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Hello Ginny,

The elections are today.  The AfPRC head continues to violate election
rules. All well-meaning opposition hands are or should have been on deck
to support and vote for the increase of the opposition numbers in the
National Assembly.

Please, do not insist on working from a lie, which the piece was.  The
Observer Newspaper, during election times, observing and reporting what?
How to help the AfPRC win at all cost, turning our country into the
....dom that Yaya wants?

Who is giving Waa a pass or making excuses for him?  When Waa Juwara
decides to go after anyone, it is direct and leaves no one in the dark
about whom he is going after.  I agree with you, nothing justifies
supporting the AfPRC party.

Regards,
Soffie

-----Original Message-----
From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ginny Quick
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:32 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!

Hello, I find it interesting that Wa Juwara could be given a pass, as it
were, and / or that people seem to be making excuses for him.  What if
Wa Juwara wasn't still in the NADD alliance?  Would people be so quick
to either deny the allegations, or say, "Oh, well, he's just trying to
get back at the UDP", etc.  I'd think that any allegation that Wa Juwara
was campaigning for a candidate from an opposing party, while still
being a member of NADD, is well, serious.  Why couldn't he just have ran
for himself, if the story is true that he is campaigning for the APRC
candidate, and the reason is to get back at UDP, as it were, if he
wanted to get back at them so much, then why couldn't he have just ran
for office himself?  Why seemingly leave your own party and campaign for
the APRC?


    I don't think anything justifies supporting this party, especially
coming from someone who has often spoken out against the APRC.  I'd
guess that it would be one thing if Wa Juwara was not a member of any
party, then he could do whatever he wants, but he is still a member of
NADD.


    Anyway, bringing up the UDP still doesn't address the "if" and the
"why" of this story.  If it is true that this is indeed happening, then
why.  And him trying to settle a score with the UDP is to me a bad
excuse!


    If UDP engages in what some consider to be bad behavior, then why
should members of NADD engage in the same?  If NADD and their supporters
keep talking about charting a new way for Gambians, keep talking about
changing the structure of government for the better, than what does it
say when one of their members decides to settle old scores with parties
he was previously involved in by campaigning for the ruling party?  So
much for being the change and new hope for Gambians.  Seems like
business as usual to me.


     And if this was anyone else, we'd be talking about how he'd do
anything for his own self-interest, we'd be digging up past quotes of
his pronouncements against the APRC, and we'd thump our chests and say
how much better we are, how much more principled we are, because *we*,
would never stoop to such a low!


     But because it's Wa Juwara, because he's still a emmber of NADD, we
try to make excuses for him, try to rubbish the story even while the
APRC candidate himself is coming and saying that the story is true, and
then finding flimsy reasons for why Wa Juwara is doing this, and
continuing to blame the UDP for just about everything under the sun.
But Wa Juwara's grievances with the UDP go back before NADD, so again,
the excuse thatt his is just his way of getting back at the UDP just
doesn't work for me.  And again, making this excuse implies that this is
true.  And if it is, why couldn't he just be honest and say why he was
doing this?


Ginny



On 1/24/07, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Joe
>
>   You wrote:
>
>   The title "THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!" speaks volumes.  Our struggle is 
> not about individuals, but the plight of our country.  If the voters 
> should choose or reject Halifa, Sidia, Hamat, Kemeseng, etc., they 
> will live with that choice, rubberstamp or not.  I hope the opposition

> increase their representation and for once, we need to quit the 
> hypocrisy, for it takes us no where.
>
>   Well my brother, you have to realise that the APRC's propaganda 
> machine-Daily Observer has come up with a rebuttal to Waa's remarks on

> the Point Newspaper. Therefore, the onus lies on Waa to take another 
> step by bringing a libel suit against the Daily Observer. Moreover, I 
> wonder why Waa cannot hold a Press Conference and address the latest 
> allegations made by the Daily Observer.
>
>   Finally, I note your reference to the three-way contest taking place

> at Halifa's constituency. Unlike the latest on Waa, I am yet to hear 
> of any allegations that a UDP  bigwig is endorsing Sainey Jaiteh's
candidature.
>
>   Chi Jaama
>
>   Sanusi
>
>
>
>
> Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>   Musa, at this stage of the game, it matters zilch to attempt to 
> debate this non-issue. It is how many seats the opposition can win, 
> that I am concerned about. Those that refuse to contest tactically 
> gave us a promise that they will sweep the polls and do not need 
> tactical anything. They also promised that Halifa will be defeated and

> have their energies towards that. That is the real story here. They 
> can bring Waa as a subject, but ignore the pettiness and 
> vindictiveness of the UDP, that is going to cost Gambians, again. If 
> Waa was with the APRC, would the APRC not broadcast that on GRTS
> 24/7 and for the rest of the campaign? Am glad they expose their short

> sightedness and lack of vision, yet, again. Yes, the voters will 
> decide who they want to represent them. Kemeseng was with NADD and now

