Bailo,
I have had a series of private exchanges with Modou, and I can
also detect his sharp intellect and wit. It is not surprising, though,
given that he has been a journalist with foroyaa. There has been a
consistent knowledge base in the approach that PDOIS sympathizers
address issues; and it all falls within the contours of what PDOIS has
been arguing for years. That is why it would be difficult to separate
how Halifa thinks with what Modou writes.
Rene
-----Original Message-----
From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
Modou,
I ought to point out that you are so articulate in your contributions
that some of our fellow G-Lers think that Halifa is the one writing for
you. It is really funny. That's a credit for you. Keep it up.
I also highly appreciate your role of sharing with us Foroyaa articles
that ever focus on pertinent Gambian issues.
Finally, I must also commend you for not reciprocating against the
Halifa-haters by bashing their preferred candidate. That said,
everybody reserves the right to...................................
Bailo
--- On Wed, 17/2/10, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 18:07
Koto Bailo, thanks again for your wise counsel. This approach is not
the most desirable especially at this time and period of our troubles.
Nonetheless, sometimes trashing out issues is necessary in an attempt
to find a common ground. What i am doing now is the least i had
expected to be involved in rather it is the opposite that interests me
the most.
However, i cannot just watch a gang of few spreading lies and rumours
in such respectable foras with many a senior citizens of ours. And to
your question, NO, i do not see my self as having any influence in any
decision whatsoever at this period. I just happen to have some opposing
views to what is being paraded as the best solution to our problem.
May be i am wrong too.
Nyang
--- On Wed, 2/17/10, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 11:22 AM
Gentlemen,
I don't know whether you realised that you are still going round in
circles. If a united opposition stance against the dictatorship
depended on you, then the dictator is at greatly at ease. Please tell
me you have near zero influence in this regard.
While you are still going round and round, the incumbent is busy
misusing our public funds buying the loyalty of unsuspecting Gambian
voters. Please let us instead give emphasis to alerting our friends and
relatives that all these donations by the dictator is merely to buy to
entrench his tyranny over Gambians. Abdoukarim, you and Banka need to
work on Brufut.
I could already hear some political pundit telling us that since any
future Government in the Gambia is likely to resort to such tactics
albeit on a lower scale, then it is no big deal. It is indeed a big
deal.
All said and done, it remains the right of every qualified Gambian who
wishes to contest for political office to do so. Therefore no person
should be maligned into supporting another's candidate. That's
coercion! It is both uncivilised and unacceptable. I expect the
leadership of the UDP or NADD alliances not to resort to or fall for
this.
Halifa is not the barrier to the realisation of Ousainou's presidential
ambitions, nor is Ousainou the obstacle to the fulfilment of Halifa's
Agenda 2011. Let us therefore stop feigning that such is the case.
Finally, I urge you all to leave my niece, Kumba Gaye out of this
discussion; she is just 12 and have no interest, whatsoever in
politics. Let the writer try another pen-name.
Bailo
--- On Wed, 17/2/10, yanks dabo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: yanks dabo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 13:25
Suntu
Who does this Modou Nyang thinks he is; asking you to call "Darboe and
ask him
whether they have reached the decision that the only alliance he Darboe
and the
UDP would be a part of is one which endorses his candidature for the
2011
Presidential elections".
Maaaaaaaaaan!!! Tell this Ndokey Nyang not to play with us! Who does he
thinks
we are; his errand boys!!
As for his claim that he wants "to be fair to the UDP leadership. I
know they are
matured people and know what is at stake. We are dealing with the
future of the
Gambia and I do not want to judge the UDP by the words of its
sycophants".
He seems too late for to reckon that fact, as he had already
been unfair to the UDP
leadership and judged the UDP leadership in his reaction to the UDP
UK's rejoinder.
Less that reaction had not been written by Nyang but by his Halifa
Sallah; to make
him not to realise his errors.
One other point for Mr Nyang, is that we wait for his article about why
UDP's strategy
will fail, which he promised to publish on Freedomnewspaper. I'm sure
his knows it will
no go unchallenged.
Yanks
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:07:24 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Suntou, one more thing before I come Daffeh’s way. This just came to me
while scribbling in response to Sonny. Because you are the coordinator,
I saw your photo with Darboe during his visit to the UK, you look good
bro, however that still does not make put you in major decision making
position in the party especially with regards to opposition unity.
And when I wrote to Uncle Haruna the following: "If you want to be
Darboe’s Press Secretary could you give us the UDP position on the way
forward instead of pouring venom on Halifa for being bold enough to
come up with concrete proposals?", Yanks tried to take ownership of it.
But I am not interested in his ranting but only for the part he quoted
Daffeh as thus: "Halifa Sallah and his PDOIS Party should put their
personal pride, egos and idealism aside and immediately embrace a UDP
led alliance without any obnoxious precondition whatsoever". This is
where I want to tackle Daffeh.
But before that I need your help first. I want to be fair to the UDP
leadership. I know they are matured people and know what is at stake.
We are dealing with the future of the Gambia and I do not want to judge
the UDP by the words of its sycophants. Before I write I would want you
to call Darboe and ask him whether they have reached the decision that
the only alliance he Darboe and the UDP would be a part of is one which
endorses his candidature for the 2011 Presidential elections.
I am still not convinced that the UDP leadership will be calling on
people to give it money so that it prepares for failure. That is
political suicide and any body who helps them in that venture must be
seen to be either driven by nepotism, tribalism or opportunism. Only
people who are infected with such disease could reason in the
irrational manner Sonny Daffeh chose to do. The issue that the UDP
Sycophants refuse to look at is how to bring about change.
Suntou, please do this for the sake of our country. I know you were
with Darboe not long ago but you can talk to him again at least one
more time. Agreed? Good, and thank you. I will be expecting you within
the next 24 hours to give a reply and I will then prove to you that it
is the positions you take which makes Agenda 2011 the best option
available so far for those who want change.
That is why you are focusing on hate messages against Halifa and not
showing why the agenda is unworkable. I am using my real name but you
people are hiding to a point of using the name Kumba Gaye to attack me
for exposing the bankruptcy of your position.
Nyang
--- On Mon, 2/15/10, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 8:50 PM
Modou, I can see that you are desperate to tag me with every negative
jargon. Bring them on. What you are failing to notice is that, the way
UDP dominate in terms of support on the ground, is the same right where
you are. So hold your horse on the negativity, it doesn't bother me.
