Hamjatta, your attitude is a classical case of intellectual dishonesty. Your
insistence on misquotations is the very essence of my argument , ever since
your started on Marx, with all his writings on History, Economics,
Philosophy and Science in general, you did not come with a single posting of
relevance about the essence of the work of such a great thinker all you do
is quoting out of context and make misleading inferences, this is typical of
people who just shout on top of their voices seeking attention, but if you
are a serious debater we should dwell into the teachings of this great
thinker a find out what his teachings were about and how relevant to the
needs of our times they are but a petty G-l surfer like you can never be
comprehended by you because you have become so dogmatic that you can never
appreciate what Marxism is about. What am telling you is devoid of
sentiments is just calling you to open up mall mind and not be trapped by
propaganda, with such an obstinate attitude you would be the loser because
as a young man searching for knowledge and ideas you cannot to any one who
surpasses Marx. There is no University worthy of its salt that would teach
about, History, Economics, Law, without having to deal with Karl Marx. In
fact many if not most respected lecturers in these higher instructions of
learning are usually referred to as Marxist, this is just to point out to
you that you are too irrelevant to challenge his teachings, because what he
espoused was based on dialectics which is scientific realism it does not
matter who agrees or disagrees, it shall always be there to confront you.
Even the Catholic church had to struggle when in Latin America the concept
of Liberation theology based on the doctrinaire of the teachings of Marx
started to take hold of the people. Marxist teachings is just addressing
reality as one sees it, but I can understand it would be difficult for you
to comprehend because you already been prejudiced by the figments of your
thoughts. You are a typical Thatcherite who believed in the crusade to
exorcise the demon of Marxism, I can assure you that you are going to fail
because the majority of the people of the world would have to survive and in
other to do that the world economic relationship will have to change, we
cannot continue to have a system which we have to be the producers of cheap
raw materials and at the same the purchasers of very expensive inflated
finished capitalists products. Such a relationship is no longer tenable we
have to find and alternative or else , you and me will never want to go back
and live in those impoverished conditions in our countries. If you continue
to argue for such an economic relation to continue I would conclude that
there is something wrong about you. The situation we are faced with is not
much choice we either liberate ourselves from the clutches of this monstrous
system and create a more fairer just and humane system or we should accept
the guilt of allowing millions to die under so called free trade policies
designed and implemented by the IMF with the help of economist or
politicians of your caliber who could be easily duped to help rob our.
SAUL
>From: Hamjatta Kanteh <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: Compassion Without Wisdom
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 15:41:42 EDT
>i
>Mr Sulayman Jamba Jobe,THEOLOGY
>
>You need help - seriously! With all the froth coming from all the pieces
>you've thrown at me so far, you are in great need of help to sober your
>clogged and twisted faculties of reasoning and discernment. I, for one,
>enjoyed reading your sentimental rambling, especially the bits that were
>but
>a figment of your feverish imagination. The last time you postured as a
>knowledgeable Marxist crying foul over the fact that i call Marx a racist
>and
>sexist creep. When i provided evidence to that effect, you zipped up like
>the
>ignoramus you are. Unlike you, when i'm ignorant about something, i listen
>whilst those who know the stuff speak and i learn from them. A far cry from
>the way you have weighed in my debate with Saiks. I will herein provide
>evidence that Marx was a racist creep. Best thing to do is to refute that
>with evidence and not emotional nonsense. Here is what i wrote in my last
>correspondence on that issue:
>
>"This is Karl Marx in a letter to Friedrich Engels on his contempt for
>Ferdinand Lassalle and all he stood for:
>
>"As the shape of his head and the texture of his skin suggest, he is
>descended from the negroes who joined Moses in his exodus from Egypt
>(unless
>his mother or paternal grandmother were crossed with a nigger). This union
>of Jew and German with its negro source was bound to produce a strange
>hybrid. The fellow's importunity is also negro" [Karl Marx, Letter to
>Engels of 30th. July 1862, in Works, Vol. 30, pp. 257-9, East Berlin,
>1974.]
>
>To crown it all, he ended by calling Lassalle a "Jewish nigger". Some
>non-racist inclusive internationalist, huh? Worst, Marx at some stage was
>opposed to the abolition of slavery in America on the grounds that freeing
>blacks from slavery would adversely hinder the progress of working class
>white Americans from pre- industrial working class status to industrial
>proletarian status without which the violent end he had prophesised for
>capitalism would not come to be. Marx was not only a racist creep, he
>was a sexist as well. I would like to see you refute this. The workers of
>the
>world that Marx had in mind and was calling upon to unite and free
>themselves
>from the shackles of "capitalism" were not blacks, browns, yellows and
>women;
>but exclusively proletarian white males."
>
>As for the talk that free trade liberalism exploits the poor and the rest
>of
>the romantic hogwash you rambled on about, i will engage you anytime you
>start talking knowledgeable stuff instead rehearsing the same sentimental
>nonsense that has been repudiated a century ago.
>
>All the best comrade,
>
>Hamjatta Kanteh
>
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