Folks,

Please, please, for God's sake let's move on. Like I said before, my
identity is not and should not be the issue. I have been on record several
times challenging the opposition to provide their agenda for the development
of the country and so far they have failed to do that. Those of you who are
honest enough and can muster the courage to risk being bulldozed by some of
your overzealous comrades will admit that despite all the support you wish
and are willing to give to the opposition parties, they are still to
convince you all as to what they will do, when given the mandate of the
people to lead us. Mr. Saihou Mballow briefly appeared to be the UDP cyber
spokesman but has so far said very little about UDP's comprehensive
governance programme for the country. Or did I miss it?

The UDP, as well as the NRP, have woefully failed to give the electorate any
comprehensive reason as to why we should support them except. As far as I am
concerned the only vivid recollection of what the UDP stands for is their
manifestation of their abhorance of the lack of rule of law on the part of
the APRC. This, I am saying, is simply not enough to sway me or the likes of
me. On the NRP, I have stated that except for the clown who nearly defected
to the APRC a few weeks ago, I only know Hamat Bah as part of their
executive committee. I have also stated that I don't know their agenda for
the country. On the PDOIS, I have stated on numerous occasions that I really
admire them for their focusness and dedication to the development of the
country. However I have also stated categorically that I will not vote for a
PDOIS candidate as president as long as they still want to maintain their
socialist policies. This is fundamental to me.

Even though I have a lot of respect for Sedia Jatta personally, I am yet to
convince myself that voting for him is not vote wasted. My reason is very
simple. By saying that the D7,000.00 he was being paid as a national assemby
member is too much and deciding to put D4,500.00 of his hard earned money in
a trust fund for the benifit of his constituents, though a noble act, is
contrary to my believes. This is because as a democratically elected
president, he can turn around and tell us, the civil servants, not to expect
any salary beyond, say D4,000.00 as he has demonstrated that D2,500.00 per
month is sufficient to live on. Don't I have the right to expect some decent
wages for my skills and contribution to this nation or do I just pack up and
go abroad for a better wage and other benifits? How many of you will be
honest enough to say that your incomes, opportunities, comforts and security
have nothing or very little to do with your staying abroad? How many of you
will risk quiting your jobs or studies to come back and study or live in the
Gambia permanently when Yahya is voted out of office and the president of
your choice is elected? Please lets get real and be honest in our discourse.
I am willing to put up my last dime that most of you will not risk your jobs
to come back home permanently no matter who is president. I will also put to
you, I mean those who are honest enough, that some of you have not been to
the country for quite some time now. For God's sake, lets be honest with
each oether. I have lived abroad like some of you and to tell you the truth,
I prefer the Gambia of today gives me more hope than ever before. Don' ask
me why. It may just be hunch.

As for my identity, what's the big deal whether I am Christopher, Andrew or
Jabel? In all honesty, I have done my utmost to explain how I feel about the
prospects of the country under Jammeh without any inducement or
expectations. I have sought explanations from all and sundry as to why I
should switch allegiance to any other party and none has been able to give
me any good reasons. And please don't tell me about April 10 & 11 or
arbitrary arrests or detentions.

My advise to you people is to please get your priorities right. Go ahead
with your fund raising, educate the people about what is wrong in our
society and how these could be solved. Try to put pressure on the opposition
parties, particularly the UDP and NRP to give us an idea of how they will be
any better than Yahya Jammeh's APRC party when voted into power. Is that too
much to ask? These two parties have been in existence for nearly 5 years and
none of us, you included, have any clue as to what their agenda is. How many
of you will honestly tell me that you are very happy or very conversant with
the manifestos of any of these opposition parties? Atleast we know what to
expect from another 5 years of APRC rule, but what about 5 years of NRP,
PDOIS or UDP rule? I await your responses.

Have a good day and bye 4Now, KB Jobe.

