Cornelius,
There are two concepts I would like to present before
going fyrther. They are:
1. ?Perception management? - a "term used to describe the process of
transforming public opinion to conform to a premeditated political
agenda."
2. Doublethink which is ?? the power of holding two contradictory
beliefs in one?s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. ? To
tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them?. (http://www.
globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=5058) I shall come back to
them later.
In your attempt to appear an innocent fighter against racism and anti-
semiticism, you sent a list of articles that I forwarded and claimed to
be "responding to some of the anti-Semitic and downright racist anti-
Zionist articles" that I posted. Before posting anything about Israel,
I posted various articles dealing with propaganda, anti-imperialism
etc. for those who are interested to read and those who are not to
delete. Some of these articles were:
- Conflict Diamonds: "A Linguistic Deception"
- Understanding Empire: Hierarchy, Networks and Clients
- Blair's legacy: Militarism a broad, social devastation at home
- Deconstructing the Founding Myths of France's Greatness
- Fascist America, in 10 easy steps
- Freedom of Expression in an Era of State Terror
- No hoods. No electric shocks. No beatings. These Iranians clearly
are a very uncivilised bunch
- Propaganda and the Politics of Perception
- The Battle over Zimbabwe's Future
- Bush and Islam: Words versus Deeds
- Fidel Castro - The Internationalization of Genocide: Transforming
Food into Fuel
- THE FBI'S COVERT ACTION PROGRAM TO DESTROY THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY
and other articles. You stayed mute and didn't even lift an eyelid.
When I sent "Palestine & Israel: Know and Understand The Facts And
Decide For Yourself ", the Zionist in you arose and you responded and I
ignored you. My aim was not to send various articles about Israel but
just to send articles relating to Panafricanism, neocolonism,
imperialism etc. Kabir posted something about Israel and you responded.
You tried to use the concept of perception management to try to form a
favourable public opinion about Israel and Zionism. I did not want to
get in direct contact with you and posted another article countering
what you tried to portray. You posted something about Zionism not being
racist and I sent something to counter that. You sent something about
Israel being a democracy and I sent an article presenting another view.
You see, you conveniently try to assert that I, suddenly and out of the
blue, just started throwing these articles around with racist intent.
The two concepts of "victim mentality" and "racism labelling" employed
by Zionists to make gullible people and European and American sponsors
of genocide scared to talk about Israel and what it does wrong will not
work here. Do you think you have a right to make comments about France,
Gambia, Sierra Leone etc. but we don't have a right to comment on
Israel? You are not an innocent victim in this case and I don't care
if you tie the racism label on me. You can do it until the cows come
home and I wouldn't care and it wouldn't deter me from expressing my
view about injustice be it in Israel, Sweden, Germany, America or
Timbuktoo. Habib and Jabou have told you that people are not
criticising Judaism as a religion or Jews as a people because that
would be downright narrowmindedness. There are very decent and nice
Jews just as are within other races and peoples and I do know some.
What we have a problem with is the concept of Zionist racism. Do you
see the difference or are you going to stick to the old Zionist "blur
the landscape" concept of blurring the two and trying to hang the anti-
semiticism label on anyoneone who dares say anything about Zionism and
Israel? There are many Jews who are anti-Zionist. Some of articles I
forwarded are written be Jews. One is written by an Israeli former
Minister of Education? Is she anti-semitic? Aren't Arabs semites? How
about your derogatory references to them? Are you anti-semitic? Here
are a few links to Jews against Zionism websites: (http://www.
jewsagainstzionism.com/ , http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/ , http://www.
nkusa.org/ , http://www.jewishpeacefellowship.org , http://www.yesh-
gvul.org/english.html and many more.
In you application of the concept of "doublethink", you wrote:
- "I have not been trying to defend anything" whilst defending Zionism
and Israeli policies towards Palestinians most of which are very
dehumanising.
- "I have never criticized Islam either, not the religion Islam" and
wrote:
* "Militarism is therefore an ideal that Muslims follow, with the
Prophet of Islam (S. A. W.) and Imam Ali (A.S.) as role model and this
overemphasis on Jihad "
* "One State, which the Dawa Party - four wives per man, full time,
would overpopulate within one generation. Shall we leave it there?"
* "What is the point of blowing innocent people up and going to hell
in the process of creating a so called Islamic State?"
* "The Jews are praying for peace all the Time. The SIDDUR is full of
prayers for peace:................................ I have never heard
or read a Muslim prayer for peace, since I was born, till now.
Prayers for ?VICTORY over the unbelieving folk?, yes but peace? Never
heard."
