With all respect, I think it is time for some of our islam leaders to stand
forth and teach the rights of the quran and the monothesim that it preaches.
It is nothing but suicide. The Marabout or the magician simply commited
suicide. I belief his son or who ever burried him must be apprehended and
brought to justice. Our brand of Islam in that part of Africa is not
working. We need to redefine who we are as a people. Where were we before
Islam and now that Islam is here who are we as a people. We must start to be
Islamic in all means or be followers of our fore-fathers who are described
as pagans and animists. These two forms of beliefs could and will not be
blended. God Almighty would not accept anyone in his garden who associated
him (Allah ) to anyone other being. We have had this kinds of madness ever
since. We see people spending all their lives worshiping people like Serigne
Bamba and so on. These people are and were only human beings . They have no
other power than the power you and I and any other human being posseses.
Muhammed the prophet of Islam could not predict the end of the world when
asked by Gibreil. He conceded that the one asking that question about when
the world would end perhaps knew the day and the he could not tell. Are we
suggesting that this so call Marbout could tell when he would pass onto the
other side?These practices must stop and must stop now. These so call
Marabouts cannot even safe themselves on the day of judgement let alone
their so call blind followers. God Almighty is the olny saviour. There is
only two ways to decribe this sad and yet unfortunate event. Suicide or
murder. Period. The police must look into this matter.
Nyanchor

-----Original Message-----
From: Alieu Jawara <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 03:32:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Marabout Predicts death

> Wow! interesting stuff. I was hoping to hear a different version of
> this story but seems not to be coming. I'm sure the cherno was a very
> pious man and loved by many. Usually on the demise of such persons
> people go out of their way to associate so many supernatural powers to
> them. I'm sure such a pious man knows the Qur'an enough that he's aware
> nobody knows when and where he'll die (Qur'an ch 31, Verse 34, for
> example). By laying in your grave and ask someone to burry you, are you
> claiming that you know you are dying? which goes against several verses
> in the Qur'an, or maybe you are commiting suicide, which also is Haraam
> (forbidden).
> There are stories of Serigne Bamba (Touba) defying the laws of gravity
> and praying on water, I wonder who first told that story: I doubt it
> was Serigne Bamba or the white men with him.
> You can see several similarities between the story of Cherno Jobe and
> that of Jesus Christ (May Allah bless Jesus). Of course the concept of
> divinity of Jesus or him coming into the world as the sacrifial lamb of
> God didn't happen over night but started with simple stories like this.
> Something that cannot be found in his teachings. You'll find millions
> of Shi'tes today attributing divine powers to Imam Ali, something that
> he never taught. You can find several examples of this in Hinduism and
> Budaism as well.
>
> Luntang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Marabout predicts death
> Instructs son to bury him
> By Momodou Bah & Bakare Muritala
> Oct 9, 2004, 10:34
>
>
> The people of Buduck were dumbfounded at the mystery surrounding the
> death and burial of the great marabout of
> the region, Alhaji Momodou Jobe, popularly known as Cherno.
> Marabout Jobe who died last week Saturday was reported to have worn a
> white robe, spiritually transported
> himself to graveyard already dug two years ago and was covered up by
> his youngest son, Sulayman Jobe.
>
> The marabout was said to have confided in Sulayman Jobe, and gave him
> instructions as to how he should be
> buried a short while before his death.
>
> According to family members, the marabout asked Sulayman to meet him at
> the graveyard after a few minutes,
> when he would already be in the grave in order to cover his dead body.
>
> The late marabout is said to have lived a holy and spiritual life
> throughout his 100 years and urged followers
> to seek knowlegde and fight poverty.
> His death was not known by villagers until the day after he buried
> himself.
> Eyewitness said hundreds of villagers and other gathered at the late
> marabout house.
> Some of his fervent followers say the late marabout has left them with
> strict teachings, dictates and the ways
> of life of Prophet Muhammad.
>
> "His simplicity and war against fanatism were teachings that governed
> his daily live. His simple way of life
> is evidenced in his association with people as he was always seen under
> a common platform with the ordinary
> villagers," one village said.
>
> Another of his mysterious achievements was his abilty to turn into
> farmland, part of the Bintang Bulong river
> where residents now cultivate rice.
>
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