Kabir.





On 7/18/07, Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Perhaps it is a private citizen who filed the compalint, however it
> sure didn't stop Mugabe and the Herald from seizing on it, which,
> well, we all know this is common in politics.  However, that was *not*
> my point.  I guess if some want to continue to make Mugabe out to be
> some kind of hero, who is never wrong, who never makes mistakes, etc.,
> etc., all because he is "against the West", even though he is partly
> responsible for the mess that Zimbabwe is in, and also for the deaths
> of thousands of his fellow countrymen, etc.  I don't put the world
> into blac-and-white "us versus them" terms because the world just
> doesn't work like that!  The UK, the US, and other countries perhaps,
> are and have been meddling in Zimbabwe's affairs, trying to
> destabilize the government, because, well, take your pick of reasons.
> However, if anyone says that "that caused Mugabe to just lash out and
> do some things he should have done", or something to that affect, and
> thereby make excuses for him, that is crazy to me!  So "the West" is
> trying to interfere in his affairs, and let's just say that maybe
> *some* peole are involved in this campaign of destabilization, as
> so-called colaborators.  So you think they deserve to be killed?  What
> about the innocent people who were accused of being colaborators?
> Just becuase the opposed Mugabe?
>
>
> See, this is the gray area I'm talking about!  Because all Mugabe has
> to do is use "colaboration" with the West as an excuse and then he cam
> go on another oppression and killing spree, or whatever it is he wants
> to do.  And I'd like for someone to tell me how that is a good thing!?
>
>
> Somoene mentioned to me off this list that Mugabe was once the
> "darling of the West", and now they are trying to destablize him,
> however, how many others has that happened to?  Ben Laden, Saddam
> Hussein, just to name two.  But does that give them the excuse to
> oppress and kill innocent people, as well as to enrich themselves and
> to do whatever they can to stay in power!?
>
>
> I don't agree with "the West's" attempts to meddle in other countries
> affairs, and I also think that they have had a detrimental afect on
> Zimbabwe, however, so has Mugabe!  And htus, Mugabe is not a hero to
> me, just 'cause he figuratively told the West where to go!  Gosh, if
> that is all it takes to make someone a hero to some of you, what
> simple minds!
>
>
> This reminds me of hte people I've come across who said we should
> support Saddam 'cause he's a Muslim" and Ben Laden 'cause he's our
> Muslim brohter and the west is after him", or something like that.
> And why!?  Just 'cause he's part of "our" group, whether it's
> Africans, Muslims, blakc people in gneeral!?
>
>
> I, for one, don't support someone just becuase they happen to be of
> the same "group" as me, whether it be gender, race, blindness,
> religion, whatever!
>
> What is right is right, what is worng is wrong!  If it is wrong for
> Jammeh to kill and opress his own people, then it is wrong for Mugabe
> to do it!  If Mugabe can use the west as an excuse, then why can't
> Jammeh!?  How can we spend days talking about Yahya Jammeh, and how he
> needs to be stopped, yet not even want to say anything when Mugabe
> does the same sorts of things!?
>
>
> Ginny
>
>
>
> On 7/18/07, SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > brother kabir thanks for that. i was responding to the continous blaming
> of
> > mugabe. the case was file by an ordinary citizen ,fine. they make it
> seems
> > as if it the government pursuing the case. good clarification.
> >
> > Kabir Njaay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  Suntou,
> >
> > Just to set the record straight, Mugabe or the government of Zimbabwe
> has
> > nothing to do with this case.
> >
> > This is a civil case raised by by an ordinary citizen against the holy
> man
> > for an alleged affair with his wife.
> >
> > Mugabe is just the white feathered guy on the block, if there was an
> > earthquake in Zimbabwe today, God forbid, you'll hear them blaming it on
> > Mugabe's dictatorial rule.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kabir.
> >
> >
> > On 7/18/07, SUNTOU TOURAY wrote:
> > >
> > > ginny ,we are living in a world of flesh eating. the arcbishop never
> go
> > > easy on mugabe so why should mugabe go easy on him ? tit for tat .the
> > > archbishop should remember his reputation and standing ,no one is
> perfect
> > > but to act appropriately is the best self help tool kit. he is
> oppossing
> > the
> > > president and you expect the president to turn a blind eye to mr
> > > archhbishops shame ? or no .
