Mr Bira Go, if you were really committed in restoring
true democracy in Africa and Gambia particularly as
you claimed to be and really interested in knowing
what happened in Tennessee, you should have ask me
Saihou where you at the meeting when this Alledged
bribery issue was raised?. But no, wanting to tarnish
my image and that of the UDP/NRP Alliance would not
allow you to wait.
Bira Go, where ever an individual credibility is
threaten, he or she is bound do what ever it takes to
restore it. You threaten my credibility and that of
the UDP/NRP leadership for ill motives with a high
degree of awareness of falsity that's why i started
considering for libel suit because you wrote " here is
a challenge of credibility both for NADD, the UDP/NRP
Alliance and Saihou Mballow". What did you expect me
to do?
We all agreed on an opposition unity in this struggle
is important and necessary but now some people have
lost the initial credibility of the struggle and
started degenerating into a permanent charade.
Yes, i told Ginny not to open the opposition old
wounds for the seek of unity. Ginny being an American
who converted to Islam and know little about Gambians
does not know what it would cause when she bring back
certain issues and one can understand that through
her writings. She go by what ever she read on the G-l
or Gambia post. She is not to be blame for not knowing
the insults and division this would bring.
Finally, i have never attempted to avoid your
political questions and i will never do so as long as
they are set reasonably fair, open and not bias. And
don't translate my credibility defense to insults or
dishonesty.
Saihou
--- bira go <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
---------------------------------
[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
"bira go" ]
"Mr Saihou Mballow has with this statement coroborated
Ginny Quick's accusations of bribery during the NADD
selection of a flag-bearer. Or was it that Ginny got
the information from these same people who were using
her to spread lies about NADD. In any which way, the
scheme has been exposed and the UDP/NRP leadership and
Saihou mballow are bound to explain to the Gambian
people as to he credibility of this story."
Mr Mballow,
I am not one of those people who would trade insults
and confused statements with you which you then use to
shy away from your own fabrications.
You claim to have threaten me with a libel suit and I
then withdraw. PLEASE Saihou, if not to me, Try to be
honest to yourself.
You wanted to raise a non-issue (regarding your having
been at a meeting or not) inorder to escape from the
central political question regarding the information
above and I told you that, this was not my personal
intrest but rather, those ones that could move the
struggle forward.
"One thing i can tell you is, Dulo was delegated by
Hamat Bah-NRP to nominate Lawyer Darboe and end up
nominating OJ and later when Hamat himself came, Dulo
withdrew his nomination according to the NRP
executive" (saihou's statement)
This is the point that needs to be clarified by you
and the NRP executive which you have mentioned.
And the second one is Ginny's statement claiming that
Dulo Bah was bribed resulting in his voting for OJ.
Your stopping Ginny from exposing her source of
information and the fact that you have claimed that it
is the NRP executive are the ones who discussed the
Dulo voting problem, then you should be in the
position to clear the air for all of us.
I am used to the people who resort to personal attacks
when they are in a corner but I am not one of the
petty ones, so don't waist your time with that tactic.
It is becoming a big disgrace that some Gambians who
want to be proclaimed as leaders would always resort
to pettiness when they cannot defend their political
errors. There is no need to cal you a liar because you
are not worth it for me. Have you ever read a posting
coming from me to the Gambia -L? I am not even a
subscriber.
All my postings on the Gambiapost and Allgambian are
public property and could be consulted by all inorder
to point out any misinformation and debate them with
me.
I shall not insult you or go so low as to start
fabricating lies about your person but you are welcome
if that is your offer to the Gambian people who are
yearning for for a mature leadership.
PLEASE furnish us with the answers to the prevailing
political questions. If you happen to be incompetent
to do so, try reaching out to the NRP executive you
mentioned for assistance.
Don't you forget that you are a public property just
like Yahya Jammeh and shall as long as you are, you
shall be questioned about your actions and words.
If you want to be part of a Gambian leadership for
possitive change then you have to obtain political
training from your leaders or as the supporters of
NADD to help you. Try also to be honest and love all
Gambians, whether they share your views or not, these
are some of the basic elements of political activism.
Wat seesa.
