Okay! Now I understand.Sorry for the intrusion though.
Regards Basss
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On 8/20/07, Emman Salaam <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hallo Bass,
>
>
> My name sounds Arabic as I am mixed Sarahuleh and Arabic. My father was
> student at the al-Azhar in Cairo where he met my mum and.... I came out
> shouting.
>
>
> I have reconnected to my roots in The Gambia and I feel more Gambian and
> more Sarahuleh than Arabic.
>
>
> What Jaiteh said about the illegal migration is correct. It is a pressure
> valve. Migration is part of human nature and people will always go were they
> can secure their basic necessites ofl ife.
>
>
> However, they should not forget contacting the Sarahulehs for "expert
> advice" on money-making. The Word JULA means "trader" in Sarahuels and is
> very old. A separate ethnic group called the JULA exists in Ivory Caost
> extenting the activites of the Sarahules as traders. Former Prime Minister
> Alhasan Ouattara is Jula.
>
>
> The word JULA can also be found in Bambara/Bamana in Mali and is often use
> to describe the Sarahules who are also known as "Maraka" in Sierra Leone and
> Guinea
>
>
> Politically speaking, the Sarahuleh are still not that active, except in
> Mali and Mauritania where they have political influence. In Niger the
> current President Tandja is Sarahule and the Senegasle PM Hadjibou Soumare
> is Sarahule.
>
> CAN ANYONE NAME SOME GAMBIAN SARAHULEHS WHO ARE IN POLITICS OR ARE RISING
> POLITICAL STARS? I cannot go further with my resarch.
>
> Peace
>
>
> Emman
> ************************************
> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> > Datum: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 12:48:44 +0100
> > Von: BASS DRAMMEH <[log in to unmask]>
> > An: [log in to unmask]
> > Betreff: Re: The road a showdown over illegal migration
>
> > You know,in all fairness,it is not only the Tukolors that have refused
> to
> > eat the Mono, but my own children have followed suit,one reason why I
> > packed
> > my bags and came to Sukuru Kunda,since no real sarahuleh can survive
> > without
> > their daily dose of this porridge.Now the transformed Tukulors and the
> > half-Sarahuleh, half Americans can eat their pop tarts in faraway
> > Babylon,and we the blue blood Sarahulehs can eat our monos in Sukuru
> > Kunda.
> >
> > On a different note,I am a little bit confused about Emman.First, his
> name
> > and surname sound more Saudi than Gambian.Then came his first response
> > which
> > seemed to indicate that he was a mankanaso person.And now this second
> > response of his insinuates that he is a member of my clan.Am baffled!
> Can
> > he
> > tell me where he really belongs.Because I know for a fact that if you
> > deduct
> > the mankanaso contents from both Mr. Samateh and Dr. Jaiteh the sum will
> > be
> > naught.But am not so sure the same equation applies to Emman Sallam.
> >
> > Regards Basss
> >
> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/18/07, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Bass,
> > > I seriously wanted to ignore you,it seems you are on a mission: I
> swear
> > I
> > > know that it`s +been a long time since you last tackle "mono" and I am
> > just
> > > being told that the TOkolor`s are never known to like "Mono". Keep
> this
> > in
> > > mind,we are too advance to venture through the Anlantic,we have enough
> > bank
> > > statements in circulation to make a direct journey. Even you your self
> > know
> > > how we make our monies.......through pure sweat,picking up potatoes or
> > > tomatos; oh your clansmen,just forget their trade Mark...