PS: Makaveli, please do the honest thing and appologise to Thomas Forster
and quit this nonsense of trying to find out who I am. I have my own
reasons, just like some of you, to be anonymous. What's wrong with that?
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Will The Real 'Kebba Jobe' Please Stand Up.
>Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:08:51 +0100
>
>Mr George Sarr
>
>It's time that you throw the towel and make a public
>apology to Thomas Hamilton Forster. I honestly think
>he deserves an apology based on the failed research
>you have conducted. Tom or Alade as we normally call
>him is a very calm and collected person, the only
>"connection" he has with Yahya Jammeh is that there
>were batchmates at GHS. But this does not make him an
>associate of Jammeh/APRC, since we have seen how
>Jammeh has treated his Former batchmate/ boss, Major
>Ebrima Ismaila Chongan, the Former Deputy Inspector
>General of Police.
>
>George
>
>To be candid with you, I have always had respect for
>you and I am praying that I do not lose that respect
>due to this flawed investigation. In life everyone
>makes a mistake and the time has now come for you to
>accept your mistake and make your unreserved apology
>to a person who genuinely deserves it.
>
>Have a wonderful day
>
>Sanusi Owens
>
>
>
>--- basil jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi
>Basil,
 >
 > News has reached me that George Sarr has made a
 > terrible accusation against me.  I am not on
 > Gambia-L
 > and I read it on the Web.  Can you please post this
 > message on my behalf.  I don't know what is becoming
 > of Gambia-L but I am disturbed and I hate that my
 > good
 > name is being tarnished in this fashion.
 >
 > Tom
 >
 > Mr Sarre,
 >
 > It has come to my knowledge that you have made an
 > accusation against me that is VERY VERY SERIOUS and
 > I
 > would like you to go on the public forum and Make an
 > apology. I was on Gambia-L until a few weeks ago
 > when
 > I unsubscribed.  I have worked as a cellular
 > engineer
 > for GAmtel and then moved onto the TV.  I started
 > work
 > in cellular in 1992 when it was introduced and
 > continued working for cellular on my return from
 > studies.  I have since 1997 been in New Zealand
 > where
 > I have been studying towards a PhD here.  I am not
 > being sponsored by anybody in Gambia and really
 > cannot
 > comprehend how you can put two and two together and
 > make four.  You are way off the mark.  I am really
 > dissappointed that you didn't even take time to find
 > out what is happening to make your enquiries before
 > leaping on the bandwagon with your accusations.
 > When
 > will people like you stop tarnishing the names of
 > innocent people?  I am indeed disappointed at your
 > behaviour and I believe a public apology is
 > warranted.
 >
 >
 > You can contact anybody on the list who knows me
 > quite
 > well to know my whereabouts.  You have got that
 > information that you posted on a web page and I
 > believe that as a responsible person you must at
 > least
 > do some research before making accusations.  I am
 > not
 > at all impressed.  I am not in the Gambia and don't
 > really know what is happening with regard to GSM.
 > Secondly I didn't finish school in 1978, people who
 > make accusations must substantiate their
 > accusations.
 >
 > Since I am not on the list, I will send this message
 > to Katim to forward to the list on my behalf as I
 > know
 > that someone like you would not have the decency to
 > apologise publicly.  There are many people on the
 > list
 > who know me and who would vouch that I have no need
 > to
 > resort to the use of pseudonyms to put my point
 > across.  You are out to tarnish my image and I am
 > hurt
 > and angry.
 >
 > I look forward to your apology.
 >
 > Tom Forster
 >
 >
 >
 > >From: Mr Makaveli <[log in to unmask]>
 > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
 > list
 > ><[log in to unmask]>
 > >To: [log in to unmask]
 > >Subject: Will The Real 'Kebba Jobe' Please Stand