> he is running under the UDP ticket. Those Gambians with balanced 
> thinking would agree that he should be supported to retain that seat, 
> and NADD stated that openly, and that is the prudent thing to do. How 
> come Waa is not being accused of campaigning against Kemeseng? We need
to stop this foolishness.
> It is about INCREASING OPPOSITION REPRESENTATION" in the Assembly,
stupid!
> The title "THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!" speaks volumes. Our struggle is not

> about individuals, but the plight of our country. If the voters should

> choose or reject Halifa, Sidia, Hamat, Kemeseng, etc., they will live 
> with that choice, rubberstamp or not. I hope the opposition increase 
> their representation and for once, we need to quit the hypocrisy, for 
> it takes us no where.
>
>
> Chi Jaama
>
> Joe
>
>
> >From: Musa Jeng
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: THE TRUTH UNCOVERED!!!
> >Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 03:36:15 +0000
> >
> >Ginny:
> >
> >It is interesting that sometimes in politics you will see strange 
> >bedfellows. As I read this thread - the truth uncovered, it really 
> >amuses me and only reinforces the hypocrisy we sometimes find 
> >ourselves in. I am willing to believe that maybe Waa Juwara would 
> >rather see the APRC candidate win against the UDP candidate, of 
> >course I do not know that for a fact, but that in itself does not 
> >make him an APRC. I am also willing to go out on a limp and say that
the majority of UDP supporters, including Mr.
> >Darboe would love to see Halifa looses his seat and deny NADD any 
> >chance of winning a seat in the national assembly, even if it means 
> >having an APRC National Assembly. Again, that does not make him or 
> >UDP supporters become APRC. Remember NADD call for an Alliance to 
> >work with all oppostion parties against the APRC, and UDP did not 
> >answer to this call. As the Chairman of the STGDP, we have made 
> >reaching out and took steps to facilitate a tactical alliance ,and 
> >could not get any kind of  commitment from the UDP. MAybe, it is an 
> >unfair statement to make, but I personally believe that the UDP's 
> >mission in this election is to settle scores with NADD. It should not

> >be a surprise if Waa Juwara and some NADD supporters wish the same
thing towards the UDP.
> >
> >Let us all stop the hypocrisy, and accept that these past three years

> >in the run to the presidential elections, there are certain realities

> >that can ever be pushed away under the rug.
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Musa JEng
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >From: Ginny Quick
> > > OK, so someone here is not telling the truth, whether it's Wa 
> > > Juwara or the APRC candidate, I don't know, but what I do know is 
> > > that this has nothing to do with the UDP? Why bring them up in all

> > > of this? It would be one thing if someone from the UDP went and 
> > > said, "Hey, look, Wa Juwara is campaigning for the APRC." Then,
you might have a point!
> > > However, it is the APRC candidate himself that is making this 
> > > charge, not anyone from the UDP, as far as I am aware!
> > >
> > >
> > > I understand that some people are upset that the UDP / NRP has put

> > > up a candidate in Halifa Sallah's district, but making a point of 
> > > bringing this up, in reference to Wa Juwara, why do this?
> > >
> > >
> > > If there is still a NADD, and Wa Juwara is still a part of said 
> > > NADD, then someone really definitively needs to get to the bottom 
> > > of this! I'd imagine that finding out the truth of the matter 
> > > wouldn't be too hard.
> > >
> > >
> > > Ginny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 1/23/07, pasamba jow
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sanusi,
> > > > Waa has rubbished this mendacious story in his interview with 
> > > > both
> >the
> > > > point and the freedom newspaper. The real truth is the UDP's
> >vindictive and
> > > > petty politics of let's get Halifa lose his seat.
> > > > Pasamba Jow
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sanusi Owens wrote:
> > > > Well, it now looks as if the APRC will soon form an "alliance" 
> > > > with
> >Waa
> > > > Juwara. Anway, I only hope this is just a mere propaganda.
> > > >
> > > > Waa Juwara supports APRC candidate' Written by Pa Malick Faye 
> > > > Tuesday,
> >23
> > > > January 2007 On tour
> > > > Essa Saidykhan, the APRC candidate for Niamina Dankunku 
> > > > constituency,
> >has
> > > > said that Mr Lamin Waa Juwara of the opposition NADD alliance, 
> > > > has
> >expressed
> > > > his support for his candidature in the forthcoming National 
> > > > Assembly elections slated for January 25.
> > > >
> > > > Mr Saidykhan, made this revelation recently at an APRC meeting 
> > > > held in
> >the
> > > > area as part of the party's tour of the country ahead of the
> >parliamentary
> > > > polls. According to him, Mr Juwara has been campaigning for him 
> > > > in the
> >area
> > > > during his sojourn in Dankunku.
> > > > He also revealed that Mr Juwara also had discussions with some 
> > > > APRC stalwarts in the area amongst whom included Alhagie Kebba 
> > > > Ceesay,
> >former NIA
> > > > Director General, Alagie Sulayman Keita, former commissioner NBR

> > > > and
> >Mr
> > > > Lamin Nyabally Parmanent Secretary, Department of State for
Works.
> > > > Mr Saidykhan expressed confidence in sweeping the polls in 
> > > > Thursday's elections as according to him, the people of the area

> > > > are firmly
> >behind him.
> > > >
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