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     Joe, I can see that it pays off too. I hope the use of proverbs, 
and the very meaningful relevance it has in the construct of our social 
ethos, will gain as much currrency as our societies evolve and become 
more complex.

     I also applaud your aptitude with language, and your efforts to 
master some of our our local languages. Keep it up.

    Rene

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 3:59 pm
Subject: Re: Abusive Messages

Rene, I spent a good chunk of my teen years in the heart of Olof kunda, 
around grandmas and grandpas that were replete with commonsense and a 
healthy dose of Kolarey ak Wah Dega. Interestingly, I am that fluent in 
Jola, but spent less time around it in my early years.  I understand 
Jola well and can construct sentences for a perfect response, but have 
to do it very slowly, because I have to coordinate my and tongue and 
mind, consciously.  However, all I need is a solid one year emerson and 
I will be good to go. :-)!  Language is very interesting to me, and I 
am also working on my Mandingo, that is if Suntou will let me be. :-)!

Joe

&gt; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:32:19 -0400
&gt; From: [log in to unmask]
&gt; Subject: Re: Abusive Messages
&gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt;
&gt; Joe, I have to say that I am thrilled with your knowledge and use 
of
&gt; wollof proverbs.
&gt;
&gt; Rene
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; -----Original Message-----
&gt; From: Joe Sambou &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt; Sent: Mon, Jun 14, 2010 1:05 pm
&gt; Subject: Re: Abusive Messages
&gt;
&gt; Mboge, Kuamut Rongonge Danga Tela Joye, and so, I have started 
crying a
&gt; long time ago for my ducts are dried up.  One thing I will not
&gt; participate in is, analysis of how we handed Yaya another gift. 
 At
&gt; some point in life, one must accept the reality and direct one's 
energy
&gt; to other struggles in life.  Wishing much success to victory in 
2011.
&gt;  Just very sick at the moment.
&gt;
&gt; Joe  
&gt;
&gt; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:39:23 +0200
&gt; From: [log in to unmask]
&gt; Subject: Re: Abusive Messages
&gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt;
&gt; Joe,
&gt;  
&gt; Deja Vous indeed.  Some of the so-called neutral observers never 
cease
&gt; to surprise. 
&gt;  
&gt; Best,
&gt;  
&gt; Mboge
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Joe Sambou 
&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;
&gt; wrote:
&gt; Ginny, so, I would claw for Halifa and not for Ousainou?  Suntou 
and
&gt; many others have said plenty about Halifa which is their right, 
can you
&gt; tell me where I died for Halifa?  I have this sick feeling that it 
will
&gt; be Deja Vous again, come 2011.  Anyway, please do not waste your 
time
&gt; on Joe, for you will realize that I am not the show.  November 
2011 is
&gt; not that far and I think you have a lot to put together.  Ginny, I 
also
&gt; believe Ousainou knows more about Joe than Ginny.  Suntou knows 
Gambian
&gt; culture and he understands very clearly what I said and that is 
what is
&gt; important.  You can give meaning to your interpretations of my 
motives
&gt; and the waters are wide enough for all kinds of vessels.  Wade 
sis,
&gt; Wade. 
&gt;
&gt; Joe
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 11:09:23 -0400
&gt; &gt; From: [log in to unmask]
&gt; &gt; Subject: Re: Abusive Messages
&gt; &gt; To: [log in to unmask]
&gt; &gt;
&gt;
&gt;
&gt; &gt; Well, it seems that Suntou may have started the insulting of
&gt; families,
&gt; &gt; etc., but Muhammad started the whole discussion by posting a
&gt; message he
&gt; &gt; knew was going to start an argument then got upset at the 
result,
&gt; even
&gt; &gt; though he was purposefully trying to be provocative. It's just
&gt; &gt; unfortunate that Suntou fell for the bait and took it.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; What should have happened when Muhammad posted his "critique" 
of
&gt; Darboe
&gt; &gt; was that it should have just been ignored, because he's not 
saying
&gt; &gt; anything that probably hasn't been said a thousand times 
before.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; And I agree with Joe that politicians should be criticized, 
etc.,
&gt; but
&gt; &gt; let's wait and see if Joe is so quick to wax on about the 
right of
&gt; &gt; people to criticize politicians when it's someone else 
besides
&gt; Darboe.
&gt; &gt; Because I can tell you that if anyone says anything about, 
hmmm,
&gt; Halifa
&gt; &gt; Sallah, let's say, watch the claws come out then.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I think that all politicians, if they want to be in politics, 
need
&gt; to
&gt; &gt; be ready for criticism and critique, and no politicians is 
better
&gt; or
&gt; &gt; worse than the other. However, if we can't get past this
&gt; &gt; saviour/prophet mentality that many seem to have toward their
&gt; &gt; politican/party of choice, then a united opposition is going 
to
&gt; end up
&gt; &gt; being a mere dream.
&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Ginny
&gt; &gt;
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