* I find it a little disturbing, that the military agenda is at the
top of Muslim?s political agenda?. "
* Others would like to wipe out the ideological basis of terrorism.
Yet others would like to wipe out terrorists/ their enemies??"
* "There is always the divide and rule factor and the Shia/ Sunni
dichotomy in Islam, provides that kind of balance ? if it comes to
nuclear weapons too, an equilibrium of terror from both sides of the
qibla."
* "HAMAS has an Islamic agenda (does not seem to be taking the
precedent of the Treaty of Hudaibiya, as seriously as one had hoped.
Perhaps the Islamists will try to retake Spain this century ? all based
on Dar al -Islam, who knows?)"
* "The devil also has mass followers and recruits suicide bombers,
officiates at literary bonfires, and does not want the real
Prophets......."
Should I continue? You see how you are speaking from both sides of
your mouth? You see how you are professing to believe one thing and
saying something completely different? You see how you keep
contradicting yourself? You see how the contempt you have for Muslims
keeps seeping through in your statements? You see how you try to
convince us that you are an ok guy with a lot of Muslim friends whilst
inadvertently betraying your true feelings through careless remarks?
Another fib (we nickname it "ehem" in Gambia) you told was when you
wrote:
"The Arabs were able to persuade their South of the Sahara African
brothers that ?Zionism is racism? probably with the help of some petro-
dollars to grease the usual palms"
This statement is not true and it is also derogatory because you are
implying that black Africans are corrupt, cheap, without principles and
can be bought. Isn't that racist? Find below the voting record of all
the countries which voted for, against or abstained in that vote. Are
Albania, Bangladesh, Brazil, Bulgaria, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist
Republic, Cambodia, People's Republic of China, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia,
German Democratic Republic, Grenada, Guyana, Hungary, India, Indonesia,
Iran, Laos, Malaysia, Maldives, Malta, Mexico, Mongolia, Pakistan,
Poland, Portugal, Sri Lanka, Turkey and Ukrainian Soviet Socialist
Republic, and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics "South of the
Sahara African brothers" with greased usual palms? You see how you try
to "selmal" us? (pull a fast one on us). The following "South of Sahara
African brothers" Central African Republic, Ivory Coast, Liberia,
Malawi voted against and the following abstained: Botswana, Ethiopia,
Gabon, Ghana, Kenya, Lesotho, Sierra Leone, Togo, Upper Volta, Zaire,
Zambia. Were their hands also "greased"? Who did the greasing? You see
how you look?
You wrote:
"The Jews are praying for peace all the Time. The SIDDUR is full of
prayers for peace:................................I have never heard or
read a Muslim prayer for peace, since I was born, till now. Prayers for
?VICTORY over the unbelieving folk?, yes but peace? Never heard."
You try to give the impression that Muslims don't pray for peace but
only pray for victory basically because they are a warlike people. You
know that that is not true but once in the doublespeak mode, no bounds
are available. Here are a few Muslim prayers for peace:
** "O God! O our Master! You are eternal life and everlasting
peace by Your essence and attributes. The everlasting peace is from You
and it returns to You. O our Sustainer! Grant us the life of true peace
and usher us into the abode of peace. O Glorious and Bounteous One! You
are blessed and sublime.
Allahumma ya mowlana antas-salaam, wa minkas-salaam, wa ilaika yarjaus-
salaam, haiyyina rabbana bis-salaam, wa adkhilna daras-salaam,
tabarakta rabbana wa-ta'laita, ya zal jalali wal ikram "
** In the name of Allah, the beneficent, the merciful. Praise be to
the Lord of the Universe who has created us and made us into tribes and
nations, that we may know each other, not that we may despise each
other. If the enemy incline towards peace, do thou also incline towards
peace, and trust in God, for the Lord is the one that heareth and
knoweth all things. And the servants of God, Most Gracious are those
who walk on the Earth in humility, and when we address them, we say
"Peace." "
** "A Prayer for Brotherhood - The Believers are but a single
Brotherhood: So make peace and reconciliation between your two
(contending) brothers;
and fear Allah, that ye may receive Mercy." Al-Hujurat 49:10 |
Source: The Qu'ran
** "Oh God, You Are Peace
Oh God,
You are peace.
From you comes peace,
To you returns peace.
Revive us with a salutation of peace,
And lead us to your abode of peace. "
- Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
Are these prayers for war or victory over "unbeleieving folk"? You see
how you have caught again?