> > > for freedom
> > > saiks> Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 00:00:20 +0100> From: [log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: The road a showdown over illegal migration> To:
> > > [log in to unmask]> > I think I owe it to my Sarahuleh
> clansmen
> > > not to allow the mankasoo people> have the last word on this important
> > > subject.Despite Mr.Samateh's breast> beating triumphalism,Mr Emmams
> data
> > > supporting his claim have less than one> leg to stand on.Anybody who
> has
> > > been watching Gambia Tv.knows that the> totality of boat people
> > > intercepted by agents of the Gambia Police Force> over recent months
> > hail
> > > not from the Alongharis of the Gambia ,but Mankanaso> capitals like
> > Alkali
> > > Kunda, Jarjari, Sali Kenyeh and the like.Even more> damning than that,
> > > eighty percent of the twenty-thousand Gambians resident> in Spain are
> > > Badibunkas.That is an outrageous disproportion,considering the> fact
> > that
> > > their share of the Gambia population is well below ten>
> > percent.SoEmmamsattempt to pin this one on the Sarahulehs is doomed> to
> failure.> > Regards
> > > Basss> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@> > > On 8/17/07, samateh saikou <
> > > [log in to unmask]> wrote:> >> > Emman,> > Who are you ? I just did
> > not
> > > want to talk,waiting for great people like> > you to tell Bass the
> real
> > > thing.Thanks for doing so.> > For Freedom> > Saiks> Date: Fri, 17 Aug
> > 2007
> > > 00:00:09 +0200> From: [log in to unmask]>> > Subject: Re: The road a
> showdown
> > > over illegal migration> To:> > [log in to unmask]> > Hello
> Bass
> > > Drammeh,> > Thanks, I just to> > help add power to your this point:> >
> >
> > > "Badibunka discovery has made such a> > splash and impact in the
> Gambia
> > > that> even the proverbial money mongers of> > the Gambia,the
> Sarrahulehs
> > > have started contemplating abandoning their> > traditional diamond
> > > speculatiing adventures in Congo and Angola for the> > Spanish
> > bandwagon.">
> > > > > Experices trallevers say that the proverbial money> > mogners of
> the
> > > Gambia, the Sarahules, have bee in SPAIN since in the 1960s> > at the
> > same
> > > time they "conquered" France.> > > If you have time, you can> > visit
> > the
> > > town of Gambisarra, Allunhari, Garawol, Sabi, Kumbeja, etc to see> >
> the
> > > bombastic villas!> > > So their Baddibunak "cousins" are following
> > their> >
> > > examples - 40 years later - not the other way round.> > Emman Salaam>
> >
> > > >>
> > > > -------- Original-Nachricht --------> Datum: Wed, 15 Aug 2007
> > 11:26:17> >
> > > +0100> Von: BASS DRAMMEH <[log in to unmask]>> An:> >
> > > [log in to unmask]> Betreff: Re: The road a showdown over
> > > illegal> > migration> > > The entire Badibou landscape has now been
> > > profoundly> > transformed thanks to> > the Euro money transfers coming
> > from
> > > the Badibunka> > diaspora resident in> > the> > various Spanish
> > > provinces.Most of the> > erstwhile Mankanaso farms> > in Badibou have
> > now
> > > given way to modern> > building complexes with most of> > the> >
> modern
> > > amenities known in Badibou> > as Self Containoo, powered by solar> >
> > panels
> > > and made livable by the access> > to clean running water and stand
> and>
> > >
> > > ceiling fans.All of a sudden the> > Badibunkas have made a powerful> >
> > > discovery!> > They have just discovered> > that in lieu of selling
> Fogga
> > > Jays (used> > clothes)> > at the Sukuru Kunda> > market for donkey
> years
> > > without making ends meet,they> > could just sell> > their stalls to
> the
> > > Faanafaanas or Nigerians for sixty> > thousand> > Dalasis,pay the
> > Spannish
> > > middlemen for forty thousand,use the> > balance as> > pocket money
> > whilst
> > > trying to get work in> > Spain.Andnotwithstanding the> > occasional
> > > tragedies and misshaps here> > and there,the> > Badibunka> > discovery
> > has
> > > made such a splash and impact in the Gambia that> > even the> >
> > proverbial
> > > money mongers of the Gambia,the Sarrahulehs have> > started> >> >
> > > contemplating abandoning their traditional diamond speculatiing
> > adventures>>
> > > > > in Congo and Angola for the Spanish bandwagon.> > > > Anybody who
> > knows>
> > > > the strenght and intensity of this wave in the Gambia> > right now,
> > knows>
> > > > that not even a ten million Euro skill center is capable> > of
> > stemming> >
> > > either the wave or dampening the spirits or the NERVES, as it> > is>
> >>
> > >
> > > commoly known here.But that is not to say that we should not accept
> the>
> > > >> > offer.Of course we should! We need that Skill Center regardless
> of
> > > who> >> > gives> > it to us and what the conditions for constructing
> it