 > Up.
 > >Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 11:23:31 -0500
 > >
 > >TO TELL THE TRUTH: Will The Real 'Kebba Jobe'
 > Please Stand up.
 >
 >--------------------------------------------------------------
 > >My name is Thomas Hamilton Forster and I am from
 > the The Gambia
 > >
 > >Here is the
 > Equation:Gambian=Engineer=Canterbury=Thomas
 > Forster=Kebba Jobe?
 > >
 > >Lots of coincidence if you ask me. Read
 > on..<<Excerpt>>
 > >
 > >"I proceeded to Christchurch, New Zealand in 1993
 > to study for a masters
 > >degree in engineering and was fortunate to be part
 > of the first Master of
 > >Engineering Management class in the University of
 > Canterbury.  I graduated
 > >in 1994 with a degree of Master of Engineering now
 > referred to as the MEM
 > >degree.  My MEM project was the development of a
 > Business plan for the
 > >introduction of the Transflux Fluid Heater in the
 > food processing industry
 > >in New Zealand.
 > >
 > >I returned to the Gambia in 1994 and continued
 > working as a Cellular
 > >engineer.  In 1995, Gamtel was assigned the
 > broadcasting responisbilities
 > >of government and I helped set up the new
 > television studios and
 > >transmitter stations.  I became Manager of TV
 > Operations a post I held
 > >until I left to do a PhD in the Department of
 > Management at the University
 > >of Canterbury in Christchurch.  For more details
 > about my research, see my
 > >research page. "
 > >
 > >Note that he returned to the Gambia in 1994 when
 > Jammeh took over..
 > >Coincidence? maybe.. " I returned to the Gambia in
 > 1994 and continued
 > >working as a Cellular engineer." Is it a
 > coincidence that Kebba Jobe is so
 > >savvy with GSM crap.. Kebba Jobe told us he is in
 > his mid 40s..Sounds about
 > >right to me if this Thomas Foster/Nying Jobe
 > finished high school in 1978..
 > >I personally don't give a hoot who this Kebba Jobe
 > is but being the Spin-
 > >Doctor that he is, I simply couldn't afford to miss
 > the opportunity for
 > >him to spin this one..
 > >
 > >On : Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:12:51 -0000 KEBBA JOBE
 > Wrote:
 > >
 > >"I am a senior civil servant in my mid 40's who was
 > born and bred in the
 > >Niani District of the CRD, attended Armitage
 > school, studied Mathematics
 > >and engineering at the universities of
 > Canterbury(kent), Plymouth (Devon)
 > >and the National university of Singapore (NUS. I am
 > also a grauate of the
 > >Thunderbird, American graduate school of
 > international management in
 > >Glendale, Arizona. I am married with 4 children.
 > The first time I ever
 > >voted was in England when I once voted for Dr.
 > David Owen, now Lord Owen
 > >when I lived in Devonport. In Gambia the only time
 > I ever bothered to vote
 > >was in the referendum, presidential and national
 > assembly elections.
 > >Happy Tamharit, KB Jobe."
 > >
 > >Assuming half of what he wrote above is true, my
 > hunch is that we are not
 > >far off the mark in unveiling this dubious
 > character. If anything this
 > >Foster guy can lead us to him, that is if he ain't
 > the real Mccoy.. The
 > >both have somethings in common viz :
 > Gambian;Engineer; Canterbury; Gamtel
 > >
 > >Here is the link I found on Canterbury's server
 > under people listed:Click
 > >on Thomas Foster
 > >
 > >http://www.mang.canterbury.ac.nz/people/
 > >
 >
 >http://www.mang.canterbury.ac.nz/people/thomas/Myself.htm
 >  (full address)
 > >
 > >PS: Who is this Solomon Jawara? Dude, I got all the
 > Viruses you've tried to
 > >send me and I hate to inform you that it really
 > shows how inept some of you
 > >APRC sycophants are. Join the long list of
 > adversaries.. The News was great
 > >but the Virus concomitantly is a terrible
 > guile/unwarranted solicitation
 > >Bye 4 now
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >Gambians Online " Designed With The Gambian People
 > In Mind"
 > >                http://www.gambiansonline.com
 > >
 >
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