You wrote:
"It is widely reported that one of the Prophet of Islam?s last wishes
before he blessed the hereafter with his presence, was to rid the Hijaz
of any Jewish presence. "
I shall forward under separate cover Muhammad's (peace and blessings
of Allah be upon him) dealings with the Jews and a treaty with them and
others. You and fellow Zionists try to take the circumstances of over a
thousand years ago and juxtapose them alongside conditions today and
try to paint Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) as a
violent person. I can point out many Jewish prophet's violence (eg.,
Moses, peace be upon him) and immorality but I cannot slander him and
the other prophets because I am commanded by Islam to have high regards
for them. The so-called "violence" perpetrated by Muhammad (peace and
blessings of Allah be upon him) against Jews pales in comparison to
what the Europeans did to them, what America and Israel have done to
the Arabs and other people of the World. You see, you can't pull a fast
one here either.
Your haughtiness and sense of self-aggrandisement coupled with self-
deception compel you write self-righteous applesauce such as:
- "We are far too intelligent for that and even today I prefer the
company of a good book (like Amos Oz?s ?A Tale of Love and Darkness?)
to that of a lout."
- "There is no war going on between US and Iraq."
and how you are the generous philantrophist helping out Muslims in
trouble and giving alms to Muslims who cheat you. Get your head out of
the clouds and come back to earth man! Sitting on your high horse and
narrating your life history is not interesting to me and probably many
others. Through what you wrote, you stated some personal positions. I
asked you questions relating to those. I am not interested in reading
someone else's opinions about what they believe. If I wanted to know
what Professor so and so thinks, i would have asked you Professor so
and so thinks. I asked you questions. Either answer them or take the
fifth for fear of incriminating and contradicting yourself but don't
point me to any links because I am not going to click on them. The
questions are there. You can answer one question per day or week if you
want but give me your opinion and not someone else's. You also wrote:
"much love". What I want from you is not love but honest answers to my
questions or a refusal to answer them or silence.
Buharry.
P.S.
There were typos in my previous posting, which I realised after
sending it.
D.S.
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---the United Nations voted, 97 to 35
Voting record
Voting record Sponsored by: (25) Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Cuba,
Dahomey, Egypt, Guinea, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libyan Arab
Republic, Mauritania, Morocco, North Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia,
Somalia, South Yemen, Sudan, Syrian Arab Republic, Tunisia, and United
Arab Emirates.
Voted yes: (72) The 25 sponsoring nations above, and additionally 47
nations: Albania, Bangladesh, Brazil, Bulgaria, Burundi, Byelorussian
Soviet Socialist Republic, Cambodia, Cameroon, Cape Verde, Chad,
People's Republic of China, Congo, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Equatorial
Guinea, Gambia, German Democratic Republic, Grenada, Guinea-Bissau,
Guyana, Hungary, India, Indonesia, Iran, Laos, Madagascar, Malaysia,
Maldives, Mali, Malta, Mexico, Mongolia, Mozambique, Niger, Nigeria,
Pakistan, Poland, Portugal, Rwanda, São Tomé and Príncipe, Senegal, Sri
Lanka, Tanzania, Turkey, Uganda, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic,
and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Voted no: (35) Australia, Austria, Bahamas, Barbados, Belgium, Canada,
Central African Republic, Costa Rica, Denmark, Dominican Republic, El
Salvador, Fiji, Finland, France, Federal Republic of Germany, Haiti,
Honduras, Iceland, Republic of Ireland, Israel, Italy, Ivory Coast,
Liberia, Luxembourg, Malawi, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua,
Norway, Panama, Swaziland, Sweden, United Kingdom of Great Britain and
Northern Ireland, United States of America, Uruguay.
Abstaining: (32) Argentina, Bhutan, Bolivia, Botswana, Burma, Chile,
Colombia, Ecuador, Ethiopia, Gabon, Ghana, Greece, Guatemala, Jamaica,
Japan, Kenya, Lesotho, Mauritius, Nepal, Papua New Guinea, Paraguay,
Peru, Philippines, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Thailand, Togo, Trinidad
and Tobago, Upper Volta, Venezuela, Zaire, Zambia.
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----Original Message----
From: [log in to unmask]
Date: May 30, 2007 12:59:09 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subj: Re: Zionism as a Racist Ideology
? For one who acknowledges that Gambia and Gambian fora
are not significant in determining policy, you seem to be spending an
awful lot of time trying to defend the indefensible.?
I was responding to some of the anti-Semitic and downright racist
anti-Zionist
articles that you have been posting fiti-fata, these past twenty
four hours all
to prove that you are ?more sober and sophisticated than the half-
baked
?.and can see through the mistruths, half-truths? etc.
You posted these.