KKK, we know who the real ones are.Suntou and his UDP fellow members
are focus on what matters, exposing the dubious political propaganda by
Halifa is just a small part of our work. Don't get affected to the
level you are willing to stoop low as some of your coward colleagues.
Halifa should also stop writing stuffs for you, people can tell the
difference. It is making me cringe, in as much as wish to see him do
the right thing, taking unnecessary disastrous route is something i
don’t recommend he will do.Wherever Suntou is confirmed a KKK, Modou
Nayan and his friends will be loyal members too.Too cheap friendSuntou
On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Modou Nyang
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Uncle Haruna, I got you loud and clear. You do not want to wade into
political mathematics and you are not the Press Secretary of the UDP.
There is nothing for us to debate. I will then go back to the UK club.
However I must tell you that I have noticed in your writing that there
is a generation gap between us. This is why you cannot identify some of
my cultural symbolism's. Even though it is out of place for a nephew to
give advise to an uncle I do see the desire in you to do something
constructive for the Gambia. I therefore hope that you will give up the
posture which gives you the image of a person who want to be on top of
every body else.
I really could not understand what problem you have in the provisions
of the constitution being disseminated in a practical and relevant way
ad infinitum. It is our national document and we need to know it to
promote the rule of law. I also could not understand why you felt that
those who give birth to educated children cannot understand government
budgets if explained in their own language. The problem of the Gambia
is not the people but those who claim to know but are illiterates in
our local languages. Hence they cannot communicate what they have
learned to the grass-roots.
Certain kinds of information are meant for the goose and another to the
gander. I certainly wanted to challenge you on your comments regarding
the Brufut donations but now I think I will leave you alone. However, I
will not close my chapter with you for the moment without expressing my
disappointment at your comment that you did not read Agenda 2011 but
used it as toilet paper.
Please don’t be a partner to Suntou’s friend whose Ku-Klux-Clan and
Rush Limburg attitude is so full of hate and prejudice that does not
allow him to see good in anyone who does not bow down to his wishes.
Uncle Haruna Halifa and those in their fifties belong to the last
group of the generation of people who have now reached retirement age
and you the people in your 40s (am guessing, as you informed me that
Sam was your teacher) belong to the first group who should be leading
our generation. I feel ashamed that those of us in our 30s could be
reading such vulgar words from people who should be our role models.
You must promise that any time you speak again you will do so as a
responsible elder who aims to inspire the generation just after you. If
we follow the footsteps of Suntu and the haters Gambia is in trouble
for a long time to come. I will now devote my time to them to prevent
them from misleading themselves since they can mislead no other person
in the world. There intolerance is already becoming apparent. Even
Jeggan is now PDOIS even though he is advocating for a primary that
include people who are not members of political parties. What could be
more democratic than that? To them it must be their leader or no one
else. We are now beginning to see who the real sycophants are.
Nyang
--- On Mon, 2/15/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:24 PM
Yanks, Thanx for sharing. Although I don't know the man, but I liken
Daffeh to Carl Rove and James Carville. The man is simply excellent.
You would wish UDP/NRP had a 1000 Daffehs, Karambas, SUntous, Ansus,
and Yankses.
Aaaaaaallleeeeeh! Haruna.
----Original Message-----
From: yanks dabo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
For the attention of Modou Nyang, Pa Samba Jow (Coach), Halifa Sallah,
and the rest of the anti-UDP
Movement!
I bring to your attention this article culled from freedomnewspaper,
though with a slight change to its heading!
NADD Should Have Done Better
By Sonny Daffeh, UK
Mr Editor,
Please allow me space to respond to Jeggan Grey-Johnson’s article of
9th February 2010 which was published in your well established medium
under the heading; ‘‘Agenda 2011; The Opposition Leaders Must Do the
Right Thing.’’
While I agree that the opposition should get it right this time around,
I do not however agree that Agenda 2011 is the right basis for this.
This is an ill-conceived theory that was propounded by a disingenuous
political ideologue on the basis of two premises namely; that the NADD
alliance did not work because it was unable to gather significant
amount of votes in the 2006 presidential elections, and also that the
UDP led alliance did not work because it had registered a drop in votes
from their 2001 electoral standing. While I agree with the former, I
beg to differ with the latter. That premise is not only flawed, it is
also fraught with the propounder's very own personal prejudice against
a possible UDP led alliance in 2011.
Although, it is true that the UDP registered a drop in votes from their
2001 standing, this however cannot be attributed to the type of
alliance [party led alliance] they adopted in 2006. As was rightly
indicated in the UDP- UK rejoinder of 1st February 2010, UDP’s drop in
votes resulted from two things; their own lack of adequate preparation
thanks to their prior membership of NADD, and the unprecedented low
voter turnout [58.58%] that was witnessed in 2006 which when compared
to the 2001 voter turn-out [89.71%], indicates a drop of 31.13% and
this is notwithstanding the fact that the national voter register had
been updated with 219,630 new voters in 2006. Going by the results of
2006 presidential election, it doesn’t appear that these voters had
voted for a different party rather than the UDP. They just didn’t vote.
Otherwise, why is it that NADD barely crossed over the 5% threshold?
Some might argue that the low voter turn-out was a direct result of
opposition disunity. While this may be true, it does not however lend
any credence to Agenda 2011 as there is no evidence which suggests that
this was a specifically directed protest against the UDP led alliance.
Even if the connection between opposition disunity and the voter
turn-out is validly made and I am not saying it is not, it would appear
that the situation would still have been the same irrespective of
whatever type of alliance any party might have chosen to adopt, be it
party led alliance, the so-called umbrella party or indeed a grand
coalition. Therefore, it is not the nature of party led alliance that
is the issue here but the factors that inhibited the realisation of its
full potentials in 2006. That is what folks with genuine interest in
opposition unity want to talk about, not some kind of superficial
political theories that are specifically invented to circumvent the
rules of conventional politics in furtherance of a particular
individual’s selfish agenda. A grand coalition as spelled-out in Agenda
2011 is pretty much akin to the NADD coalition - the only difference
being the name - and would be vitiated with the same problems that
eventually led to the breakdown of NADD. Hence, it is not an option. It
is just a mere but crude academic exercise. Therefore and instead of
asking the leaders to commit the same mistake and somehow expect a
different result or levelling false accusations against the leadership
of the United Democratic Party – accusing them of paying a lip service
to the call for unity -, Jeggan should have been bold enough to ask
Halifa Sallah and his PDOIS Party to put their personal pride, egos and
idealism aside and immediately embrace a UDP led alliance without any
obnoxious precondition whatsoever. That is the only thing that has
never happened before and it is about time history is made.
