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Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:
Sat, 18 May 2002 06:09:25 +0200
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Habib,
I would be very grateful, if you / anybody on the L can forward where I
insulted Yusupha Jow`s parents. I am very busy, and don`t really have
time to answer to these untruthful accusations against me. I would be
very grateful, if our computer experts can dig the archives and forward
where I said,
1" I don`t know Ebou Jallow ".
2. Where I insulted Yusupha`s parents.
Let the same experts be honest to forward where I was called a
"Hypocrite" and
"a liar". Habib, remember that I am a father and my children have read
it.
Bro Taf.

Habib Ghanim skrev:

>
>
>  Brother Mustafa , Ebou and Yusufa
>
> I am busy today with my daughter's graduation and flying to chicago
> tomorrow so I will try to give you all my take on this . It requires
> a little (" listihar" ) laugh
>
> In the meam time  I still insist that regardless of what Yus said his
> mom or dad should not have been insulted  butthere is  nothing that is
> broken that can not be fixed . So let us be positive
>
> Till next week
>
> Habib Diab Ghanim
>
>
>
>
>
>  HDG>From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: An appeal to Gambia-l members
> >Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 07:40:52 +0200
> >
> >" I would also add that if you live in a glass house do not throw
> stones
> >"
> >
> >Bro Habib,
> >The above mentioned proverb is the best and most truthful proverb I
> have
> >ever read on the G-L. Bro Habib, you should also remember that people
>
> >being personally attacked on this forum are also fathers and mothers
> to
> >some youngsters,
> >who could have been very nasty on the G-L, if they want to. So, let
> us
> >call a spade a spade! If people are personally attacked because of
> their
> >views, they have their full rights to defend themselves. We all know
> >each other very well! Gambia is a small country. Rudness is just a
> >T-shirt hanging in the air, which anybody can wear if he / she chose
> to
> >wear it. Ebou Jallow has ever respected me, and I see NO reason to
> >disrespect him because of his action. My conclusion remains the same,
>
> >that Ebou did the same thing so many Gambians did, Period. Extend my
> >warmest greetings to Mamma Kinza and Mulie.
> >
> >Elhajj
> >
> >Habib Ghanim skrev:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks Ebou,I would also add that if you live in a glass house do
> not
> > > throw stones.Inshallah, I hope that we all would meet and resolve
> our
> > > differences in a much calmer environment.I believe in the due
> process
> > > and strongly think that your contributions and those of Yuspha are
>
> > > beneficial in certain respects. You can state your position and
> stand
> > > for your beliefs and also have the right to change your stand
> anytime
> > > like anyone else.
> > >
> > > In our Advisory board of directors meetings monthly, we have to
> reach
> > > a consensus and make compromises every time plus debate the hot
> > > issues until late hours before we all (18 board members ) adjourn.
>
> > > Much more both sides must listen to each other despite their
> > > differences and try to convince each other why he or she is right.
>
> > > sometimes backing the position with facts,documents and even
> > > pictures. The important thing here is that at the end of the day
> we
> > > must agreed on even our disagreements for peace's sake without
> > > harming your values or beliefs
> > >
> > > Let us take for example here in Montgomery county . The Federal
> > > government wants to build an intercounty connector highway to go
> east
> > > west from Va through Montgomery and prince george's counties. The
> > > environmentalists oppose it vehemently because it meant many trees
>
> > > will be cut and some small streams will be damaged so alternatives
>
> > > were reached after FIVE years debate ( yes 5 yrs) . The deal was
> to
> > > expand the existing highways to add two extra lane on each side
> ,plus
> > > light rail to take any overflow and that will minimize the tree
> > > cutting ( if any was cut they would plant a new tree some where
> else
> > > in the state to replace them) bridges with wider sewage pipes to
> > > allow the current flow of the streams without damaging the paths .
> The
> > > home owners who lost their front yards were hansomely compensated
> (
> > > they offered loosing their homes- only a few vs many with the
> original
> > > plan)
> > >
> > > I give this as an example just to show you that we can all meet
> half
> > > way and all be happy with the outcome.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > i hope to see you al soon . maybe at the ALd picnic. I am easy to
> > > detect - with my shining bald head ( laugh)
> > >
> > > take care and good luck
> > >
> > > Habib diab Ghanim
> > >
> > >
> > > HDG>From: Ebou Jallow
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: An appeal to Gambia-l members
> > > >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 17:48:29 -0400
> > > >
> > > >Koto Habib,
> > > >
> > > >You and Elhajj Mustapha Faye are two people I really do respect
> alot
> > > on
> > > >this list. Although our intentions to meet in person had never
> > > >materialized in the past nevertheless we both held each other in
> high
> > >
> > > >esteem. I knew Elhajj Mustapha way back in the Banjul, and I can
> bet
> > > >my life that he will never describe me as a disrespectful person.
>
> > > >I also do not believe anybody on this list has any right to
> slander
> > > my
> > > >name and subject me to some malicious rumors. I personally have
> > > >absolutely no inclination to turn nasty on anybody. However, I
> will
> > > >never hesitate to return any insult in kind. The law of mutual
> > > >reciprocity is very simple and tacit: DO NOT INSULT PEOPLE IF YOU
> NOT
> > >
> > > >WANT TO BE INSULTED. Furthermore, the Bible says that “judge
> > > not...for
> > > >the measure you give is the measure you get”. I believe this is a
>
> > > very
> > > >fair deal! Without the reciprocity of mutual respect civil
> society
> > > can
> > > >never never exist. Respect for human dignity is a providential
> bliss
> > > >that the Almighty God bequeaths to us to live like normal human
> > > beings.
> > > >
> > > >The essence of dialogue is reason, and not passions. And no
> > > >qualitative logic can ever arrest the destructiveness of
> unbridled
> > > >passions. I do sincerely hope though that we the younger members
> on
> > > >this list might be able to tap on the good auspices of your
> graceful
> > > >wisdom in the future. Please Habib do not hesitate to arbitrate
> > > >internecine exchanges before they turn rancorous and fetid. I for
> one
> > >
> > > >have pledge my disposition on such events on your good judgment.
> > > >
> > > >Hopefully, we shall see one of these days.
> > > >
> > > >Ebou Jallow
> > > >
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