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Matarr Amadou Sallah <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 14 Mar 2003 19:48:45 +0100
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Sidibeh
You are right the right answer is great grandfather.
I will send you another one later if it is okay.
Have a nice weekend.

Matarr






>From: "A.B. Sidibe" <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: FAMILY TIES
>Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:27:08 -0800
>
>Matarr,
>
>There are only two logical answers to your question.
>Peter is either my great-grandfather or, he is not a
>blood relative. Unless there is a hidden tier of
>abstraction, I shall stand by this answer.
>Cheers!
>Abdou
>--- Matarr Amadou Sallah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Abdou
> > Iīm afraid you are wrong
> >
> > Matarr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "A.B. Sidibe" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: FAMILY TIES
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:42:22 -0800
> > >
> > >Who is my great-granfather?
> > >Cheers!
> > >Abdou
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Matarr Amadou Sallah <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Hello Everyone
> > > > Here is somrthing to think about.
> > > >
> > > > Peterīs son is the father-in-law
> > > > to the husband of your fatherīs sister.
> > > > How are you related to Peter or what is Peter
> > > > to you?
> > > >
> > > > Matarr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > > > list
> > > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: EUobserver: New rules for
> > third-country
> > > > family reunification
> > > > >Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 18:56:43 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi!
> > > > >
> > > > >This news item seems quite interesting for some
> > > > reasons. The Scandinavian
> > > > >countries, as opposed to the rest of Europe
> > have
> > > > been sneaking in 'laws'
> > > > >that require DNA testing between parents and
> > their
> > > > offspring in order to
> > > > >prove biological ties in family reunification
> > > > applications.
> > > > >
> > > > >These are not 'laws' passed by parliament but
> > > > rather 'regulations' crafted
> > > > >by Immigration Authorities which allow them to
> > > > 'offer' such tests to
> > > > >applicants in family reunification cases; an
> > > > 'offer' you don't dare refuse,
> > > > >as that spells automatic rejection of your
> > > > application.
> > > > >
> > > > >In Norway, among the list of twelve countries
> > whose
> > > > nationals are availed
> > > > >this special 'offer,' ten are African: Somalia,
> > > > Ethiopia, Sierra Leone,
> > > > >Liberia, Nigeria, Ghana, Gambia and Cameroon;
> > the
> > > > other two non-African
> > > > >countries being Afghanistan and Irak.
> > > > >
> > > > >That's not all, the applicants have to travel
> > to
> > > > the Norwegian embassy
> > > > >nearest to their home country, which in
> > Gambia's
> > > > case for example, would
> > > > >mean Abidjan in civil war-engulfed Ivory Coast
> > and
> > > > at the applicant's own
> > > > >cost too, in order to give blood specimen.
> > Specimen
> > > > which is then supposed
> > > > >to be dispatched to Oslo for analysis.
> > > > >
> > > > >Consular outpost like the one we have in the
> > Gambia
> > > > are not accepted as
> > > > >being good enough to collect such specimen, an
> > > > exercise than can be carried
> > > > >out by even an auxillary nurse.
> > > > >
> > > > >It is also supposed to take three months from
> > the
> > > > collection of the
> > > > >specimen till the result is made available, a
> > time
> > > > frame which does not
> > > > >included the six months that it is normally
> > > > supposed to take to process
> > > > >such applications.
> > > > >
> > > > >One is naturally led to wonder why only certain
> > > > hand-picked countries are
> > > > >made this unethical 'offer'?
> > > > >
> > > > >Well according to the Norwegian Immigration
> > > > Authority,
> > > > >Utlendingsdirektoratet (UDI), the validity of
> > > > documents from these
> > > > >countries is questionable since they are known
> > for
> > > > their rampant
> > > > >corruption. One concrete example they proffered
> > was
> > > > that a mother can just
> > > > >walk into a health centre and quote a date of
> > birth
> > > > of a child, name of
> > > > >parents, and be issued with a birth
> > certificate.
> > > > >
> > > > >Question is, why would these same authorities
> > that
> > > > accept other documents
> > > > >from these countries without question, choose
> > to
> > > > question the validity of
> > > > >only birth certificates? Why are marriage
> > > > certificates exempt, for example?
> > > > >The whole scheme is suspect at best.
> > > > >
> > > > >As usual, there has not been any concerted
> > response
> > > > from the communities
> > > > >involved. Some from the affected communities
> > have
> > > > even been blaming the
> > > > >victims as there has been a general attitude
> > of:
> > > > 'It does not affect me;'
> > > > >while some have refuse outright to append their
> > > > signatures to a petition
> > > > >intended to deliver some form of protest, set
> > in
> > > > motion by certain
> > > > >concerned individuals. First it was only the
> > > > Somalians, now there are nine
> > > > >more African nationalities; today it is DNA
> > > > testing, tomorrow?
> > > > >
> > > > >My understanding from conversations with
> > Gambians
> > > > resident in both Sweden
> > > > >and Denmark, is that these countries instituted
> > not
> > > > only 'laws' that
> > > > >'offer' DNA tests but more far-reaching and
> > hostile
> > > > one towards immigrants.
> > > > >I just could not believe my ears when Momodou
> > > > Camara explained to me the
> > > > >length to which the Danish Immigration
> > Authority
> > > > has gone in order to
> > > > >frustrate efforts by 'foreigners,' even those
> > > > holding Danish nationality,
> > > > >to have even their wives join them in Denmark.
> > > > >
> > > > >For the benefit of those who read
> > > > Norwegian/Danish/Swedish, the circular
> > > > >from UDI on DNA testing can be accessed at:
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >http://193.71.11.42/dokumenter/doc/rundskriv/2002/rs200229.doc
> > > > >
> > > > >Below is text of the petition. Those resident
> > in
> > > > Norway who wish to append
> > > > >their signatures to it can also sign
> > electronically
> > > > by sending an email
> > > > >with the heading "Petition" to:
> > [log in to unmask]
> > > > >
> > > > >Gjenopprett offentlig tillit til
> > > > Utlendingsdirektoratet (UDI)!
> > > > >
> > > > >Familiegjenforening - en menneskerett!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
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