> > > that generation is no more .from the west to africa ,we shock each
> others
> > > blood .from tabloid news papers to broad sheets ,they do a bit of
> > character
> > > assination. it is the turn of the archbishop ,so let him come out
> brave
> > and
> > > say ,i am sorry for what i did .period.
> > >
> > > Ginny Quick wrote:
> > > Well, it sure doesn't help that Mr. Ncube, has engaged in this affair,
> > > at least for his credibility, anyway. However, I'm sure that Mugabe,
> > > et al, didn't waste any time in seizing on this opportunity to "shame"
> > > Ncube. Wonder what would have happened if Ncube was a member of the
> > > ruling party? Would there be editorials in The Herald talking of
> > > "hsaming" him? OK, yeah, yeah, hypothetical situations and all of
> > > that.
> > >
> > >
> > > As far as him calling Mugabe a murderer and a monster, I've got two
> > > words, Gukurahundi Campaign (oh but I guess the West made that up in
> > > order to tarnish Robert Mugabe's image or osmething).
> > >
> > >
> > > This whole issue with Zimbabwe is not a black-and-white thing, at
> > > least not from what I've read, and yes, I've read, so no hand slapping
> > > talking aobut how I don't know what I'm talking aobut!
> > >
> > >
> > > While "the West", whatever entity that happens to be htis week, could
> > > well be on a campaign ti destablizie Zimbabwe, Robert Mugabe is not
> > > helping matters by turning on his own people and using the
> > > justification that "they are just colaborators with the West" to do it
> > > either.
> > >
> > >
> > > Gosh, if Mugabe can use "the West" as an excuse for his behavior,
> > > who's to stop other dictarors and despots from doing the same thing?
> > > Yahya Jammeh anyone?
> > >
> > >
> > > Perhaps Mugabe is educated, yes, perhaps "he was good during his early
> > > days", or whatever, perhaps he fought for Zimbabw'es independnece,
> > > however, where does that give him a pass to kill, murder and oprress
> > > his own people? That's the one thing I've been not able to
> > > understand. The way some people want to make him out to be a hero, or
> > > to overlook his abuses of his own people, along with his attempts to
> > > entrench himself in power, reminds me of how some used to treat Saddam
> > > Hussein. Like "oh yes he's bad but he really cares about his people"
> > > or whatever, all while he's murdering, gassing, etc. So back to
> > > Mugabe, "oh he's standing up to the bad evil west" "he's standing up
> > > tothe white man", etc., etc., etc., but what about his fellow
> > > Zimbabweans that don't agree with his policies!? Don't they deserve
> > > to be able to express that, and not be called colaborators, etc.?
> > >
> > >
> > > We can sit here and complain of the sycofancy that we see regarding
> > > Jammeh, but what of the sycofancy that we see toward others, like,
> > > well, Mugabe? It's as though because he's deemed as a "hero" to some,
> > > that it seems OK, for him to do some, but maybe not all, of the things
> > > that Yahya Jammeh does, and yet Mugabe is, for some reason, given a
> > > pass!
> > >
> > >
> > > I find htat to be hypocritical, to have osme of the same people that
> > > come and talk about Yahya Jammeh, to act as if people are lying or
> > > odn't know what they're talking about or to say "you're just a stooge
> > > of the West" when people bring up the fact that Mugabe has been
> > > responsible for the murder and oppression of some of his own people!
> > > Why is it OK for Mugabe and not Yahya Jammeh? The West has had their
> > > hands in African affairs for how long? Yet, we don't see people
> > > saying "oh so and so is standing up to them but that is OK"? How is
> > > murdering your own people and not letting them speak freely "stanidng
> > > up tot he West"? That is what I want to know!
> > >
> > >
> > > Ginny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/17/07, Kabir Njaay wrote:
> > > > *Pius Ncube Shamed*
> > > >
> > > > http://allafrica.com/stories/200707170131.html**
> > > > **
> > > > *The Herald* (Harare)
> > > >
> > > > OPINION
> > > >
> > > > 17 July 2007
> > > >
> > > > Posted to the web 17 July 2007
> > > >
> > > > By Munyaradzi Huni
> > > >
> > > > Bulawayo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Archbishop sued for adultery OUTSPOKEN Roman Catholic cleric
> Archbishop
> > > Pius
> > > > Ncube of the Bulawayo Diocese is at the centre of a stinging
> adulterous
> > > > allegation that has plunged him into a $20 billion lawsuit,
> following
> > > claims
> > > > that he had an affair with a married woman over the past two years.