The UDP has proven itself over and over of being the dominant force in
Gambia’s opposition politics. Any future alliance/coalition of all
opposition parties must therefore be built around them. This is a
sacred principle of any democratic political dispensation and no amount
of spinning and hypocrisy will be allowed to circumvent it. The earlier
the fringe parties recognise this, the better for our chances of
forging a unified alliance of all opposition parties against the ruling
APRC in 2011. This is not about helping someone to become an elite as
Halifa would say. It is about adhering to the rules of conventional
politics; coalitions are usually led by the biggest party in the group.
Jeggan’s suggestion of a primary election as a mechanism for selecting
a candidate for a possible coalition of all opposition parties is both
misplaced and untenable. Primaries are normally an internal party
contest where individuals contest for the leadership/candidature of a
given party in a forthcoming general election. Coalitions of
independent sovereign political parties don’t contest primaries to
determine who their leader should be. That is normally determined by
the results of the preceding general election. This is what we have
seen in Israel, Germany and Italy just to name a few. There is no
reason why this should not apply to the opposition in the Gambia.
In 2006, 127,473 electorates voted for the opposition combined. Out of
this, 81% voted for the UDP candidate and 19% for NADD – the so-called
PDOIS and PPP-OJ coalition – This exhibits a clear expressed will of
the Gambian people which is valid for five years – it expires only
after the 2011 presidential election – and have therefore effectively
rendered the whole idea of a primary utterly obsolete as a legitimate
candidate can easily be determined from these statistics.
Jeggan’s claim that PPP-OJ and PDOIS coalition [NADD] registered an
increase of 100% in their 2006 score is really laughable. I couldn’t
stop asking myself whether he is in his trees. This shows that our dear
friend is detached from both the facts and the political reality on the
ground. PPP and PDOIS never contested a general election together as an
alliance prior to the 2006 presidential election. Hence, there is no
prior statistics that could be used to determine whether they have
registered an increase or a decrease in 2006. What is however crystal
clear is that this alliance or whatever they chose to call it, is not
fit for purpose for it is an extremely weak one. Out of forty-eight
constituencies, they had 1,000 or more votes in only five
constituencies. In thirty-three constituencies, they had less than 1000
votes and in ten constituencies less than 100 votes. I see no potential
in such a diabolical electoral performance.
As for who leads the UDP, that is a matter for the general membership
and if Jeggan doesn’t like the current leader, he should join the party
before its upcoming congress and fight from within. Otherwise, he
should, frankly speaking, shut up.
I hope he will do more research next time before going to the press.
SS Daffeh
Essex, UK
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:55 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
"...The issue is in fact not so much about the figures but the
ludicrous claim that they somehow indicates a manifestation of
electoral shun on the nature of alliances adopted by both NADD and UDP
led alliance prior to the 2006 presidential election i.e. party led
alliance and the so-called umbrella party. That is absolute nonsense.
Although there may have been a degree of voter discontent over
opposition disunity or the incumbent’s employed harassment and
intimidation tactics,-depending on which side of the story you want to
believe- there is absolutely no evidence that the low voter-turnout
seen in 2006 was as a result of the types of alliance adopted by either
NADD or the UDP. This defeats the whole essence of Halifa’s agenda 2011
and that is exactly what UDP-UK rejoinder was all about..."
Suntou, with your above statement I am done with you and your other two
guys. I will focus on Uncle Haruna. And when I return you and your
friends might have solved their invented puzzle of who is chatting with
them.
Uncle Haruna, do not worry much about Coach understanding your posting.
I am with you all the way. Just bear with me a little I will be back.
--- On Sat, 2/13/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010, 5:49 PM
Suntou,
I take your counsel into advisement. Pa Samba is a dear friend. He and
I will come to understandings. It takes a little nudging and
explanation for him but it shall come to pass. I am not a novice at
conflict resolution.
Here is what I advise of you though.
Today, today. If Halifa for some reason went into a trans and declared
- Let us have a total opposition union and let UDP/NRP lead it, wIll
you and UDP/NRP waste your times to join
PDOIS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
This is the question I want you and UDP/NRP and even GMC to ponder.
After you do, you will throw away Agenda-2011 and focus on building
your parties and alliances. As I can see, both UDP/NRP and GMC have
shortcomings in party administration that leave a lot to be desired.
Simple tasks take days or months to complete if at all. When your
leader is busy defending Femi Peters, the party's entire activities
stop. WHY???? If Ousainou is not free, the party's executive committee
need to ensure the continued functioning of the party. WHY is that?
Some due-diligence does not require money. Organising and visiting with
your supporters regularly as far away as Koina and Jimara and
cultivating new supporters should be done all the time, Ousainou or no
Ousainou. NADD/PDOIS has the same problem or worse. But the time you
partisans spend on chatter could be better used developing your
parties. The way I see it, none of the parties is capable of governing
Gambia in this state. And if you should dream about forming a singular
union, you will have multiplied the inefficiencies ten-fold.
So focus your time and energies on value - building and strangthening
your parties. We are not interested in a United Opposition any more. At
least we will not depend on that idea as the means to remove Yahya. So
don't feel burdened to form a united opposition on account of the
people.
Thank you and may DaarManso continue to bless all of you in your
self-interests.
Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
Haruna, your comments are simple, logical and straight forward. But the
sad facts is that, some people cannot even think for themselves without
Sallah telling them how. Halifa's attempt to be Jack of all trade meant
that, he did injustice to himself and UDP/NRP analysing absent voters
and the synergy effect with him being a mortal man could'nt quantify.
Halifa should display his formula of his cirtic of the UDP/NRP not
adding the absent voters to the pool. Absent voters affected all the
parties, including PDOIS and NDam.
Haruna, your efforts are honourable and honest. Where you criticise me
and my attempts, i recognise the reasoning in them. When we send our
rejoinder, Halifa's few fans in American made all sorts of noise, some
saying:
Halifa is under attack, we should stop all talks
Now who did we responded to? The wind or Halifa? Did this people
actually read anything Halifa wrote?
My hunch is they don't. But when Mr Grey-Johnson again repeated Halifa
mistakes, i didn't hear this people who nearly went into coma when we
their patron, when Darboe was branded power hungry etc by a misguided
bigoted partisan.
