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Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 8 Jun 2006 22:44:31 -0400
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Mr. Nderry,
A reminder that Gambia-L's role is  best served by remaining impartial 
in the eyes of Gambian. Given that Mr. Jallow is not around to respond 
your claims, I would ask you to exercise some restraint in your postings.

Malanidng



PA NDERRY wrote:

>We welcome the suspension of Ebou Jallow's membership. Its is a positive step in the right direction. This shameless dude should have long been suspended from the Gambia L. He is anti freedom and his unsolicited mails dispatched to this forum had no doubt put many innocent Gambians into trouble. Hacker Ebou Jallow and his accomplices will live to regret their action. The Freedom Newspaper, is not taking this case lightly. Whoever, is implicated in this conspiracy will face the full brunt of the law. The Gambia L management should be commended for distancing themselves from Ebou's vicious moves to implicate Gambians. He got to be stopped before he put the Gambia into flames. Many people are suffering from the hands of the hands of the "chickas" because of Ebou.  His recent atrocities against our innocent subscribers will continue to hunt him. The Freedom Newspaper is not a party to his cowardly and Ungodly act and will take the necessary actions to remedy the situation. The
> G Post should also should follow suit. The move taken by the Gambia L is not censorship at all. It is geared for the common good. The interest of  the Gambian people  overrides the interest of  "novice and retarded" person like Jallow. When freedom is threatened, we should resort to such positive move. Once again, we thank the G L management for suspending the enemy. 
>
>Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:   Thank you Malanding and Laye. I am glad that this criminal behavior is 
>addressed. As you all know, I was a victim at the Gambia Post, when George 
>illegally accessed a private correspondence I had with malik (from the 
>e-mail address he provided Malik) just because I was a thorn in his flesh. 
>Most of the readership turned the other way and some were even happy that it 
>happened to Joe. The good thing was that what I said in that mail was no 
>secret for I said it to him in public. My thoughts at the time was, if I 
>was hiding my ID and made comments regarding the butcher, this fellow would 
>not have hesitated to offer me for a lynching. Thus, we should never be too 
>tired to address criminal behavior against any, by any, for it is also an 
>assault on our collective.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
>  
>
>>From: Radio Free Gambia 
>>Reply-To: [log in to unmask]
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Attn: List Managers
>>Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 09:19:25 -0500
>>
>>Thanks for the prompt action. I hope the list management comes to a
>>conclusion that will help maintain and enhance the sense of privacy and
>>security on this list.
>>
>>-BambaLaye
>>
>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 11:21 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
>>    
>>
>>>BambaLaye,
>>>I understand concern that the right to scream fire must stop outside the
>>>theater hall. The rest of the management must be offline now but given
>>>the urgent need to protect the innocence, I have decided to temporarily
>>>suspend Mr Jallow's right to post until management have time to discuss
>>>the matter. Have a good night.
>>>
>>>Malanding
>>>
>>>
>>>Radio Free Gambia wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Thanks Malanding for your prompt response:
>>>>
>>>>"Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
>>>>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification."
>>>>
>>>>I seek to prompt for similar management initiative be taken to protect 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>Pa
>>    
>>
>>>>Nderry Mbai's privacy pending (1)either Ebou Jallow proving beyond
>>>>reasonable doubt that he is not compromising Mbai's email account or
>>>>(2)Mbai confirming to all that Ebou has legitimate and explicit 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>authority
>>    
>>
>>>>to forward his(Mbai's) messages to the list.
>>>>
>>>>Messages are being forwarded from the same suspect(and
>>>>protected)account(s)through Ebou Jallow's email account(s)as we speak.
>>>>Does management have to wait for the Pa Nderry to complaint to protect
>>>>his
>>>>privacy?
>>>>
>>>>There appears to be two different thresholds set for management action 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>on
>>    
>>
>>>>the same issue. This needs to be revisited for the sake of the integrity
>>>>of this respected list.
>>>>
>>>>Sis Jabu, thanks for your added perspective. I'm about to scratch my 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>head
>>    
>>
>>>>too. Have a great night.
>>>>
>>>>-BambaLaye
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 10:07 pm, Malanding Jaiteh said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Sister Jabou and BambaLaye,
>>>>>While I agree that Mr Jallow's forward of what seem to be personal mail
>>>>>sent to Pa Nderry should concern us, I still believe that it would be
>>>>>unprecedented for management to delist Ebou Jallow without evidence
>>>>>tying him to any wrong doing or violating Pa Nderry's privacy. As far 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>as
>>    
>>
>>>>>I can tell Pa Nderry is yet to report his address being spoofed to G-l
>>>>>management or Ebou Jallow is forwarding his private mails without
>>>>>conscent.
>>>>>Perhaps I may add that it was the management's own initiative and not
>>>>>Pa's request to suspend the suspect account pending verification.
>>>>>Unfortunately I am yet to hear from any of the managers that Pa
>>>>>contacted them about the suspended account.
>>>>>
>>>>>While Pa may have been too busy sorting things out I would imagine it
>>>>>not very hard hard to send personal messages to management (some of 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>whom
>>    
>>
>>>>>he had direct access) about his situation. Although it would be fair to
>>>>>state that he did through Mr Mballow asked to be resubscribed today, I
>>>>>hope he would in the future be unambiguous about the status of Ebou's
>>>>>postings, but until the G-l management cannot act.
>>>>>
>>>>>Malanding
>>>>>
>>>>>[log in to unmask] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Laye,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had also arrived at the same conclusions that it made sense to
>>>>>>de-list
>>>>>>Ebou Jallow because with Pa Nderry's declaration that his site was
>>>>>>illegally
>>>>>>hacked and his private communications illegally acquired by the
>>>>>>hackers
>>>>>>( and
>>>>>>we all saw that evidence which the management said was the reason 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>they
>>    
>>
>>>>>>decided
>>>>>>to de-list his email address for the time being) and Ebou Jallow's
>>>>>>posting
>>>>>>of emails he clearly labels as intercepted private communication to 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>Pa
>>    
>>
>>>>>>Nderry
>>>>>>was what led me to also suggest that Ebou Jallow should be de-listed
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>Malanding offered an explanation that still has me scratching my 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>head.
