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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 6 Mar 2006 23:15:06 +0000
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Mballow, thanks for your thoughts.  However, the sooner you and the UDP know 
that you do not own the Gambia, the better for all of us.  This is really 
laughable.  Now it is Joe Sambou that made UDP/Ousainou leave NADD.  Look, 
Ousainou betrayed the trust bestowed unto him by Gambians and Gambians have 
a reason to expect trust from Ousainou.  His and your blind vision and 
hunger for power made you'll to leave NADD.  Right now I do not know what 
unity you are talking about.  Those that were sincere about NADD are still 
with NADD.  The same STGDP you are talking about begged Ousainou up to the 
last minute to work with Gambians, but alas, for you'll, it is winner take 
all, and to hell with what Gambians wish.  Well, you cannot turn this around 
and I think you'll need to stick to one story for your pretext.  One day, 
there was mistrust within NADD, the next OJ did not want a Mandingo to lead 
NADD, or Waa hates Ousainou, or Dr. Saine did this; Kebba Foon did that; PPP 
did this, and STGDP did that, to Pa Nderry and now your new addition is Joe 
Sambou.  Funny you see everything in the room but the White Elephant - 
Ousainou/UDP.

"It was after many attacks on Ousainou and UDP leadership that the UDP 
Supporters jump in."

Mballow, bull!  Why would I jump on Ousainou before he leaves NADD?  See, 
you are not even making sense.  Why would STGDP fax a letter to Ousainou and 
called him and spoke with him for an hour plus, begging him to give us 72 
hours to work out something only for him to tell us that there is no reverse 
on his decision?  The "Hawks" amongst you'll won his mind then.  What did 
Ousainou say at his first press release?  Did you hear my name in anything 
he said, or the littney of the names above?  I told you this is not 2001, 
but hey, you thought you can just ram another one on us.


Mballow, you may think that Gambians are slow, but you will learn a thing or 
two in the process.  We are pass the phase of coaxing anyone and it is time 
to unveil programs for a future Gambia and that is what NADD is focusing on. 
  You'll believe you are the biggest, baddest, and the most popular, no 
dispute, the people will decide that.  Mballow, if you'll have the following 
you claimed, you have ample time to demonstrate that, thus we do not need to 
talk about this any more.  Everyone who stayed in NADD agreed with what they 
signed - the MOU, which you'll are not interested in.  You'll want to RULE, 
it is your turn eh, to pick up from where Jammeh left off, thus you have no 
need for a level playing field, term limit, selection process, etc.  Well, 
sell that to the Gambian voter, your customer.  The center of the universe 
is not the UDP and I hope you'll recognize that soon.  You got a program, 
unveil it, that is what Gambians want to judge.