> > > >
> > > > Under Roman Catholic Church practice, all those joining the
> priesthood
> > > or
> > > > nunhood -- including archbishops, brothers and sisters -- take
> strict
> > > vows
> > > > of celibacy, meaning they should maintain an unmarried status, and,
> > > thus,
> > > > abstain from sexual relations.
> > > >
> > > > A visibly shaken Archbishop Ncube, who has been at the forefront
> > > demonising
> > > > President Mugabe and the Government, was served with the declaration
> and
> > > > summons yesterday morning by the Deputy Sheriff of Bulawayo.
> > > >
> > > > At the High Court, the case is recorded under HC1585/07.
> > > >
> > > > The papers show that Archbishop Ncube had an adulterous affair with
> Mrs
> > > > Rosemary Sibanda, who has been legally married to Mr Onesimus
> Sibanda
> > > since
> > > > 2005.
> > > >
> > > > When contacted for comment, Mrs Sibanda first denied any knowledge
> of
> > > the
> > > > affair but when she was shown pictures of her taken in the
> Archbishop's
> > > > bedroom while naked, she admitted having an adulterous affair with
> > > > Archbishop Ncube for the past two years.
> > > >
> > > > In one of the many pictures, a naked Archbishop Ncube is seen
> cuddling
> > > an
> > > > equally naked Mrs Sibanda in his bedroom.
> > > >
> > > > The Archbishop was also pictured in the act with several other women
> in
> > > the
> > > > supposedly holy bedroom.
> > > >
> > > > The usually arrogant Archbishop Ncube went ashen, was at a loss of
> words
> > > and
> > > > could hardly contain the shock when he was shown the same pictures
> that
> > > were
> > > > secretly taken by a private investigator hired by the woman's
> husband.
> > > >
> > > > In his declaration served through his lawyers Dube-Banda,
> Nzarayapenga
> > > and
> > > > Partners, the plaintiff, Mr Sibanda, a radio communications
> technician
> > > with
> > > > the National Railways of Zimbabwe, alleged that on different
> occasions
> > > since
> > > > January 2006, Archbishop Ncube was involved in an adulterous sexual
> > > > relationship with his wife.
> > > >
> > > > Reads part of the declaration: "On diverse occasions between the
> period
> > > > beginning 2006 and in places particularly in the environs of
> Bulawayo
> > > and St
> > > > Mary's Cathedral, defendant illicitly associated and engaged with
> > > > plaintiff's wife, one Rosemary Sibanda, in an adulterous sexual
> > > relationship
> > > > well knowing of the marital status of the plaintiff's wife.
> > > >
> > > > "As a direct result of the defendant's illicit and adulterous
> > > association
> > > > with the plaintiff's wife, the plaintiff has lost the love, comfort
> and
> > > > society that he previously enjoyed with his wife. Plaintiff has been
> > > > seriously humiliated, his dignity has been impaired, his religious
> > > > inclinations and faith shaken and he has suffered loss of consortium
> as
> > > he
> > > > has had serious problems with his wife since January 2006.
> > > >
> > > > "Owing to the illicit and adulterous association, the plaintiff
> suffered
> > > > damages as follows: $10 000 000 000 being adultery damages as the
> > > defendant
> > > > has abused his trust and position and engaged in an adulterous
> > > relationship
> > > > with plaintiff's wife despite full knowledge that she was married.
> The
> > > > marriage was solemnised in the Roman Catholic Church; $5 000 000 000
> > > being
> > > > loss of consortium; and $5 000 000 000 being loss of contumelia.
> > > >
> > > > "Wherefore plaintiff prays for an order for payment of the sum of
> $20
> > > 000
> > > > 000 000, being damages for adultery, contumelia and loss of
> consortium
> > > > suffered by plaintiff as a result of the defendant's illicit and
> > > adulterous
> > > > affair with plaintiff's wife," reads the declaration.
> > > >
> > > > The summons at the High Court read: "Plaintiff claims as against
> > > defendant
> > > > are for:
> > > >
> > > > "(a) An order for payment in the sum of $20 000 000 000 (twenty
> billion
> > > > dollars), being damages for adultery, contumelia and loss of
> consortium
> > > in
> > > > respect of defendant's unlawful, malicious and illicit association
> with
> > > > plaintiff's wife well knowing of plaintiff's wife's marital status,
> the
> > > > result of which was the alienation of love, loss of comfort and
> society
> > > in
> > > > the marriage between plaintiff and his wife.
