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Alpha Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
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Greetings Gambia-L,

It has been a very long time since I last wrote! I had intended to come back
in a proper manner, by explaining to those who have not been in contact with
me in private that I moved to the UK in November 2000. Already before my
departure from Germany, it has been a struggle to catch up with the speed of
events in my life, but gradually I am now settling down. I also intended to
give you an update of the April 11 Massacre Fund.

Since the last update on Gambia-L about the April 11 Massacre fund, some
more contributions were made to the Europe account, and I intend to detail
the state of both accounts shortly. In that regard, I would like to request
all those who contributed to the Fund after August 2000 to get in touch with
me, and help me confirm the records. The balance up to date, of the Europe
account, stands at ?1332.06.

The main purpose of this mail is to put the case of some of the students who
were injured during the April Massacre before Gambia-L for consideration. It
was brought to our knowledge that some of the injured students are still
languishing in hospitals in The Gambia without any prospects of receiving
proper medical attention. It was therefore suggested that part of the Fund
should be used to assist these people to at least travel to a country where
they can be treated. The initial amount involved is about 1000 US Dollars.

Before taking any action we thought it appropriate to seek the approval or
otherwise of Gambia-L. I would also like to take this opportunity to invite
recommendations on how to proceed with the money left in the Fund.

We are looking forward to your useful comments.


Regards,

Alpha Robinson

For the April 11 Massacre Fund







----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again


> Fatou, thanks for you clarification.  All things equal, your comparison
> between Jammeh's statement and the State Department's is valid and
> reasonable.  However, when you take Jammeh's statement and backtrack to
the
> six feet deep threats, the student massacre, the summary killings with no
> explanations to date, the arrests and kidnappings with no trace of the
> victims for weeks and sometimes months, you cannot help but wonder what he
> might or might not do when he is uncomfortable for whatever reason.  Had
> Gambians not experienced killings with Jammeh, I don't think any would
loose
> sleep with his utterances.  He may not kill 20,000 in his staged coup
> attempts, but two here, five there, adds up over time.  Is it normal for
any
> responsible leader to talk in terms of killing 20,000 if he had to do it?
> As both of know, there is no security threat in The Gambia, but Jammeh and
> Secret Service thugs.  In the example you gave of the State Department, we
> all can link the cause and effect.  However, in the case of Yaya, Gambians
> only see the effect with no reasonable explanations for the cause.  I hope
> you do not take it that I'm jumping all over you.  My comments are made in
> the spirit of a healthy dialogue.  Let me know your thoughts.
>
> Chi Jaama
>
> Joe Sambou
>
>
> >From: fatou camara <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again
> >Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 15:39:00 -0500
> >
> >I hate writing on Gambia L especially when it comes to politics and about
> >President Jammeh.The reason is a lot of people on this Forum jump into
> >conclusion too soon and start judging people when they don't even know
what
> >they trying to say.This is one thing we all should try to avoid and
> >communicate as matured people.
> >
> >When the president says that if he has to kill 20,000 people to make sure
> >that 1million people stay safe he will happily  do it,does not mean that
he
> >is going to kill 20,000 people.This is the same statement the American
> >government made about terrorists hijacking their planes.That they will
> >rather shoot at the plane and kill all the passengers  than let it hit a
> >place where it can kill Thousands.
> >Am just trying to make this clear and thats it.
> >Fatu Rone.
> >
> >
> >>From: "Movement for restoration of democracy in Gambia [NY]"
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >><[log in to unmask]>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: The Gambian Chap/President at his threat again
> >>Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 20:31:28 EST
> >>
> >>Culled from the Point:
> >>
> >>. President! Do Not Kill Anybody
> >>
> >>?oRemember if I have to kill 20,000 Gambians to make sure that 1
million
> >>live
> >>in peace, I will happily do it. Because that is my responsibility; to
make
> >>sure the majority of Gambians live in peace.? The above statement is
> >>attributed to President Jammeh. When we read it, shivers ran through our
> >>spine because the statement is a dangerous one. What? Kill 20,000
> >>Gambians?
> >>No! This is unbelievable! Is this your intention, Mr. President or were
> >>you
> >>just ?~Open Calling?T? If it was an ?~Open Call?T, it was an
expensive
> >>one.
> >>
> >>Why didn?Tt GRTS show us the video recording of your intervention to
> >>allow
> >>us
> >>read in your face whether you were making a firm promise or ?~Open
> >>Calling?T?
> >>Even if we saw your face we wouldn?Tt have been able to clearly read
your
> >>intention anyway. Now, let?Ts assume that you were really serious. Mr.
> >>President, how can someone who brags that he took over the country
without
> >>a
> >>chicken being slaughtered tell us now that he is ready to take the lives
> >>of
> >>20,000 people? Your argument is that you want the others to live in
peace.
> >>But how can 20,000 die and the others live in peace.
> >>
> >>That figure cannot be correct when checked against the extended family
> >>system
> >>we have here. The 20,000 will have to be multiplied by 10 and that gives
> >>you
> >>200,000 people and in some cases that figure should be multiplied by 12
or
> >>14. So, is this an ?~Open Call?T? Mr. President, your government
should
> >>ensure
> >>that peace prevails by leading the country towards the path of
development
> >>taking full cognisance of both the diversity of the people and our quest
> >>for
> >>the common good. Differences are great because they stimulate us to
reach
> >>new
> >>frontiers in our resolve to bring out the best in our humanity. Mr.
> >>President! Do not kill any Gambian! ?oThou Shall Not Kill? The Bible
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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