1. FWD: Palestine & Israel: Know and Understand The Facts And Decide
For
Yourself
2 FWD: 'Israel's Right To Exist': Is It A Real Issue?
3. FWD: The Occupation Of Palestine
4. FWD: 'Wiped off the Map' ? The Rumor of the Century
5. FWD: Palestine: Israeli Killing Fields
6. FWD: Israel's Right To Be Racist
7. FWD: Compassionate Oppression: Subjugating Your Inferiors With A
Human
Touch
8. Fwd: Holocaust Museum: Israeli Holocaust Against Arabs
9. FWD: Zionism and the Media
10. FWD: Zionism as a Racist Ideology
11. FWD: A Review Of The Ethnic Cleansing Of Palestine By Ilan Pappe
12. FWD: UN RESOFWD: Various Articles On The Farce Of Israeli
Democracy
13. FWD: Various Articles On The Farce Of Israeli Democracy
14. FWD: Answering Zionist Propaganda
You are all very important as people, most of you are Muslims, and I
have
nothing against that.
I have not been trying to defend anything.
I have posted some links and you may believe what you want.
I don?t know whether answering your twenty questions will make any
difference, but please give me some time to think about it, and I will
try to
answer them in my own personal way.
Of course, you know that avoidable or unavoidable human suffering
and
tragedy causes much pain to all of us. The daily carnage that we
witness on
TV, from Iraq, sometimes I wonder if we are still human beings.
(Have you tried to obtain Saudi citizenship yet?)
I could ask you twenty easy questions, but you don?t have to convince
me
about anything. I am not easily convinced and if you are destined to
follow the
prophet Moses, so be it, if not it doesn?t mean that you are going to
go ? to
hell.
I CAN TELL YOU THIS: THAT SINCE Israel?s ?Independence day? 59 years
ago,
ISRAEL HAS NOT KNOWN A SINGLE DAY OF PEACE.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA
It?s akin to the period 610-623 of Islam. You could say that the whole
period
during which the Islamic revelation took place, was during a state of
emergency.
There has been much more bloodshed among and between Muslims since
that
time, though not on the scale of the 2nd World War bloodshed was
concentrated within six years.
Militarism is therefore an ideal that Muslims follow, with the
Prophet of Islam
(S. A. W.) and Imam Ali (A.S.) as role model and this overemphasis on
Jihad
etc and Palestinians unwillingness to negotiate is what puzzles me.
I find it a little disturbing, that the military agenda is at the top
of Muslim?s
political agenda?. And oh yes, the Shia have also suffered very much?.
As
you well know.
The year was 1987, and this was my first Sufi Teacher and this is how
I met
him: I was once sitting with some Gambian friends. One of them was
lamenting
something ? and BLACK is my weakness.
There and then, I counted the sum of eight thousand Kronor and handed
it
over to him as a loan. He needed the money. Later on, when I asked him
for it,
he told me to get out? did we sign any paper etc.
In the first week of Ramadan, I was reading the Qur'an and came to
the
section where it said that if someone owes you some money, give him
more
time to pay it, but it would be even better, if you waived it as
Sadaka, and I
did just that. I wrote a letter to this my Gambian friend, and told
him that this
was Ramadan sadaka from me to him.
Immediately after that, I was impelled to go to Vattumannen Bookshop
-
three minute walk from where I lived, and there I bought, ?In the
Paradise of
the Sufis? by Dr. Javad Nurbakhsh. When I got home, I opened the book,
on
the first page or so, saw an address, and phone number. (Of course, I
thought
that Dr. Nurbakhsh the author was in Iran. I called the London
Branch
number, and was told that Dr. Nurbakhsh was not at home, and could I
call
the Khaniqah, later. I did so half an hour later and talked to Dr.
Nurbakhsh I
think that it was on a Monday, and he said that I could see him on
Wednesday, in London.
After I put down the phone. I danced - I mean DANCED and cried for
half an
hour.
I was there on Wednesday, popped in to see my mother at Edgware, and
stayed with her that week.
Within fifteen months I went so see Dr. Nurbaksh eight nine times ?
eight
times in London and once in Cologne, Germany when he invited me to
the
opening of the Khaniqah there.
But that was just the beginning of something and I tell you this (it?s
not a
secret) because I want you to understand that I am not some unfeeling
brute
who wants to slaughter any Muslim heaven forbid, or Palestinian, but
in a
them or US situation what do you do?
http://www.google.se/search?
hl=en&rlz=1T4ADBR_enSE222SE222&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&
q=DR.+Nurbakhsh+on+LOVE
So, sabre, please, my Judaism puts a lot of emphasis on CHESED,
perhaps my
greatest weakness and with that too, I will try to answer your
questions.
Much love,
Cornelius
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