Chi Jaama

Joe


>From: saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Ss. Daffeh
>Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:42:38 -0800
>
>Joe,
>       the bottom line is you Joe Sambou started
>attacking the UDP and Ousainou Darboe and at the very
>time i caution you because i knew it would frustrate
>our efforts, burst anger among the opposition
>supporters and lead to disunity that you and me cannot
>control. All your writings  against the UDP and UDP
>leadership is on record and they are malicious. It was
>after many attacks on Ousainou and UDP leadership that
>the UDP Supporters jump in.
>
>Let me tell you that it is not that UDP supporters
>were afraid to respond but they though it was going to
>be a passing cloud but NO and now here we are. Every
>body is ready for word to a word.
>
>
>Let face the fact, no body would accept to be insulted
>continuosly however you want unity or peace.
>
>Saihou
>
>
>--- Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Ginny, to subscribe to the Post or L, Daffeh will
> > not even burst a sweat.
> > Mballow knows that all he has to do is to ask the
> > managers to subscribe
> > Daffeh.  Both Mballow and Daffeh know that, so what
> > is the problem?  There
> > is no issue with Daffeh being a student and sending
> > mails to the Post or L.
> > Instead of to Mballow, then to the L or Post, it
> > goes straight to the site
> > with an address that those that wish to respond to
> > him to do so and
> > expecting a response in return.  I think that is
> > very reasonable.  The fact
> > that we are even explaining the obvious here
> > indicates that something is
> > fundamentally fishy with this whole deal and I don't
> > think the readers are
> > that stupid, contrary to what some folks think when
> > they bring their wares
> > here.  We need to stop assaulting commonsense and
> > pretending that nothing is
> > happening.  If the rules allow this, then all should
> > be able to do the same.
> >
> >
> > >From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Ss. Daffeh
> > >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:50:03 -0600
> > >
> > >Hello, Saihou, another idea would be for him to put
> > up a blog, for example,
> > >with comments enabled, so people can comment on
> > what he is writing.  I'm
> > >offering this as an alternative solution, since
> > it's possible that his
> > >reasons for not subscribing to the Gambia-l and
> > Gambia Post may have to do
> > >with time constraints, in that he may not have the
> > time to read through the
> > >amount of emails generated here.  That way, he can
> > still get his articles
> > >posted in an online medium, and people have the
> > ability to comment on what
> > >he is saying.  Where else are these articles
> > available?  Maybe another
> > >suggestion would be to refer people to the online
> > sources of the articles
> > >which he is writing, and again, give people the
> > chance to comment.  And I
> > >think that is the main issue here, that people
> > don't have the ability to
> > >comment or refute any of his points, and in return,
> > get a response from
> > >him.
> > >
> > >     Getting a blog is relatvely simple and free
> > also, although I pay for
> > >the blog I have.  However, if one does not want to
> > pay for a blog, you can
> > >get one for free.
> > >
> > >     Just some thoughts.
> > >
> > >Ginny
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message ----- From: "saihou Mballow"
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 2:16 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Ss. Daffeh
> > >
> > >
> > >>Hi Ginny,
> > >>          i really appreciate your participation
> > on
> > >>this particular issue and generally your
> > contribution
> > >>on other debates trying to make democracy work in
> > The
> > >>gambia.
> > >>I believe people should help shape public opinion
> > by
> > >>speaking out or writing on important issues that
> > >>concerns citizens. This is among the reasons and
> > >>couple with demand from some Gambias who have
> > >>expressed interest in reading Mr Daffeh's articles
> > >>encouraged me to forward them for public
> > consumtion
> > >>and analysis.
> > >>Well i have come to understand that there are
> > people
> > >>who do not appreciate his articles forwarded but
> > >>rather prefer himself subscribe to the list and
> > >>participate on the debates and i equally want that
> > to
> > >>happen but if that has not happen yet, shouldn't
> > stop
> > >>me from forwarding his articles after they have
> > >>appeared on newspapers.
> > >>I thank you and will seek general public opinion
> > >>before taking a final decision on it.
> > >>
> > >>Saihou
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post
> > e-Gathering
> > >>>by "Ginny Quick" <[log in to unmask]> ]
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Hello, Saihou, just to put my two cents in here,
> > but
> > >>>it seems to me that
> > >>>what some people have a problem with is not
> > >>>necessarily what Daffeh is
> > >>>writing, but they would like to know why he
> > doesn't
> > >>>subscribe to the Gambia
> > >>>Post / L, and defend what he's writing, since
> > there
> > >>>are some who disagree
> > >>>with what he is saying.  So it would seem that
> > the
> > >>>main problem isn't so
> > >>>much what he is writing or saying, but why he
> > just
> > >>>don't subscribe to the
> > >>>list and post his articles on his own.  Is there
> > any
> > >>>reason he can't
> > >>>subscribe to the Gambia Post / L on his own and
> > then
> > >>>pust his articles that
> > >>>way?  I think some people feel as though he is
> > >>>hiding or something, and I
> > >>>think that is what has people wondering.
> > >>>
> > >>>Ginny
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "saihou
> > Mballow" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>>To: "gambia post" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>>Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:04 PM
> > >>>Subject: [>-<] Re: Ss. Daffeh
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> >[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post
> > e-Gathering
> > >>>by saihou Mballow
> > >>> ><[log in to unmask]> ]
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Joh,
> > >>> >     i am sorry to say but i don't need an
> > advice
> > >>>from
> > >>> > someone who will tell me not to forward
> > Daffeh's
> > >>> > articles or any other Gambian writer.
> > >>> > This is so because many Gambians have
> > expressed
> > >>> > positive feelings about Mr Daffeh's writtings.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It is troubling that few people on this list
> > >>>exhibits
> > >>> > a strikingly low level of political
> > intolerance
> > >>>and i
> > >>> > don't believe you are part of those people.
> > They
> > >>>don't
> > >>> > want to see any thing written against their
> > favor.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Daily we see people on this list using "F"
> > words
> > >>>but
> > >>> > do any anyone care to tell them to stop, NO.
> > >>> > Therefore, it is unfair for me to reject
> > >>>forwarding
> > >>> > Daffeh's writings. Daffeh has always been
> > backing
> > >>>his
> > >>> > articles with facts and records.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > What i expected from you was a response with
> > >>>authentic
> > >>> > figures to challenge his statistical data but
> > not
> > >>>to
> > >>> > label him as someone divisive.
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
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