The two face mentality is the real reason Halifa is continuing what he
doing. Behind his back his own guys are dissolution with him, among
people, they defend his ideas even after knowing they don't make sense.
And as for Pasamba, true peace will come to pass when you are bold
enough to confront Halifa. But for now, it will be a dream.
Haruna, keep writing.
Suntou
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Haruna Darbo
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Olfactor you can't help but take a swipe at yours truly. What is wrong
with you men? I'll have you know you can't have a better friend than
Haruna. I just got off the phone with a friend. He tells me president
Clinton is doing marvelously and with our continued prayers, he should
be back up, straight up, to continue to assist in Haiti and Northern
Ireland. I told him I have a friend in Dublin who could hold the torch
for Ireland as the president recovers. So I messed up your hibernation
long before you perceived it. SOmeone will be looking for you over
there to lend all Ireland a hand as she works through devolution. Won't
you do Ireland a good turn? Migrant worker or not, you still live in
Ireland. So why go into hibernation on account of your friend Haruna
when you could be working for Northern Ireland???? Learn to not take,
take, take. Learn to give, give, give. Besides I did not hear where you
tried to get our mutual friend Demba out of box. I know your life has
some value. I just gotta figure it out for you. I still love you.
Now then Dad, you did a marvelous job in amicus of Halifa's electoral
arithemetic which you inform us was the basis for Agenda 2011. You must
be commended for this. It is what mortal man can expect of a partisan.
I totally admire your zeal and sport. I guess it is not necessary
therefore for me to read Agenda 2011 afterall. I will share some notes
with you and they will be brief.
In my view, Halifa's un-intended dishonesty does not lie in
the arithemetic adduand. As a philosopher and sociologist par
excellence, Halifa must have been taught that linear arithemetic is not
terribly valuable for philosophers and sociologists. That is why linear
algebra and additional math were introduced in those years where
sociologists and philosophers shared their agonies in explaining human
conditions and considerations. Throw in the philosopher and sociologist
who wishes to use politics to solve the landmark equations of social
engineering. Why do people vote? Why do they vote the way they do?
Let me be the first to share with you that the adduand exclusively
should not be considered in electoral arithemetic. You cannot explain
the distributive and associative properties only by using addition
alone, addition and subtraction alone, Or addition, subtraction, and
multiplication alone. Electoral arithemetic must include the use of
addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, the operations of
integral and derivative science are a complex use of these four, and
they cannot even begin to tackle electoral mathematics. Secondly, you
must endeavour to include the time value of elections and votes and the
time value of human considerations. That is where the accountant comes
to the aid of the philosopher/sociologist/politician. Even further,
electoral calculus contains some intractable variables such as personal
considerations of the voter that are a function of his/her state of
mind at the time of voting. What you must not do under any
circumstance, is to extrapolate or compare votes of different periods
or periodic elections. Your quandry is not complete even after you
satisfy the foregoing. There comes the matter of vote-buying,
vote-selling which Halifa himself was at pains to convince us happens
during the elections in Gambia. Well throw in the mix of the Gambian
voter's problems of Yahya's intimidations, electoral riggings, and
ballot stuffings, why you have just thoroughly discombabulated yourself.
In essence, the dishonesty displayed by Halifa, though unintended, is a
result of using a dishonest formula. Now when you skew that formula to
portray another opposition party as incapable to win future elections,
you burden straightforward dishonest calculus with odious bias. If the
premise therefore of AGENDA 2011 is the result of such arithemetic,
well you know the rest of the story.
Therefore, I urge Halifa to apologise to the readers of Agenda 2011 and
all other opposition parties, and when we work on a roadmap, to cease
redefining past elections in Gambia. Past election results in Gambia
will not afford any valuable or meaningful discernment for any
opposition party. And Foroyaa, based on such arithemetic wishes
opposition parties to go back to the drawing board. For what?????????
We are all unduly mesmerized by the sanctity of a total opposition
union. I advise sobriety and caution against disingenuity and pretense.
I commend you nonetheless for efforting amicus of Agenda 2011 and
Halifa.
Olfactor, any minute now you'll hear a knock on your door. Nobody
hibernates in Ireland anymore. She invests enormous amounts to market
herself as a lively tourist destination. You should help her in that
regard. I love you all.
Haruna.
-----Original Message-----
From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 4:54 am
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
Nyang,
Keep up the good work, however dealing with grouchy
characters is difficult, for reason and reality is not their forte. Let
me go back to my hibernation as our grouch par excellence here has
snorted at people who have decided to ignore his incessant and
vapid rambling. I do not want to be splattered by his grotty stuff, so
hibernation here we come.
Nyang once again keep the fire burning and keep helping me out of my
hibernation with your good work. Thanks for a very well written
piece.
Best,
Mboge
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Modou Nyang
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntu,
How Many times am I to prove that you do not do your homework well? I
can see that you are trying to get allies from all those People with
hate messages. This is weakening your course. Such hate messages cannot
isolate any one.. We have seen those types of people here in the US
during Obama’s campaign. They cannot explain why they hate him.
Consequently their hate messages worked out very well for Obama. Here
too you are giving Halifa more publicity than he has asked for. The
worse thing that you did to your self is to raise issues which led to
the challenge for Halifa to explain the role he played in NADD. I am
still waiting to read part 3 so that things will be clearer since your
camp is still trying to distort the truth even though no NADD leader
had come out in public to do so.
Your last hope to discredit Halifa is your claim that he distorted the
result of the 2001 Presidential elections just to prove that the UDP
lost more votes than it really did, when compared to 2006 so that its
leadership would be discredited. In my reaction to your rejoinder I
decided to skip the issue of the exact number of votes your party the
UDP had in the 2001 election in order to do a proper research on it. I
have now scanned the results of the 2001 Presidential elections with
the signature of the then Chairman of the Independent Electoral
Commission Gabriel Roberts.
However, before going into your distortion of the results I would want
to help one of your friends to understand what I meant when I said
Darboe was not brave enough to tell his colleagues what he wanted and
stuck by it before they ventured to form NADD. He misunderstood me
completely and strayed into accusing Halifa of promoting that a brave
person should be selected to lead an opposition alliance. My position
is that if Darboe is strongly convinced that he should lead and others
should follow. He should simply declare that for all to understand and
then proceed to sell his agenda to the people. Whoever wants to join
him would do so and those who would not want to join him would go on
with their own programmes. Since UDP is not ready to compromise on
leadership it should make that clear and stand by that decision and
should not join any arrangement where leadership would have to be
negotiated with other stakeholders.
let me now deal with the results of the 2001 Presidential elections.