> > > are.TheGambia> > government on its part will do some window dressing
> > here
> > > and> > there,if> > nothing else but to impress upon the spanish
> > authorities
> > > that it> > is doing> > something about the matter.That is how the Game
> > is
> > > played.> >> > > > The Badibunkas and their emulators,in the
> > meantime,will
> > > continue to> > devise> > more ingenius and dangerous ways of getting
> > into
> > > Barcelona and> > other> > Spanish> > cities.That wave will continue
> > > unabated ,regardless of> > what the Gambian> > Government will
> do,until
> > the
> > > dangers and risks involved> > have reached a> > critical mass,or
> atleast
> > the
> > > Gambia public perception of> > those dangers> > reach> > that
> > point.Shortof reaching that point,any> > attempts to stem the tide is> >
> doomed to
> > > failure.And who said You Cannot> > Have Your Cake And Eat It At The> >
> > > Same Time?!> > > > Regards Basss> > > >> > @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@>
> >
> > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 8/14/07, Edie Sidibeh <> > [log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:>
> > > > >> > > As you rightfully protested,> > this is really a meaningful
> > > analysis even> > > whereas, I am not good in> > numbers, I can
> > understand
> > > the simplicity of> > its> > > analysis. Then> > again, Dr. Jaiteh,
> > orthodox
> > > of Gambian believe also> > protested> > > the> > fact that, what is
> > meant to
> > > happen cannot be prevented, therefore> > those>> > > > who are meant
> to
> > > brake the barrier and enter Spain, will or cannot be> >> > >
> compromised
> > by
> > > 1 million dalasis.> > >> > > However, Million Dalasi is a> > huge
> amount
> > if
> > > they spend it rightfully and> > > will benefit lots and lots> > of the
> > > youths as well as the country to gain> > > skillful and meaningful> >
> > > education regarding if coupled with better> > educator> > > in the
> said>
> > >
> > > Fields of studies. undeniably, Africa have placed herself in> > a> > >
> > > Marcy> > situation in the eye of the west and therefore, before we
> open
> > up>
> > > > our> >> > > eyes we have to be cleaver in playing their games of
> > politic
> > > by> >> > accepting> > > their offers and put it in good use to benefit
> > our
> > > countries> > and the> > people.> > > I am well aware of the fact that
> I
> > am a
> > > dreamer but> > just a wisdom.> > however,> > > west are well aware of
> > the
> > > fact of> > corruption level in Africa and> > therefore> > > send
> > billions of
> > > dollars to> > Africa knowing quite well that they will not> > be> > >
> > use to
> > > their> > purposes but end up in their own banks to yet make addition>
> >
> > >
> > > profit on> > the same loan given to us just like our coffees and
> other>
> > >
> > > natural> > >> > resources.> > >> > > How many coffee factories are in
> > the
> > > west? and how many> > chocolate> > > factories? how many employees
> does
> > > those factories employed?> > how much do> > > they get the raw
> materials
> > and
> > > how much do they sell the> > finish product> > back> > > to us?
> > therefore
> > > playing their game by taking> > their money for loan and> > put> > >
> it
> > in
> > > proper education and job creation> > for our people and later asked> >
> > for>
> > > > > dept cancellation will then be> > proper and profitable for our
> > > continent I> > > assumed. I personally think,> > corruption and
> > > mismanagement played a> > > significant part in our> > development. If
> > this
> > > was not the case, Africa by> > now> > > should be> > heaven on earth
> due
> > to
> > > the our rightful trillions of dollars> > pump> > > in> > from the west
> > which
> > > end up bach to where it came from just like our> > >> > product.> > >
> > Edi> >
> > > >> > > Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:>> > > > IThe
> > > employment figures for the same group show only 454,682 (66%) do> >> >
> > not>
> > > > > know what the Daily Observer mean by illegal migration but> > >> >
> > makes
> > > me wonder what this showdown will bring. First, may I ask how many> >>
> >
> > >
> > > of the 20,000 "illegal migrants" in Spain are minors? and what is the>
> >
> > >>
> > > > breakdown of their educational status? Also would increase training
> > of> >
> > > >> > Gambians in agriculture, carpentry, fishinng, construction,
> > > electricity> > >> > really curb this "illegal migration"? The 2003
> > census
> > > figures show of> > >> > the 689,201 Gambians aged 15 years and over,
> > 272,762
> > > (40%) had no> > >> > education, 52,517 (8%) no more than primary edu,
> > 176930
> > > (26%) some for> > >> > of secondary education, 13360 (under 2%) with
> > > vocational training> > >> > including teachers, 2309 (3 tenths of 1%)
> > with