---------------------------------
From: "Yusupha Jow" <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
CC: "Gambia List" <[log in to unmask]>,
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Subject: Re: [>-<] Dulo Bah bribery alligations
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 16:16:30 -0700
Great idea, Saikou Ba. Me thinks the debate would be
very enlightening and highly entertaining.
In fact, the debate should be filmed and posted on the
Post. What say you, brother George? ;-)
Walahi!
Thanks!
Yusupha
On 5/19/06, saihou Mballow <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
saihou Mballow <
[log in to unmask]> ]
Gambians and friends of the Gambia are here by
informed that Mr Bira Go who claimed to be a Gambian
and fighting for democracy in African yesterday posted
a malicious and irresponsible statement on the Gambia
post Net in an attempt to tarnish my image and that of
the UDP/NRP political Alliance which i support by
stating that i was at a meeting in Tennessee with one
Ginny whom i have neither met nor seen. After
considering to file a LIBEL LAW SUIT on the individual
who gave out that wrong information, i demanded from
Bira Go to supply me with the name of the person after
which he withdrew and apologized.
His comments were made with actual malice and reckless
with disregard for the truth.
This is a person who claim to be committed in the
struggle for African democracy, this is a person who
is supporting a Gambian political party (NADD), this
is a person who is daily writing on the Gambia -L and
Gambia post misleading us even about the APRC
possibly. How can someone trust such a person who can
hear any market talk and come to the Internet and
mislead the Gambian community and the world at large.
Gambian news papers should watch out other wise, this
man will lead them to a big Libel law suit.
Now Bira Go went writing "Saihou Mballow corroborated
Ginny Quick's accusation of bribery during the NADD
selection of a flag bearer". Is this man with his
senses, what i wrote was very, very clear and he
cannot twist them or put something in my mouth.
Below i here by reproduce what i said.
I said " we all know what
happened.Dulo Bah was
instructed by Hamat Bah-NRP to nominate Ousainou
Darboe and end up nominating OJ". from there someone
can come to the conclusion that something was wrong
somewhere. These are my words and i stand by them.
Finally, i here by challenge Bira Go for a live debate
on the issue of the "Gambia opposition reconciliation
process" hence, he claimed to stand for African
democracy. The venue can be either New York,
Washington or somewhere. We will present our official
identity cards to the coordinators preferably. I very
much doubt if i can find an authentic Gambian Name
"Bira Go".
It will be appreciated if the
Allgambianet.Net
management can coordinate it. I will sent my telephone
numbers and address as soon as tomorrow.
Saihou Mballow VS Bira Go.
I thing this will help rather than hiding before a
computer and claiming all type of dubious names.
Saihou Mballow
--- bira go <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
---------------------------------
[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
"bira go" ]
Dulo Bah bribery alligations
Mr Saihou Mballow has with this statement coroborated
Ginny Quick's accusations of bribery during the NADD
selection of a flag-bearer. Or was it that Ginny got
the information from these same people who were using
her to spread lies about NADD. In any which way, the
scheme has been exposed and the UDP/NRP leadership and
Saihou mballow are bound to explain to the Gambian
people as to he credibility of this story.
Mr Mballow claimed that Dulo Bah was instructed by
Hamat Bah, who was at the time in Dakar, "One thing i
can tell you is, Dulo was delegated by Hamat Bah-NRP
to nominate Lawyer Darboe and end up nominating OJ "
(was this through the same dictatorship charges
against Hamat Bah?) My question.
According to the story from Ginny: but Dulo Bah was
bribed by someone to vote for Omar Jallow.
"and later when Hamat himself came, Dulo withdrew his
nomination according to the NRP executive."
Ginny Quick said to us that, she cannot support a
party that is engaged in bribery (meaning NADD for
her) although she has no evidence to coroborate her
assumptions.
Neither did she question her source or herself as to
why Dulo Bah is still an executive member of the NRP
and thus one of the leaders of the UDP/NRP Alliance
she supports creating the impression that they are the
clean group while forgetting that the said culprit, if
she does believe in what she was told is part of that
Alliance.
Saihou has asked Ginny not to open old wounds of NADD
prior to the withdrawal of the UDP and NRP parties.