Halifa made it clear in his Agenda 2011 that UDP had 149448 votes in
2001 while NRP had 35,671 votes. Please read the Agenda again. You will
get the real figures rather than approximations. If you want a copy of
the Agenda i will mail it to you electronically.
Halifa indicated that the two parties formed an alliance in 2006 along
with GPDP and had votes numbering 104,808 votes..Halifa concluded that
compared to the 2001 figures the two parties lost 80,301 votes. Where
then has Halifa gone wrong?
Could you not do simple addition and subtraction? Add 149,448 votes to
35,67. You should get 185,119 votes. Subtract 104,808 from 185,119.
What is your answer? Is it not 80,301 votes. Halifa is dead correct and
you the members of the UDP camp in the UK are dead wrong.
I have investigated and got the results a long time ago. I wanted to
check whether you have leaders who would guide you to know the truth.
The fact that you are still persisting in claiming that Halifa’s
figures are wrong has forced me to request for a scanned declaration of
results signed by The Chairman of the IEC and I hope you will now
apologise to Halifa for your misleading statements. I am surprised by
the fact that you are still clinging to the view that Halifa quoted
wrong figures even though your leaders in Banjul should be able to tell
you the truth instead of leaving you to humiliate yourselves before
world public opinion. I have decided to share the copy of the
declarations of the 2001 election results with the online media for all
to see for them selves since I cannot directly place it here unless as
an attachment.
Furthermore Suntou, you claim that it is the UDP who enabled Halifa to
win his Serrekunda Central Seat. Let us look at the results of the
elections in Serrekunda since the UDP was put up by the three major
parties of the first Republic, that is, the PPP, the NCP and the GPP.
In 1997, the UDP campaigned against Halifa Sallah in Serrekunda East
and put up a major PPP supporter, Bakary Manneh, as their candidate in
order to exploit OJ’s popularity as the MP at the time of the coup. The
results were as follows Halifa had 8, 529 votes, The UDP had 8,
067votes and the APRC had 9, 575votes. Contrary to your position that
the UDP put up a candidate against Halifa in the 2007 National Assembly
elections to humble him while it left Sidia Jatta’s seat uncontested
since he was a humble PDOIS leader, Halifa did not stand as a
Presidential Candidate in 1996. It is Sidia Jatta who stood as a
candidate against the UDP. And in the 1997 National Assembly elections,
the UDP also put up a prominent NCP supporter in Wuli against Sidia
Jatta. Alhamdu Conteh who stood as The UDP candidate had 1,098, Mamadi
Karlo Jabai of the APRC had 4, 641 and Sidia Jatta of PDOIS had 5, 499.
Sidia won despite UDP"s attempt to contest the seat.
In the 2002 National Assembly elections, the UDP boycotted the
elections and called on all its members to stay away from the polls. In
Serre Kunda Central, Halifa had 5, 563 votes as a PDOIS Candidate while
the APRC candidate had 5, 143 votes. Halifa won.
In the 2005 by election in Serre Kunda Central, Halifa had 5, 911 votes
as a candidate of the alliance while the APRC had 3, 984 votes. Ther
alliance added only 348 votes to the 2002 votes Halifa had as a PDOIS
candidate. As a NADD candidate Halifa had 4, 302 in the 2007 National
Assembly elections, UDP had 1, 548. and the APRC had 6, 386.
It should be clear that Sidia and Halifa both won their seats as PDOIS
candidates irrespective of the UDP. UDP made a big mistake in
contesting the Serrekunda central seat. It did not spoil anything for
Halifa. It spoilt its own name. Many young people started to describe
it as a party that pours the sand in the porridge if it is not invited
to share in the eating. UDP UK is also doing more harm to the UDP. I
will take up this issue later.
Suntu you concluded that: "The UDP U.K knows very well, Halifa's
students will come trying to defend the indefensible. They will again
continue to twist the facts and try to blame others for Halifa's
inability to convince Gambian voters. What the UDP propose which is
respectfully talked by sincere Gambians, Halifa don't want to pay
attention to that. What he want is to talk directly to Gambians, the
civil society, the NGO's etc and then create a cadre of people who will
later chose him as their saviour."
This is your allegation. This is your fear. You do fear that Halifa
could convince the Gambian voters. Your objective therefore is to
prevent this through premeditated character assassination. You claim
that I am trying to distort facts. What facts are we trying to distort?
If Halifa cannot convince the Gambian people then why is he your
headache. Halifa is not Darboes problem and Darboe is not Halifa’s
problem. The problem of the Gambian people should be our problem .Allow
me to quote what Halifa said recently.
"Interestingly enough, in 2001 the APRC candidate had 242, 302 votes
when it forged no alliance with the NCP. At that time there were 501,
304 registered voters. Suffice it to say, even though the number of
voters increased by 169, 032, by 2006 the votes of the APRC could only
increase by 22,102 votes. The UDP candidate had 149,448 votes in 2001.
Even though it developed alliance with NRP, which had 35,671 votes in
2001, its votes went down 104,808 votes in the 2006 elections, despite
the increase in the number of registered voters by 169, 032 voters."
"Foroyaa: What is your advise?"
"It is therefore necessary for political leaders to go back to the
drawing board and map out a new way forward. How is the opposition to
attract the 542,055 voters who did not vote for them is the subject at
hand. This is what Agenda 2011 is all about. Even though I am not
excluding acceptance of candidature, I have already declared that the
best option is to select a neutral candidate who will be able to run a
non partisan transitional cabinet for a period of 2 to 5 years and then
step aside after a genuine multi party contest. It is left to Gambians
to decide whether they have a better way forward."
Please ask Darboe to state his proposal for a way forward so that we
know what the UDP want for the Nation. That is better than endless
bickering by the spokesperson of the party in the UK .
--- On Wed, 2/10/10, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 4:12 PM
Bailo, good to know your ears are wide open. I thought you understood
the famous English saying "one man's meat is another man's poison".
What you believe to be crap from Suntou is a gem to some and vice verse.
I have always been a fan of politics Bailo, however it doesn't dominate
my life. I reveal here last year that, i was reading and consulting
with some Gambian opposition parties. trying to know certain aspects of
their politics and also to maintain how i can relate to them.
It was after this period, i decided the best option out there is the
United Democratic Party. Hence my joining their ranks.