> > > undergrad education, 2357> >> > > (3 tenths of 1%) graduate education
> > and
> > > 1467 (2 tenths of 1%) post> > >> > graducate education. Please note
> that
> > > about about 167499(23% ) claim not> >> > > to belong to any of the
> above
> > > groups.> > >> > > It is interesting to note> > that only 6,133
> Gambians
> > > living in the Gambia> > > in 2003 reported having a> > university
> degree
> > > (undergrad to Post grad).> > > You wonder how that figure> > compare
> to
> > that
> > > of all Gambian-born degree> > > holders? A database of> > health
> > > professionals emigrating from Africa> > > (Michael Clemens and> >
> > Gunilla
> > > Pettersson 2006) showed that there are 46> > > (53%) Gambian-born> >
> > > physicians (Doctors in medicine) liing in nine> > > countries abroad>
> >
> > > compared to 40 living in the Gambia. The number of is> > > much higher
> > with>
> > > > practicing nurses with 282 living in nine countries> > > abroad
> > compared
> > > to> > 144 in the Gambia. It is interesting to note is that> > > none
> of
> > > these were> > said to be living in Spain.> > >> > >> > > reported
> being
> > > employed. Of these> > over 215,592 (47%) are crop producers> > >
> > > agriculture, 63,978 (14%) in> > Service, Shop & Market Sales; 13% in>
> >
> > >
> > > crafts and related trade, 10%> > elementary occupation(whatever that
> > is),> >
> > > > 3% professionals, 6% clerks,> > technicials and associate
> > professionals.>
> > > > > With the government all but> > abandoned buying groundnuts, you
> > wonder
> > > how> > > many of the 215,592 would> > stay on the land. And if they do
> > not
> > > would be> > > re-trained under the new> > partnership to promote
> social
> > and
> > > professional> > > cohesion (whatever that> > is)?> > >> > > The truth
> > is,
> > > someone must be kidding to believe that a 1> > million Euro> > > skill
> > > center will check this "illegal migration". The new> > partnership if>
> >
> > >
> > > anything is the latest in this global outsourcing> > project. In
> effect>
> > > >
> > > lets pay the Gambian government one million Euros to> > police our
> > border> >
> > > > for us. While the partnership may help Spain cater> > for her
> > citizens,> >
> > > > what does it leave the Gambian people? It would help> > to know that
> > > about> > > 665,000 (48%) of the total population are between 10> > and
> > 34
> > > years old.> > > If the government is to succeed, it must present a> >
> > > convincing case that> > > it is not in effect and agent of the
> Spanish>
> > >
> > > border police. And that it> > > as the people's representative is> >
> > > representing their interest by> > > accepting 1 million Euro for
> closing
> > > the> > border.> > >> > > Failure to present a convincing case could
> > leave a
> > > very> > significant> > > proportion of the population feeling deprived
> > of
> > > their only> > opportunity> > > to a better life. Like a desperate herd
> > > breaking into a> > neigbor's> > > garden, it should not surprise us to
> > see
> > > desperate citizens> > doing> > > desperate things to survive.> > >> >
> >>
> > > >
> > > Malanding Jaiteh> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Gambia: Curbing
> > Illegal
> > > Migration> > >> > >> > >> > The Daily Observer (Banjul)> > >> > > 10
> > August
> > > 2007> > > Posted to the web> > 13 August 2007> > >> > > The Gambia and
> > > Spain, following the June 2007 Joint> > Committee Plan,> > > agreed
> > > yesterday to strengthen the partnership> > agreement in order to> > >
> > check
> > > illegal immigration of minors, and to> > promote the social and> > >
> > > professional cohesion of this category.> > >> >> > > By financing 1M
> > Euros
> > > Skills Training Centre, where young Gambians will> >> > > receive and
> > > venture into several activities (agriculture, carpentry,> > >> >
> > fishing,
> > > construction, electricity), it calls for the setting up of a> > >> >
> > > permanent mechanism, aimed at curbing illegal immigration through> >
> >>
> > >
> > > prevention, social-pedagogical and formation measures.> > >> > > It> >
> > > recommends also that when young Gambians are well-trained, they will>
> >
> > >> >
> > > notably be exposed to the dangers posed by illegal migration.> > >> >
> > > Consequently, they would act legally to Spain or other places.> > >> >
> >
> > As>
> > > > the Gambian community in Spain already attained the level of 20,000>
> >
> > >>
> > > > migrants, the way forward lies on the necessity to move towards a
> > real> >
> > > >> > showdown over illegal migration.> > >> > > Even if the issue
> > exposes a
> > > deep> > and bitter rift within the public> > > opinion, there is a
> need
> > to
> > > sensitise> > people on the dangers relating to> > > illegal
> migration.>
> > > >>
> > > > >> > >> >> >
> >
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