> > > >
> > > > (b) An order for payment of interest at the prescribed rate on the
> sum
> > > of
> > > > $20 000 000 000 mentioned in (a) . . . from date of service summons
> to
> > > date
> > > > of full and final payment.
> > > >
> > > > (c) An order for payment of costs of suit at an attorney and client
> > > scale."
> > > >
> > > > Archbishop Ncube was asked to enter an appearance to defend within
> 10
> > > days
> > > > at the High Court in Bulawayo.
> > > >
> > > > If the Archbishop fails to do so within the stipulated time, the
> claims
> > > by
> > > > the plaintiff will be heard and dealt with by the High Court without
> > > further
> > > > notice to the Archbishop.
> > > >
> > > > Following the interest that was shown by the media in the matter,
> the
> > > lawyer
> > > > representing the plaintiff, Mr Munyaradzi Nzarayapenga of
> Dube-Banda,
> > > > Nzarayapenga and Partners, addressed a Press conference at his
> offices
> > > where
> > > > he confirmed that his client had asked him to serve Archbishop Ncube
> > > with
> > > > the summons.
> > > >
> > > > "For a long time my client has been suspecting that his wife, a
> senior
> > > > church committee representative at St Pius Parish, has been involved
> in
> > > an
> > > > adulterous relationship with the Archbishop of the Diocese, Pius
> Ncube.
> > > >
> > > > "At one point he wrote to Archbishop Pius Ncube to register his
> > > displeasure.
> > > > The Archbishop wrote back denying any adultery with my client's
> lawful
> > > wife.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "My client has uncovered evidence that suggests that the Archbishop
> of
> > > the
> > > > Roman Catholic Bulawayo Diocese, Archbishop Pius Ncube, is having an
> > > > adulterous relationship with his wife, Rosemary Sibanda, a secretary
> of
> > > the
> > > > St Anne's Association of St Pius Church in Njube, Bulawayo.
> > > >
> > > > "My client has instructed and we have issued summons against the
> > > Archbishop
> > > > for causing my client untold suffering, pain, loss of companionship,
> > > etc.
> > > >
> > > > "I can confirm that the Deputy Sheriff of Bulawayo has already
> served
> > > the
> > > > summons and declaration to the Archbishop," said the lawyer.
> > > >
> > > > Mr Sibanda looked pensive as he sat next to his lawyer at the Press
> > > > conference.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 7/17/07, OMAR DRAMMEH wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Zimbabwe's archbishop accused of adultery
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris McGreal, Africa correspondent
> > > > > Tuesday July 17, 2007
> > > > >
> > > > > Guardian
> > > > >
> > > > > Zimbabwe's Roman Catholic archbishop, Pius Ncube, a strident
> critic of
> > > > > Robert Mugabe's rule, was accused yesterday of a two-year
> adulterous
> > > > affair
> > > > > with a secretary at his church in a lawsuit that his lawyers
> described
> > > as
> > > > > politically motivated.
> > > > > But Archbishop Ncube declined to explicitly deny the affair when
> he
> > > spoke
> > > > > to the Guardian yesterday.
> > > > >
> > > > > In legal papers served on the archbishop in Bulawayo, Onesisums
> > > Sibanda is
> > > > > demanding 20bn Zimbabwe dollars (£80,000) in damages from the
> cleric
> > > for
> > > > the
> > > > > alleged adultery with his wife, Rosemary. The state-run Zimbabwe
> > > > > Broadcasting Corporation said Ms Sibanda, who worked at St Mary's
> > > > Cathedral,
> > > > > admitted the affair in an interview.
> > > > >
> > > > > ZBC followed court officials into the archbishop's office in a
> move
> > > that
> > > > > his lawyers said was evidence of an orchestrated attempt to
> destroy
> > > his
> > > > > credibility because of his virulent criticism of the government,
> > > including
> > > > > calling Mr Mugabe a murderer and a monster.
> > > > >
> > > > > But the archbishop, speaking to the Guardian yesterday, declined
> to
> > > deny
> > > > > the affair, even though he was asked three times if there was any
> > > merit to
> > > > > the accusation. He said he would wait for the matter to come to
> court
> > > and
> > > > > that the accusations were politically motivated.