I appreciate your boldness in stating on several occasion that a party
led coalition is the solution. Not every PDOIS member wish to accept
this fact, but in life we have to accept and politely disagree.
The situation for us all are very similar. Our central concern is to
see that a government comes to power that will respect the rule of law
and adheres to good governance. And also a government that will abide
by term limits and allow for diaspora Gambians to come home anytime and
stand for election without any restriction like it it is now.
UDP/NRP all agrees with this principles and also PDOIS. Therefore the
deliberate error some people are throwing about saying that, Ousainou
will not abide by term limits is the biggest nonsense.
Ousainou is selected by the UDP at there annual party congress to lead
the party, yet Jeggan is complaining that Ousainou didn't hand over to
someone. Who is the new expert to lecture the UDP on how to select a
party leader?
Let Halifa hand over the leadership of PDOIS to Sam Sarr before he too
passes the required age. After all, the American system seems to be if
you cannot get the presidency, you pass it on. Let Sam step up. Jeggan
can lecture his PDOIS members but not us.
The annoying thing in all this exchanges is that, those who cry baby
when we reacted are all in hibernation, this world.
No wonder truth is relative. Bee kaa foo ila bori leya, tiw tiw ( each
person shout for your runner). Things are moving, albeit slowly. But
progress is been made. Ajarama, and Ibalen jam. Ya Allah dandu meen
foof kata e katato. Ameen.
Suntou
On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:56 PM, bailo jallow
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou,
I heard you loud and clear. But we gotta move on and not get stuck to
the past.
As for the NIA, they are everywhere in the Gambia. Recently a young man
was pulled out of a public bus at Denton bridge and merciless beaten to
a vegetative state by our so-called security forces. His crime? The bus
in which he was travelling was like all vehicles on the road at the
time ordered off the road because the Presidential motorcade was
expected along it. The wait was apparently long and this young man made
the mistake of telling someone he was was speaking with on his mobile
that they were waiting for the for the convoy of our stupid president
to pass. An NIA informant overheard his indiscretion and decided to
teach him a lesson. When the bus reached Denton Bridge; the informant
ordered the driver of the bus to halt the bus, the young chap was
pulled out and his alleged crime reported to the security forces. Their
immediate reaction was to beat him to a vegetative state for his
indiscretionary words against the President.
It is therefore ordinary private citizens who are paying a higher price
under the status quo than public personalities like Ousainou, Halifa,
OJ, Seedia and the rest, the immense sacrifice of the latter category
nothwithstanding.
Honestly, I am not a strong moslem as you. Evidence suggests that are
not a taleban otherwise the only technology you would approved of is
the killing machines. I guess you own a tv and even a computer. As such
If you were a taleban, your fellow talebans would have been seeking to
publicly flog for your deviation. So you cannot be a taleban! Though I
must confess that sometimes I tend to mis-consider you as one very
angry ayatollah who considers so-called PDOIS fanatics like myself as
supporters of the great Satan. I sincerely hope that is not so.
Remember, you cautioned us sometimes ago that politicians are not to be
trusted. Your transformation into one within this short space of time
is amazing. Who and what is primary motivation? I suppose Halifa is not
the one.
Anyway, keep up the good work for your party and the Gambia in general
and please leave the crap out. I concur that you reserve the right
to.........................
Best wishes
Bailo
--- On Sun, 7/2/10, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, 7 February, 2010, 12:10
Bailo, your spin was well intention albeit your inability to accept the
facts of your Messiah's calamity. He cannot hide neither run away from
his mistakes. We are all willing to move on and try to talk as
brothers. But what we cannot leave alone the continuous blame game
Halifa attributed to others leaving his own saintly person out.
Politics is not a career for saints Bailo, the sooner Halifa recognises
that the better. And the gang mentality his supporters manifest is a
turn of for even his supporters, ganging up against those who speak
about his politics will only cause Halifa less cloud.
I also notice that, some of his guys start calling me Taliban,
extremist and what have you. If they are willing to stoop so low in
their misunderstanding of politics, my body feel for them.
Bailo, you are strong a muslims brother who actively partake in islamic
actvist, those that make you a Taliban? I know some of your Islamic
commitments, but I also accept that, as Muslims, we should be
interested in politics, science, literature, acceptable art,
philosophy, just anything we can enhance our minds with.
But alas, the gossip that Suntou is intolerant pumped up by the PDOIS
boys has reached me a long time. Some of this liers are even in cahoot
with the Foroyaa establishment providing them with equipment and the
like.
My Islam allows me the privilege to be an enterprising citizen wherever
I live. I am a Muslim by choice and will practise Islam to the best of
my ability and will put across the little I know God-Willing. I respect
the laws of the land i reside in. But If my comments on Halifa incense
some to the extent that, they are willing to vilify and attribute
nonsensical tags to me, then I am vindicated.
Let us see how things pan out, we standby our findings and whenever it
becomes necessary, we shall respond to all false analogies on UDP. For
those who wish to be taken seriously including you Bailo, distant
yourself from errors, no matter who commits them, only then people will
accept your subsequent cries.
Modou's abysmal response require no countering from us. he place
Halifa in even more serious doubts hence putting across Halifa's line.
He is the brave soldier and others not. The facts speaks different.
Ousainou's office is man regularly by NIA agents, doing all they can to
deter him from actively politics. His clients harassed, his associated
harassed, yet the foroyaa guys go about their business selling papers
and earning yet claiming to be sacrificing more than others. It make me
laugh mate.
Suntou
On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at 2:01 PM, bailo jallow
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Comrade Modou,
Your clarification efforts are highly appreciated. Let us now move on
and chart a new course towards helping bring about unity within the
opposition movement. In our unity is our strength. However, I strongly
believe that the general opposition movement would again fail to
realise our common goal of achieving a new Gambia for all if we
continue to rely on already tried and tested counterproductive
strategies of destructive criticism aimed at promoting one's candidate
while vigorously attempting to tarnish that of another's. Some may
argue that come on, this is merely politics at play. I personally
consider such tactics as a smear campaign. Anyone on the frontline of
our national politics conscientiously opposing the retrogessive
policies and actions of the unjust APRC regime deserve nothing but
support and encouragement from everyone craving and campaigning for
positive changes in the Gambia. Ousainou Darboe, Halifa Sallah, Femi
Peters, Seedia Jatta, Mai Fatty and many others like them therefore
only deserve our genuine respect and good advice. I had concluded long
time ago that under the current poliitcal dispensation in in our
beloved country the easiest and most convenient resort for any person
seeking only their own personal interest would be to join the APRC
Party.
