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Prince Obrien-Coker <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr. Jawara,

From what I can understand in your posting, this forum is an anti-Jammeh
media and that to criticise Jammeh is uncalled for. I have not been long a
member of this List, but since I have been a member I can hardly recall when
someone has posted something negative about Gambian democracy. I think Mr.
Jawara has confused CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTY with DEMOCRACY.
Democracy as enshrined in all the books, in my opinion, has not changed
since the 1966 referendum, what has changed and considerably too, is the
misappropriation of the contents of the document, especially when directed
against the average Gambian. Human and Civil Liberties are two properties
endowed on HUMAN BEINGS by the Creator and nobody should attempt to deprive
them of that. The mood of the forum would have been different had the
actuality been otherwise.
You implored the forum in your first paragraph not to criticise Jammeh, yet
in your last paragraph you think to rectify him is the best way to help him.
How can you rectify somebody you are not suppose to criticise? The only way
I, or any Gambian of the Cyber-community can help The Gambia is to criticise
Jammeh. I am neither pro- nor anti-Jammeh. I am for Gambia. My reaction
would not have been different had the Chief policy maker been Pateh, Samba
or Kumba.

Your sixth paragraph tends to propagate Jammeh's policies. You Wrote:
"The future for Africa lies in education, empowerment and employment of our
enormous
physical and human resources to generate poverty - reducing economic growth.
This can
only be acheived through efficient socio - economic policies, and not by the
stuggle for power,
intolerance and distrust, which is bringing Africa to ruin."

Well brother, if that is what you believe in, then The Gambia does not need
you, or anybody for that matter, because Yaya Jammeh is doing fine in that
aspect. The Gambia does not need "efficient socio-economic policies" that
would "generate poverty and reduce economic growth."  Aren't we poor enough?
Economic declination is not our goal.
If you are some political science student looking for material for an essay
or a thesis, I would sincerely advise you to address your mail to Dr. Saine
and some other "Docs" on the Forum. I am sure they will be of more help to
you than those who are on another agenda.

Prince Coker
----- Original Message -----
From: "salomon jawara" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 6:15 PM
Subject: Dr. Saine: Democracy.


Dear Dr. Saine,

According to my observation, there has being an overwhelming criticism of
Yaya Jammeh
particularly on the Gambia L that i still have difficulty understanding,
knowing that there´s
no genuine democracy anywhere in this world.  Most of  the criticism based
on the
deficiency of democracy i think is dispensable. I want to share with you a
question and
would  be obliged in acquiring an answer from you.
Is the Western style democracy really suitable for Africa?

We need to understand that democracy cannot be packaged and exported like
every other
commodity. The rule of law  and civil / human / citizenship rights which
while being
meaningful  in the context of the history of Europe, are essentially
meaningless when applied
in rural Africa where the mojority of people live.

I think Africa´s situation of social and economic under development has to
be more than to
democracy than a multi party system and periodic elections.  Western style
democracy could only have full meaning  for ordinary Africans if they
simultaniously led to
the creation of conditions for the improvment of their livelihood. Looking
back wards to
Jawara´s thirty years of democratic, this hasn´t gained any effects.

A disproposionate amount of resources and lives have been wasted for decades
in the
fight for Western style democracy in Africa.  The struggle and rule by
democracy like wise
authoritarian have both produced resurgence in the ethnic and religious
identities.
Almost all African social scientistss´  notion of democracy are heavily
influenced by those
developed out of the African historical and cultural perspective, but in the
West.

In creating an African democracy, it should be a product of local entities
based on their
history. Our civil society in Africa is more complex than we thought,
comprising of
groups calling for a  western style democracy, antidemocratic forces, and
different ethnic
groups. But with the help of our social scientists, an effective African
democracy can be
moulded without the risk for misinterpretation, which can sometimes course
devastating
consequences.

The future for Africa lies in education, empowerment and employment of our
enormous
physical and human resources to generate poverty - reducing economic growth.
This can
only be acheived through efficient socio - economic policies, and not by
the stuggle for power,
intolerance and distrust, which is bringing Africa to ruin.

The Jammeh regime undoubtedly has some defects, but there is no truely
genuine democracy
on the face of this earth yet. I think  Africa has alot to learn from Asia,
and our social scientists
including interlectuals  still has alot to do. The course of African
importation of western ideas,
ways of doing things and cultures ( European civilising mision to Africa),
has so much impact
opon us, that we tend to loosen up in creating and establishing our own. And
this exportation
is continuing through different refinements, to this day.
Let us Africans exercise awareness, love and tolerance for each other. This
includes every one,
from the leaders to the farmers.

I personally have no animosity against Mr. Jammeh, but i think one should be
tolerant towards
him and try help him rectify some of his mistakes, instead of all the
negativity against him.
You cannot rectify a wrong with a wrong.

Thanks for sharing !
Saul S.Jawara.






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