> > > > >
> > > > > "You see these people are always following me and trying to find
> > > something
> > > > > to try and fix me," he said. "There were a dozen news men
> accompanying
> > > > this
> > > > > man [Mr Sibanda] to the court and then they splashed this before
> even
> > > > giving
> > > > > me the summons."
> > > > >
> > > > > Adultery is illegal, although rarely prosecuted, in Zimbabwe.
> > > > >
> > > > > The accusation comes a week after Archbishop Ncube returned from
> South
> > > > > Africa, where he launched a report that accused the Zimbabwean
> state
> > > of
> > > > > torture and illegal killings. "Mugabe is a man who is a
> megalomaniac.
> > > He
> > > > > loves power, he lives for power. Even his own party is appealing
> to
> > > him to
> > > > > step down," he said in Johannesburg.
> > > > >
> > > > > The archbishop has been forced to qualify some of his stronger
> > > statements,
> > > > > including a call to Christians in Zimbabwe to pray for Mr Mugabe
> to
> > > die.
> > > > >
> > > > > For several years he was at odds with most of his own bishops in
> his
> > > > > strident criticism of the government, but in recent months the
> > > archbishop
> > > > > galvanised them into issuing a letter read in churches that
> likened
> > > > popular
> > > > > opposition to Mr Mugabe's "racist, corrupt and lawless" government
> to
> > > the
> > > > > country's liberation war against white rule.
> > > > >
> > > > > Zimbabwe's president has described him as a "half-wit".
> > > > >
> > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > From: Kabir Njaay [[log in to unmask]]
> > > > > > Sent: 2007-07-17 16:14:14 CEST
> > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > Subject: Fwd; Vlok to Be Charged Over Chikane
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Vlok to Be Charged Over Chikane*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://allafrica.com/stories/200707170159.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *Business Day* (Johannesburg)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > NEWS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 17 July 2007
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Posted to the web 17 July 2007
> > > > > >
> > > > > > By Ernest Mabuza
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Johannesburg
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FORMER law and order minister Adriaan Vlok, former police
> > > commissioner
> > > > > Johan
> > > > > > van der Merwe and three other men would be charged with the
> > > attempted
> > > > > murder
> > > > > > of Frank Chikane, a former anti-apartheid activist and now
> > > > > director-general
> > > > > > in the Presidency, the National Prosecuting Agency said
> yesterday.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is the first case of prosecution of apartheid-era
> atrocities in
> > > > > which
> > > > > > alleged perpetrators were denied amnesty by the Truth and
> > > Reconciliation
> > > > > > Commission or did not seek amnesty, and it follows an amended
> > > > > prosecution
> > > > > > policy drafted last year to deal with such people. More than
> 7000
> > > > > petitions
> > > > > > were received and 849 people were granted amnesty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Agency spokesman Panyaza Lesufi said the five were due to appear
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > Pretoria High Court next month to explain their roles in the
> > > attempted
> > > > > > murder in 1989. In 2004, Vlok and four others were to stand
> trial
> > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > attempted murder but the case was withdrawn as the agency did
> not
> > > have
> > > > > > guidelines on how to proceed with truth commission cases.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vlok did not admit to poisoning Chikane at the commission, but
> > > sought
> > > > > > amnesty for the bombings of Khotso House and the South African
> > > Catholic
> > > > > > Bishops' Conference headquarters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vlok met Chikane last August and washed his feet, seeking
> > > forgiveness
> > > > > for
> > > > > > past deeds. Chikane said that while he accepted Vlok's gesture,
> he
> > > > > wanted
> > > > > > the law to take its course regarding the attempts on his life.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lesufi also announced the National Prosecuting Agency found the
> > > remains
> > > > > of
> > > > > > what were believed to be the bodies of the "Pe bco Three" in
> Cradock
> > > > > last
> > > > > > Thursday. Sipho Hashe, Champion Galela and Qaqawuli Godolozi of
> the
> > > Port
> > > > > > Elizabeth Black Civic Organisation disappeared from an airport
> in
> > > Port
> > > > > > Elizabeth in 1985.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The late former security policeman Gideon Niewoudt said their
> bodies
> > > > > were
> > > > > > burnt and thrown into the Fish River.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lesufi said the remains of three bodies were found in a septic
> tank.
> > > > > >
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