Our primary objective should be towards ensuring that the leaderships
of the UDP-led Alliance and the remnants of NADD coalition would both
sooner rather later pursue a strategy of meaningful co-operation with
one another towards achieving an over-due united front against the
incompetent and callous APRC regime. That way, the doubters would have
been confounded and hope lost by the silent majority of Gambians would
be restored.
Let confidence building measures between all sides of the opposition be
pursued in earnest from now on as time is precious sliding away.
Please try to help get your dear uncle bailed out after being found
guilty and sentenced yesterday for making a wrongful attribution to our
dear colleague, Halifa. Coincidentally, the amount payable which is
any, should be envoyed to him in jail for the benefit of good Gambian
causes he has been diligently campaigning for.
Finally I wish to commend organisations such as the STGDP and GDP who
have been focussing on just that. Let us not be daunted nor depair;
ultimate victory is assured for the cause of any struggle for justice,
freedom and respect for human dignity.
Let us turn a new constructive page. Let all good works go on. Amen!
Bailo
--- On Sat, 6/2/10, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, 6 February, 2010, 3:50
Bailo,
Uncle Haruna understands Halifa very well. This is why he prefers to
rely on the issue of credibility and not the election statistics which
Halifa relied on to draw his conclusion. My uncle is among those who
say that politics is about numbers. In fact the other camp rely on this
so much that they refer to some parties as fringe parties. They know
what Halifa is talking about but like the proverbial ostrich they
prefer to bury their head in the sand.
You see, some of these people do not care whether there is change or
not. What they are interested in is the change they want. If they
cannot get it they prefer to join Jammeh. They should not fool the rest
of us. Where is Waa who used to criticize Halifa. He accepted the post
of a governor while Halifa rejected the post of a Minister. This is the
difference between him and his critics. He wants genuine change for the
long suffering Gambian people.
Halifa has made it quite clear that the lowest common multiple in
politics is numbers and concluded that the numbers which rejected both
opposition and ruling party are so overwhelming that none could be
considered credible if that is the yardstick of measuring credibility.
He therefore concluded that those who want change should go back to the
drawing board. He offered a proposal and called on others with better
proposals to offer their own. Where is the bickering? All honest
Gambians have seen the light and cannot be deceived any more. They know
who is power hungry and those who want to empower the people.
Nyang
--- On Fri, 2/5/10, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 6:41 AM
Please note that perspective does not always represent reality is what
I intended to express in my previous contribution.
Bailo
--- On Fri, 5/2/10, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, 5 February, 2010, 11:22
Please note that perspective does not always represent reality is I
intended to express in my previous contribution.
Bailo
--- On Fri, 5/2/10, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, 5 February, 2010, 11:12
Haruna tendered "So here Evian you will notice that my notes were in
response to your notes and I encourage you to read your notes where you
re-presented what Halifa said."
This is how I represented Halifa's statement: "You seem to be in denial
but that is sadly the truth. The APRC is far from credible and from the
perspective of the potential electorate, neither exists a more credible
alternative. Otherwise, the opposition would have won last time."
Please note that perspective does always represent reality.
The truth isI did not misrepresent Halifa; you did. Instead of
acknowledging your error, you are trying to shift it elsewhere. That's
absolute dishonesty!
Bailo
--- On Fri, 5/2/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, 5 February, 2010, 0:55
What i will do Evian is to leave my comments close to yours and
Halifa's in order that the proximity may yield further comprehension
where cacophany meddles.
[-----Original Message----- From: bailo jallow
[log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2010 12:20 pm Subject: Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA
SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
Sheikh Haruna, The following is exactly what Comrade Halifa was
reported to have stated (emphasis mine):
“Some supporters of the APRC said that the opposition parties in the
Gambia are not credible. They should also add that the ruling party is
not credible. Their assessment of Gambian politics as it stands would
then be correct and balanced."
And this is how you interpreted it:
"As to which party official speaks for the other parties, Halifa shared
with us that there is no credible opposition or ruling party. What he
should have said was that his party PDOIS was not credible. Then he
would have been speaking for himself because he is more intimately
aware of PDOIS' credibility. i think he was echoing Waa's assertions
that there is no credible opposition. The problem is instead of
focusing on his party's credibility, he attempted to match Waa's
cluelessness. In so doing he admitted Waa may be right."
So here Evian you will notice that my notes were in response to your
notes and I encourage you to read your notes where you re-presented
what Halifa said. Then come back here and read the entire quote as it
appeared in the Foroyaa note, undoctored by you. What you will conclude
is that even given your sophomoric representation, my comment (Not
interpretation) here does capture the cluelessness of PDOISards
fantastically. You see the APRC supporters are smart people compared to
Halifa. They are not interested in selling the demerits of the ruling
party because that is who they support. Now Halifa advising them to
ALSO say that there is no CREDIBLE RULING PARTY, in addition to There
is no CREDIBLE OPPOSITION PARTY, and that they will have been both
CORRECT and BALANCED is where he put his foot in his mouth. Implicitly,
Halifa agrees with their supposition that there is no CREDIBLE
opposition party as CORRECT. Because there is more than PDOIS in the
opposition parties, Halifa is thereby speaking for other parties. That
is the reason I shared the advice about when in court and accused of
theft, your defense ought not be that not only are you a thief in
agreement with your accuser, your accuser is also a thief. The grander
picture Bailo is when you consider you are an independent voter. And
you hear Halifa utter such. How does it make you feel about him and his
incredulous party PDOIS. Forget NADD at this time for there is really
nothing in NADD besides PDOIS. Please let me know if this is still not
clear to you.
[So now let us focus on separating the chaff from the grain: Halifa
reported that "some supporters of the APRC said that the opposition
parties in the Gambia are not credible." This is factual. It is APRC
supporters like Waa Juwara as you conceded who are claiming the above;
it is not Halifa as you wrongly asserted. Halifa is merely a messenger
who conveyed the message. What Halifa opined in response is "They
should also add that the ruling party is not credible. Their assessment
of Gambian politics as it stands would then be correct and balanced."]
Evian.
Inutile.
[I hope you would therefore accordingly revise your interpretation of
Halifa's statement to reflect the reality of what he expressed.] Evian.
I was not interpreting anything. I was translating. And there is no
further revision necessary.