One would now ask if Saihou is doing this to cover a
blatant fabrication by the UDP/NRP or by Saihou or any
other individual who may have fabricated this
proposterous lie inorder to damage the credibility of
NADD?
I hope this is not a UDP/NRP attitude.
Here is a challenge of credibility both for NADD, the
UDP/NRP Aliance and Saihou Mballow.
The Gambian people deserve to know the truth in al
circumstances.
---------------------------------
From: saihou Mballow <
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Reply-To:
[log in to unmask]
To:
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Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: The Kombo East by-elections
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 16:54:19 -0700 (PDT)
>[ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by
saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]
> ]
>
>
>Chris, i appealed to Ginny not to open old wounds on
>the NADD selection process which she respected
>therefore, i cannot turn around and discuss anything
>about what happened.
>
>One thing i can tell you is, Dulo was delegated by
>Hamat Bah-NRP to nominate Lawyer Darboe and end up
>nominating OJ and later when Hamat himself came, Dulo
>withdrew his nomination according to the NRP
>executive.
>
>So looking at the drama, one would come to the
>conclusion that something was wrong at the process.
>
>Saihou
>
>
>
>--- Christine Marie Sukuna <
[log in to unmask]
>
>wrote:
>
> > Saihou,
> >
> > You know this is by far the politest attempt to
> > hand someone a muzzle that I have ever read here.
I
> > don't think any of the questions asked were
> > irrelevant in the least. Why, in your small
> > senario, the part where Dula was bribed is, well,
> > kiddo it is missing. How come you didn't include
it
> > if, as you say, "everyone knows what happened"???
> > That's kind of an important part-you know bribes
and
> > fraudulent acts-. Was he bribed or better yet,
what
> > is the possibilty that this was a rigged show on
the
> > part of the UDP/NRP to give them a "reason" to
> > leave? See lots of stories can be made up here,
but,
> > when we ask for facts we are trying to get rid of
> > all this fiction in regard to what went down at
the
> > table that led to the breakup.
> >
> > You would think as a supporter that you would
want
> > folks to know truly what happened and not mow over
> > it as if it's not an important part of mending
> > things between the opposition.
> >
> > Chris...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > saihou Mballow <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post
e-Gathering
> > by saihou Mballow ]
> >
> >
> > Ginny, your message is very clear and it is good
> > that
> > you are standing by your words. Lets no amount of
> > "Bala bala"....distract your position in
supporting
> > the UDP/NRP Alliance which is the strongest
> > opposition
> > Alliance in the country today.
> >
> > Please, i am appealing to you, do not answer any
> > irrelevant question that would open the opposition
> > old
> > wounds. The selection process has passed and we
all
> > know what happened. We want to look for better
ways
> > to
> > come up with good ideas and i have no doubt that
you
> > have some how to build a stronger force against
the
> > APRC in the coming weeks.
> >
> > I am saying irrelevant questions simply because if
> > you
> > want to waste your time on how Dulo Bah who was a
> > delegate for Hamat Bah-NRP end up nominating OJ
> > while
> > he was sent to nominate Darboe according to the
NRP
> > executive, one would come to the conclusion that
> > something was wrong at the selection process.
> >
> > Ginny,let's move on.
> >
> > Saihou
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Ginny Quick wrote:
> >
> > > Hello, all the following thoughts have just been
> > > posted at my blog at http://quickgm28.blogs.com
,
> > > regarding yesterday's Kombo East by-elections.
> > >
> > > I hope my thoughts were clear, however comments
> > and
> > > questions are always welcome if there were not.
> > >
> > > Ginny
> > >
> > > Assalamu alaikum / greetings, well, the results
> > > of the Kombo East by-election are in, and the
APRC
> > > has retained their seat. Needless to say, I am
> > > very disappointed, since the general concensus
> > > seemed to be that the opposition would win.
> > > However, if you look at the numbers, the
> > > opposition did, indeed, get a majority of the
> > votes.
> > > However, those votes were split between the NADD
> > > candidate
> > > and the UDP/NRP candidate. So what does this
say?
