Freedom of Speech is one of the most misused phrases, it does have its limitations, be it a constitution, rules or other safeguards. I assume you do follow rules at your work place or any institution or group you join. There are rules here(Gambia-L) that has been circumvented, rendering the rules useless in the process. All I'm saying is this rule should apply to all of us. Enforcing this rule won't gag Daffeh/smballow or his Peace Justice colleagues. They can subscribe to the list and send their postings here from their individual e-mail address' like everyone else. Unless there is something untoward, I don't think any reasonable person will reject this solution. Though you haven't noticed, no one is trying to curtail their freedom of speech.

 

BBC, Foroyaa, Newstateman etc...are establisled reputable institutions. For these organisations publishing garbage will have an adverse effect on their organisations, Daffeh dosen't have that worry. Now the difference is Daffeh comments on issues that are been discussed here, but you can only hear him shouting from the top of the ''Bantaba tree''( garthering under a tree), then disappear into thin air--no matter how fast you lift your head up:-). If Daffeh's pieces discussed, for example how to fly to Mars on a tree branch--then  people will probably just delete it. All of Daffeh's pieces encroaches on topics been discussed here, that's not a problem if he does it interactively.

 

Again freedom of speech should be exercised within the confines of the law/rules of the enviroment you are in.

 

Jah

 

 



	-----Original Message----- 

	From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list on behalf of Ginny Quick 

	Sent: Wed 08/03/2006 13:25 

	To: [log in to unmask] 

	Cc: 

	Subject: Selective Forwarding / Re: List Manager(s): SS. Daffeh/Peace Justice

	

	



	Hello, all, while I understand some people's concerns about Saihou

	Mballow forwarding emails from SS Daffeh, if we start saying who can

	or can't forward, or what one can or can't post / forward, where does

	it stop?  People forward various things here all the time, from the

	Foroya to the New Statesman, among other things, and no one in the

	past has said anything about that.  Is the issue that there isn't a

	means of commenting and giving feedback to the one writing /

	forwarding the articles, or is it just that people disagree and so

	they feel the need to say something?

	

	     If you're going to start banning forwards, you should ban

	everyone or ban no one.  I don't think it's fair to just pick on one

	person, simply because you disagree with what they are saying.

	

	     If I read an issue of Forya or the New Statesman and I feel that

	what they are saying is wrong, or their logic or use of statistics are

	faulty, do I have a means to comment directly to them and thus give

	feedback?  If I don't, and this is just a mere forward, what is the

	difference between these forwards and what Saihou is forwarding?

	

	     I just don't see the "Daffeh" issue is that big of a deal.

	People forward stuff here all the time, and if I don't like it, most

	of the itme, I just delete it and move on.  And I think the

	condemnation of Saihou is a bit selective considering that there have

	been toher forwards that other people have sent in, that don't have a

	means whereby people can comment directly to the person, or, of

	course, the person isn't directly subscribed to the Gambia-l.

	

	     If the only difference between what Saihou is doing and what

	others have done is that the majority of the list members just don't

	agree with what he, or the author of the forward, is saying, than what

	does that say about people's supposed support of free speech and

	democracy?  If one truly believes in free speech and democracy, then

	one must not try to silence someone that htey don't agree with.

	

	Ginny

	

	

	

	On 3/8/06, abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

	> Mr Momodou.S Sidibeh

	>   Thanks for your response. I think the present global historical reality

	> does not require whether politically you are allied to left or rights. The

	> British Labour party is a show case example after abolition of clause 4. The

	> second example is the corporate take over of china which is still under one

	> party communist rule. The third  example is closer to home Africa National

	> Congress of South Africa. Within the rank and file of ANC, composed of South

	> Africa Communist party, advocates of Scientific Socialism, Marxist humanist,

	> Nationalist, capitalist, etc. What was ANC's pathway to address dehumanise

	> economic realities of South African masse after liberation from the

	> aparthied regime? ANC, when into to adopted nothing order than neoliberal

	> economic policies dictate by the world bank and IMF.

	>   Mr Sidebeh you are wrong to think UDP is right wing political

	> organisation. Please I refer you to make a research into the party's

	> manifesto. UDP value nothing order social democracy with emphasis on rule of

	> law, constitution democracy and social justice. It is basic fundamental of

	> the party in the 1996 and 2001 election.

	>   Mr Sidibeh, just like the Libdem in United Kingdom within their ranks

	> consist right and left wing politicians but all what the groups share in

	> common is the liberal values. On the question of New Statesman,even with the

	> fact that New paper is seem in many quarter as a left wing press but  the

	> evolution in global politics enable the media to change lot of its utopian

	> views. It is like globalisation and its discontent in many perspective but

	> that does not mean that dynamic toward globalisation cannot address global

	> inequality and environmental issues.

	>   Once again have a good working week and I hope the progressive debate from

	> you end will continue.

	>

	> Momodou S Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

	>   Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh Balamang!

	>

	> I have the feeling you are wooing me into the UDP? That would be an

	> impossible sell.

	> I agree with you that for any coalition to remain stable (and infact

	> democratic) it ought to be led by " ...a leading opposition...", (your

	> words). But perhaps that is all you and I agree upon?

	> I must say that I am a little surprised to learn that you are a UDP militant

	> as you are the most prolific in feeding us a constant diet of leftist

	> analysis from the New Statesman. So what are you doing there? Can you or

	> your fellow UDPians tell me why you are supporting the UDP? Perhaps your

	> answers may give this debate the radical twist it so greatly needs.

	>

	> Good morning,

	> sidibeh

	>

	>

	> ----- Original Message -----

	> From: "abdoukarim sanneh"

	> To:

	> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:33 PM

	> Subject: Re: List Manager(s): SS. Daffeh/Peace Justice

	>

	>

	> > Mr Sidibeh thanks for your suggestion and I hope Mr Daffeh will soon

	> > subscribe to the debate individually as it will enrich the democractic

	> > debate in the forum. For the interest of the readership I am not part of

	> > NADD because the political party I subscribe to as a member is not part of

	> > the coalition.We are a masse base political party and are determine to

	> > pursue for the struggle as usual.Any coalition should be lead by a leading

	> > opposition and that is the stand of UDP Militants.

	> >

	> >

	>

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