[You aso wrote:
"I would encourage you to read Halifa's quotation again because I think
you misunderstood it. Not that it makes any significant difference
whether you understood it or not. It just throws your analysis of that
part off quilter a bit. That is the bit about "Not excluding acceptance
of candidature". There Halifa is speaking of himself and not the
candidature of other. Share with us your renewed understanding."] Evian
regurgitating what Haruna shared.
[As you encouraged, I referred again to the relevant statement of
Halifa as follows (emphasis mine):
"Even though I am not excluding acceptance of candidature, I have
already declared that the best option is to select a neutral candidate
who will be able to run a non partisan transitional cabinet for a
period of 2 to 5 years and then step aside after a genuine multiparty
contest. It is left to Gambians to decide whether they have a better
way forward."] Evian repeating.
[My understanding of the statement remains the same even though I admit
that Halifa did not qualify whose candidature he meant.] Evian.
Halifa did not need to qualify whose candidature he spoke of. The
English is sound and very good. If it were you or Mams I would have
asked for further clarification.
[He did not indicated either "my" or "any" to give us precision of
reference to candidature.] Evian.
Bailo, the MY is implicit. That happens all the time in conversations
in English. Just for fun, let us replace MY with ANY just before
candidature. That would not have been the best sentence structure but
it still tells you Halifa is speaking of himself. This is because MY is
the ownership litmus but ANY goes to the quality of the candidature and
not domain. Hey Allah, I hope you understand me. So let's extend the
semantic game further; Let us say Halifa meant Ousainou, OJ, Hamat, or
Waa's candidature, and insert any of these names just before
candidature. Now you will agree with me that Halifa does not have the
purview of accepting other's candidature. Do you agree? If you don't
just ask yourself where is the authority for Halifa to ACCEPT a
dog-catcher's candidature????? He can ascend to their candidatures when
they accept accept it themselves and the way he does that is by voting
his desire or ascension. These are some of the games Shaky Shaky plays
with English in order to improve himself. Please let me know if you
need further ideas on these and others.
[In essence, he might have been referring to his own candidature or
someone else's.] Evian.
Unless he is retarded, he could not have been referring to any other's
candidature.
[It is for him to help clarify.] Evian.
I don't need Halifa to clarify and I am certain most of our coleagues
don't need any further clarification of the statement. Let us save
Halifa the mental gymnastics where he could try to manufacture
extraneous meaning. That will be a bigger problem for the man.
[Whatever he meant, I know that either interpretations are possible.]
Evian.
You do the tests and convince yourself either way. It is easy. You can
do it Bailo.
[In conclusion, I think you have mistakenly fallen for that proverbial
saying of comparing apples and oranges in the following statement of
yours: "Halifa endorsing Ousainou's candidature will be equal to you or
me endorsing Ousainou's candidature or Halifa's candidature at this
point in time. There is not much basis for that."] Evian repeating what
Haruna shared.
[In order words, you have over-rated yourself and me at to be at par
with Halifa;] Evian.
No. I am not at par with Halifa. Just ask him. We are of different
mettle and polarly opposite ambition.
[the latter is a political known and both you and me are virtual
political unknowns.] Evian.
Well. Do you want to be a political known Bailo????? I can make your
arse famous in a jiffy. You might not like what you become famous for
though. Political known. I have not heard such cacamayme since Moussa
Camara shared Mbaranbirinbiring with me in 1982 in Kuntaur.
[Therein lies the difference between us Halifa's endorsement of any
candidature.] Evian.
I see.
[Cheers] Evian.
Cheers to you too. And don't try to be cute with your Grand Pa again.
If you know what is good for you, you'll turn in your PDOIS armband.
I still love you though.
Haruna.
--- On Thu, 4/2/10, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 0:41
Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR, NO CREDIBLE
RULING PARTY NO CREDIBLE OPPOSITION A NEW WAY FORWARD NEEDED
After the completion of the APRC tour, Foroyaa approached Halifa Sallah
for comments.This is what he said:
“Political leaders should tell their supporters the truth. A political
vacuum exists in the Gambia. Some supporters of the APRC said that the
opposition parties in the Gambia are not credible. They should also add
that the ruling party is not credible. Their assessment of Gambian
politics as it stands would then be correct and balanced. Some leaders
who do not want to be honest to their supporters are trying to give the
impression that the statistics I have been putting out are over
statements. They are not telling their supporters the truth. Political
leaders should tell the truth. For only the truth shall set us free. I
have relied on empirical evidence to conclude that at this very moment
we do not have a credible ruling party or opposition party. We have a
duty to create both. Those who are offended by this statement are not
prepared to do what is necessary to save Gambian politics from being an
exercise in mediocrity.
After the presidential elections in 2006, I wrote a pamphlet in which I
quoted the statistics to confirm my assertion. Gambians have to be
reminded these statistics to awaken each from our political apathy.
According to the IEC, 670, 336 voters were registered prior to the 2006
presidential elections. When the results were delivered the IEC
indicated that the APRC candidate who was also supported by the NCP had
264,404 votes. If this is subtracted from the total number of
registered voters it would mean that 405,932 voters did not vote for
the APRC candidate. The UDP candidate who was also supported by NRP and
GPDP had 104,808 votes, while the NADD candidate had 23,473 votes. The
total votes of the opposition amounted to 128,281 votes. If this is
subtracted from the total number of registered voters it would be
apparent that 542,055 voters did not vote for the opposition. Wherein
lies the credibility of the ruling party and the opposition party if
politics is reduced to its lowest common denominator as contest based
on the number of votes.
Interestingly enough, in 2001 the APRC candidate had 242,302 votes when
it forged no alliance with the NCP. At that time there were 501,304
registered voters. Suffice it to say, even though the number of voters
increased by 169032, by 2006 the votes of the APRC could only increase
by 22,102 votes. The UDP candidate had 149,448 votes in 2001. Even
though it developed alliance with NRP, which had 35,671 votes in 2001,
its votes went down 104,808 votes in the 2006 elections, despite the
increase in the number of registered voters by 169032 voters.
Foroyaa: What is your advise?
It is therefore necessary for political leaders to go back to the
drawing board and map out a new way forward. How is the opposition to
attract the 542,055 voters who did not vote for them is the subject at
hand. This is what Agenda 2011 is all about. Even though I am not
excluding acceptance of candidature, I have already declared that the
best option is to select a neutral candidate who will be able to run a
non partisan transitional cabinet for a period of 2 to 5 years and then
step aside after a genuine multiparty contest. It is left to Gambians
to decide whether they have a better way forward.
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