> > > To my mind, the only * sure * way of beating
> > > Yahya Jammeh come October 2006, is to have a
> > united
> > > opposition. However, it seems that getting the
> > > opposition
> > > to come back to the table is going to be
difficult
> > > at best, especially when at least one of the
NADD
> > > members, namely Lamin Wa Juwara, seems to want
to
> > > make this campaign more about his personal
dislike
> > > for Ousainou Darboe than about any real issues
> > with
> > > the APRC. Just this past Friday, there was an
> > > article
> > > in the Point newspaper, where Lamin Wa Juwara
> > > alleges that the reason why the UDP could not
> > > contest the last Parliamentary elections was
> > because
> > > Ousainou
> > > Darboe used party funds to pay a tax bill. If
this
> > > is the case, what evidence does Wa Juwara have
to
> > > back this up? Also, wasn't Lamin Wa Juwara still
> > > a member of UDP at this time? If so, did he
bring
> > > this up at the time, and if not why? And why
bring
> > > this up now, when it's not even Darboe himself
> > > running
> > > for office?
> > > OK, I'm digressing here, but this is just one
> > > example of why it will be extremely hard for the
> > > opposition to unite before October. And
basically,
> > > what I'm reading in this article is not that Wa
> > > Juwara wants UDP to come back to the table, but
he
> > > wants the * supporters * to come back to the
> > table.
> > > So, does he really want a united opposition? If
he
> > > does, he wants a Darboeless united opposition,
and
> > > as it seems that many still support Darboe, this
> > > does not seem to be likely.
> > > There was a small gathering of Gambians in
> > > Nashville yesterday, which I was fortunate
enough
> > to
> > > attend, and I made the statement there that the
> > only
> > > sure way for the opposition to win in October
> > would
> > > be for them to unite. I also stated that all of
> > the
> > > past problems with NADD, which eventually led
> > > to them breaking up, had to be put aside in the
> > > interest of the country and the Gambian people.
I
> > > mean, I have stated here, in previous posts,
that
> > it
> > > seemed to me that NADD, pre-Darboe resignation,
> > > could not put their egoes aside long enough to
> > even
> > > select a flag-bearer, and I still stand by that
> > > statement,
> > > and as I see things now, I'm not sure that the
> > > opposition members, whether from NADD or UDP,
> > would
> > > be able to put their differences aside to unite,
> > > form
> > > a coalition, and oust Jammeh in 2006.
> > > And you know, this makes me sad. Just as
> > > Ousainou Darboe may need to be told to put his
> > > "power-hungry political aspirations aside and
come
> > > back to
> > > NADD, as some have suggested, then Wa Juwara
needs
> > > to stop using the NADD platform as a means of
> > > castigating and maligning Darboe, as well. He
can
> > > have
> > > his problems with Darboe all he wants, but for
the
> > > sake of the Gambian people, he really needs to
> > stop.
> > > But no one seems to be saying this. It's all
> > > about "power-hungry, tribalistic, Darboe".
> > > In all of this fingerpointing and levelling of
> > > accusations, the real goal of getting rid of
> > Jammeh
> > > come October has been lost site of. The
> > struggling,
> > > defenseless Gambian masses have been forgotten,
it
> > > seems, by both NADD and UDP/NRP alike. And
that's
> > > what makes me sad. That is what gives me such a
> > > despondent, frustrated feeling today.
> > > I also want to address some other points
> > > related to the gathering yesterday, as well as
> > > putting some other thoughts out there. First of
> > > all, I want
> > > to thank everyone at the gathering for making me
> > > feel welcome, and allowing me to come and
> > > participate, even if I spent most of my time
just
> > > listening
> > > and observing. Everyone was very nice, and I
> > > jokingly had the thought that this would have
been
> > a
> > > wonderful group of people to spend the Eid with
*
> > > smiling
> > > *.
> > > But anyway, at one point during the day, I
> > > began speaking to a guy called Musa (sorry Musa
> > > don't know your last name), who, just after
> > > introducing
> > > himself, said to me, "Oh, I know you're a UDP
> > > supporter, I can tell by your postings".
Firstly,
> > I
> > > want to make it clear, so no one gets it
twisted,
> > I
> > > want a united opposition, because that is an
> > almost
> > > sure way (because nothing is ever certain, it
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
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