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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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I agree Kukeh, I like my mankamang kunda milk too. The steroids are so that  
more babies can have milk. There are Wisconsin dairies which produce organic  
milk too you know. I'm sure if bureh could afford antibiotics and hormones 
you'd  be walking with a bobbing head right about now. (dodolinant la  tete). 
Don't get all excited about sareh Mankamang kunda just yet. Gambia's  population 
has doubled already. Where'll all these new Gambians get  mankamang kunda milk 
from???? Not to forrrrget (PBUH), some of these new  Gambians are in 
Wisconsin. Don't get me started already. We don't wanna give  Bureh any funny ideas. 
Enjoy your steroid-free milk quietly. Please. I wonder if  the author has ever 
been to mankamang kunda???
 
Haruna. You're too funny when you wanna be.
 
In a message dated 6/13/2008 2:02:36 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
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Darbo  Jula,
Thanks for making my Friday after a long, hot week. My question is  why 
do I want to know the milk comes from a steroid-laiden cow from  
Wisconsin or a one from Sare Mankamang Kunda (100% hormone free), if  
according to the author  ".. it turns out that it has nothing to do  with 
the milk being organic". Pardon moi, for the rant, I just like my  milk 
sour and steroid-free.

Malanding



Haruna Darbo  wrote:
>  
> Mr. Jaiteh,
>  
> It is kinda  confusing. The way I understand it is that both organic and  
>  regular milk comes from cows. Organic milk comes from cows which have NOT  
been  
> treated with antibiotics to fight infections or cows which  have NOT been  
> injected with hormones to boost their milk  production. As far as the milk 
they  
> produce, Organic milk lasts  longer than regular milk (where cows have been 
 
> treated with  antibiotics and fed hormones to boost milk production) 
because of  the  
> UHT process which kills all bacteria and the milk does not need   
> refrigeration. 
>  
> It appears regular milk  undergoes pasteurization at low and high  
> temperatures. Regular  milk from high temp pasteurization lasts longer than 
 regular milk  
> from low temp pasteurization. In summary, regular milk from UHT   lasts as 
long 
> as Organic milk, and both last longer than regular milk  from Low  temp 
> pasteurization. The organic only goes to the  non-use of antibiotics in  
disease 
> management and non-use of  hormones in milk volume enhancement. So  organic 
costs 
> more  because it is 'purer' and less quantity is produced per cow.  The 
title  of 
> the article therefore should have been "why some milk last  longer  than 
> others" or "Organic Vs. Regular  milk".
>  
> To your question, the article is therefore about  "Organic Vs. Regular 
milk"  
> AND "UHT Vs. Pateurization".  Both.
>  
> Haruna.
>  
> In a message dated  6/13/2008 8:53:00 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,  
>  [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Hmmm. Is  this  article  about  "organic" vs hormone-induced milk or UHT   
> vs  pasteurization preservation methods?
>
>  Malanding
>
>
> Haruna  Darbo  wrote:
>   
>>  
>> If you’ve ever  shopped for milk, you’ve no  doubt noticed what our 
>>   
> questioner 
>   
>>  has:  While regular milk  expires within about a week or sooner, organic  
>>     
> milk  
>    
>> lasts much  longer—as long as a  month.
>>
>> So what is it about organic  milk   that makes it stay fresh so long?
>>
>> Actually, it   turns out that it has  nothing to do with the milk being  
>>  organic. All "organic" means is that the farm  the  milk comes from does  
>>     
> not use  
>   
>> antibiotics to fight infections in cows or  _hormones  to  stimulate more 
>>      
> milk 
>   
>> production_ 
>>   
>>     
>  
(http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=milk-industry-gag-order-on-artificial-hormones-lifted)   .
>   
>> Organic milk lasts longer because   producers use a  different process to 
>> preserve it. According  to the Northeast   Organic Dairy Producers 
Alliance,  
>>     
> the milk 
>    
>> needs to stay fresh longer  because  organic products  often have to 
travel 
>> farther to reach  store shelves since  it is  not produced throughout the  
>>      
> country.
>   
>> The process that gives the  milk a  longer shelf  life is called ultrahigh 
>>  temperature (UHT) processing or  treatment,  in which milk is heated  to 
280 
>>     
> degrees 
>    
>> Fahrenheit  (138 degrees Celsius) for two  to four  seconds, killing any 
>>  _bacteria_  (http://www.sciam.com/topic.cfm?id=bacteria)  in it.    
>>
>> Compare that to pasteurization, the standard  preservation  process. There 
 
>>      
> are 
>   
>> two types of pasteurization:  "low  temperature, long time," in which milk 
>>   
> is  
>   
>> heated to 145  degrees  F (63 degrees C) for at least 30 minutes*, or the  
>>     
> more  
>    
>> common  "high temperature, short time," in which milk is  heated to 
roughly 
>>     
> 160    
>   
>> degrees F (71 degrees C) for at least 15  seconds. 
>>
>>  The different  temperatures hint  at why UHT-treated milk lasts longer:  
>> Pasteurization  doesn’t  kill all bacteria in the milk, just  enough so 
that  
>>     
> you don't 
>    
>> get a disease with  your milk mustache.  UHT, on the  other hand, kills 
>> everything. 
>>
>>   Retailers  typically give pasteurized milk an expiration date of four  
to  
>>     
> six 
>    
>> days. Ahead of  that, however, was up to six days of   processing and 
>>     
> shipping,  
>   
>> so total shelf  life after   pasteurization is probably up to two weeks. 
>>      
> Milk 
>   
>> that undergoes  UHT   doesn’t need to be refrigerated and can sit on the 
>>   
> shelf for  
>   
>> up to  six  months.
>>
>> Regular milk can undergo UHT,   too. The process is used for the  
>> room-temperature Parmalat  milk  found outside the refrigerator case and 
for 
>>   
> most  milk sold 
>   
>>  in  Europe. 
>>
>> So why isn’t all milk produced  using   UHT?
>>
>> One reason is that UHT-treated  milk tastes different. UHT  sweetens  the 
>> flavor of  milk by burning some of its sugars  (caramelization). A lot of  
 
>>     
> Americans 
>    
>> find this offensive—just  as they are leery of buying  nonrefrigerated  
>>     
> milk.  
>   
>> Europeans,  however, don’t seem to  mind. 
>>
>> UHT also destroys some of   the  milk’s vitamin content—not a significant 
>> amount—and affects  some  proteins,  making it _unusable  for cheese_  
>>   (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=dairy-farming-old-and-new)   .
>>
>> There are, of course, lots of reasons people  buy  organic  milk. But if 
>>     
>  it's 
>   
>> the long shelf life you're after,  I  would recommend you buy  nonorganic 
>>   
> UHT 
>   
>> milk and avoid  being  charged   double.
>>
>>
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