>>    
>>
>>>>>>Jabou Joh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In a message dated 6/7/2006 8:42:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>>>[log in to unmask] writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>List Managers:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am suggesting that - under the circumstances of Pa Nderry Mbai's
>>>>>>claim
>>>>>>of his email account being tampered with lately - Ebou Jallow
>>>>>>([log in to unmask] and [log in to unmask]) be asked to 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>demonstrate
>>    
>>
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>the list that he has explicit permission from Pa Nderry Mbai to
>>>>>>forward
>>>>>>Mr. Mbai's private messages to the list. Barring any satisfactory
>>>>>>demonstration (the standard should be obvious to all)by Mr. Jallow, 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>he
>>    
>>
>>>>>>should be immediately delisted in accordance with set rules of the
>>>>>>list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I believe it is under the circumstances of Mr. Mbai's claim of 
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>illegal
>>    
>>
>>>>>>compromise that his (Mr. Mbai's) email account was delisted - because
>>>>>>he
>>>>>>purported to not have control of his email account. It defies logic
>>>>>>(in
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>opinion) to see his private messages being forwarded to the list with
>>>>>>no
>>>>>>explicit raising of eyebrows by the list management. Not to my
>>>>>>knowledge
>>>>>>so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There has been precedent to such behavior on the list and the outcome
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>swift and clear to all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My apolgies if this issue is being dealt with under the shadows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-BambaLaye
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, June 7, 2006 6:42 pm, Ebou Jallow said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>*From*: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>*Sent*: Friday, May 19, 2006 5:54 AM
>>>>>>>*To*: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>*Subject*: Our Private Lives- Pa Nderry an observation please
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pa Nderry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I am a visitor to your site. Congrats for setting up the online news
>>>>>>>service. I enjoy alot going through it .However what is disturbing 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>to
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>that people's private lives are constantly dragged into what seems 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>to
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>no links with issues that are relevant to national development. My
>>>>>>>first
>>>>>>>example is mentioning who had a child with Tamsir Jassey and the
>>>>>>>second
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>the said report on Ambassador Crispin Johnson. I don't know him but 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>I
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>it is unfair to disclose his personal life who he is living with, or
>>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>sleeps with, excuse my bluntness. It sounds so ridiculous to me. It
>>>>>>>makes
>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>wonder do we have some online saints? Really not. Talking about
>>>>>>>corruption,
>>>>>>>politics and everything affecting us as a nation is right, but 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>trying
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>smear others just for the sake of it is something else. Whoever your
>>>>>>>source
>>>>>>>is on alledged sexual harassmnet meted out to her by any one should
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>guts to speak out, without hiding. Keeping silent entrenches the
>>>>>>>problem.
>>>>>>>If
>>>>>>>it is true, I know it is not only the said ambassador who is guilty
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>sexual harassment in the Gambia, not only in government, it is every
>>>>>>>where
>>>>>>>in our schools, in the private offices, in our houses, in the media.
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>am
>>>>>>>presently working on a book to be published in some months ahead and
>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>the themes explored is sexual harassment in The Gambia.. I am not
>>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>defend the ambassador becuase I am a government officer but I am
>>>>>>>writing
>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>independent opinion and certainly as a journalist as well. I know 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>his
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>name
>>>>>>>casually like the name of any other person of high portfolio in
>>>>>>>government.
>>>>>>>Thats all but I feel it is not right to denigrate him on no grounds,
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>it is a matter of personal choice whether he lives with his family or
>>>>>>>alone.
>>>>>>>In fact most of us are living away from our families outside the
>>>>>>>country.
>>>>>>>If
>>>>>>>he is corrupt or kind of issues that concern us as a nation, why 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>not,
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>belch
>>>>>>>it out, sure we all need to know, but otherwise, things like who
>>>>>>>drinks
>>>>>>>beer
>>>>>>>or has a girl friend in the corner is not substantiate enough to use
>>>>>>>valuable time on our newspapers that have such a lofty mission. We
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>more
>>>>>>>pressing issues to discuss. I saw no link either with mentioning that
>>>>>>>Katy
>>>>>>>Joh had a daughter with Tamsir to national issues.I dont know her 
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>but
>>    
>>
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>feel
>>>>>>>it is equally ridiculous to say that.
>>>>>>>Most times i feel it so hard to figure out whether I am reading
>>>>>>>reports
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>some personal opinions on freedom newspaper on line. A newspaper
>>>>>>>report
>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>not a page of fiction neither a chapter on a creative novel nor a
>>>>>>>summary
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>a boigraphical tale.
>>>>>>>Therefore Mr. Mbai, I am saying keep up the good work and congrats
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>establishing the newspaper online. But focus on better issues, we
>>>>>>>have
>>>>>>>loads
>>>>>>>of bags of relevant issues on national developemnt to unload.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mariama Khan
>>>>>>>Postgraduate student
>>>>>>>Turin, italy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>autho- Futa Toro
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Coauthor -Juffureh Kissing you with hurting lips
>>>>>>>and Proverbs of The Senegambia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Mariama Khan
>>>>>>>
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