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Matarr Amadou Sallah <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 7 Mar 2006 00:09:32 +0100
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Mr. Daffeh
You wrote


In the  same way, NADD should drop the idea of
>Staging
>up Halifa   Sallah as a candidate in the up coming
>presidential election. This man  has  being the face
>of
>PDOIS for decades and yet he never  achieved=20
>anything
>more than 3% for that party.  How on  earth can=20
>anybody
>even dream of choosing such a man as  President
>Jammeh=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s  challenger and expect Gambians to  take
>you


Your candidate Darbo have been contesting in several elections and yet have 
never been MP.
how then can you convince me that this guy can bring down Jammeh.
The only party that can bring down Jammeh is NADD with Halifa, 
Mbarodi,Sidia,Kemeseng just to name a few.

Please tell me why Darbo/ amat are better candidates the the above mentioned

Matarr







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>Subject: Re: Ss. Daffeh
>Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 18:47:37 EST
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>=20
>Camara,
>=20
>First, I responded to "Daffeh" because I got tired of reading all of the 
>=20
>twisted propaganda he and those who share his views on this issue have 
>been=20=
>=20
>trying to feed us. I don't think you guys realize how much like the  APRC 
>yo=
>u are=20
>beginning to sound, trying to explain the unexplainable and  twisting=20
>information to suit your needs and you are doing exactly that  again here.
>=20
>I never said anything in my response about whether Darboe would have made 
>a=20=
>=20
>good candidate or not had he been selected, but the key word here is "had 
>he=
>  =20
>been selected"=20
>=20
>That is not the issue here, the issue is that he abandoned this  alliance 
>an=
>d=20
>now, those who are trying to unashamedly market this idea that  NADD 
>should=20
>now join those who have betrayed the ideals the alliance stood for  and 
>who=20
>then went on to try to force the hand of others by devious tactics are  
>the=20=
>ones=20
>right and reasonable.
>=20
>There was a very democratic process in place for the selection of the =20
>flagbearer and Darboe signed on to that agreement when the MOU was signed. 
>H=
>e  left=20
>NADD when he realized that the selection procedure may not result in him 
>=20
>being chosen as the flag bearer, so he left with Hamat Bah in tow to go  
>for=
>m his=20
>own coalition in which he is flag bearer and anyone who joins him has  
>to=20
>agree to that fact.=20
>So you don't like the democratic process, then bypass it and try to force 
>=20
>the hand of others to succumb to your wishes.
>Is that what we are aspiring to in The Gambia and what is the difference 
>=20
>between that thinking and that of Yaya Jammeh who has operated along the 
>sam=
>e =20
>lines for the past decade?
>=20
>It is Darboe who abandoned the coalition and set about creating the =20
>polarization you are trying to turn the tables and accuse others of doing. 
>H=
>e  did=20
>this by holding rallies and criticizing his colleagues openly.
>Is it important for an aspiring leader to keep his word and honor his =20
>agreements? Is it OK to bypass a democratic process if you think the 
>results=
>   will=20
>not favor you? Is that really what we are looking for in our future  
>leader?=
>=20
>=20
>Instead of trying to turn the tables and asking NADD to join the UDP/NRP 
>=20
>coalition that ran away from NADD when things would not go their way, you 
>an=
>d =20
>your associates need to expend your energies to persuade the UDP/NRP  
>coalit=
>ion=20
>to go back and honor the agreement they entered into.That is what  will=20
>restore the hopes and dreams of the people if they are at all important in 
>=20=
>this=20
>process.=20
>=20
>That will also convince the Gambian people that Darboe and Bah put the =20
>Gambia first instead of their own interests first and that they do  
>respect=20=
>and=20
>abide by the democratic process which we the public must insist any  
>aspirin=
>g=20
>leader to abide by. So it is also a question of integrity in  addition to 
>be=
>ing a=20
>question of putting the people first.
>=20
>I agree with you, a splintered coalition will not win against Yaya Jammeh 
>=20
>and the splintering was initiated by the UDP & NRP walking away and with 
>all=
>  =20
>the other defections going on all over the place, it looks like the 
>pursuit=20=
>of =20
>self interest by politicians will once again leave the Gambian people at 
>the=
>  =20
>mercy of Yaya Jammeh and the blame falls on the shoulders of those who=20
>initiated  the betrayal of trust and it looks like every body else is 
>follow=
>ing suit.
>=20
>It is time for some truth and honesty and it is not hard to find  in 
>this=20
>situation if that is what one is after.
>Jabou Joh
>=20
>=20
>In a message dated 3/3/2006 3:34:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, =20
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
>Jabou,
>I read your mail after reading that of Daffeh through
>Mr.  Mballow. I could not find any good reason(s) why
>Darboe would not have been  a great candidate had he
>been chosen as the flag-bearer for NADD.   Daffeh
>articulated very well why Darboe would be a better
>candidate than  Halipha.  I like Halipha 100% and I
>believe he would have been a great  candidate with all
>the opposition parties (I mean former NADD)behind  him.
>I also believe that Darboe would have been a superb
>candidate had  he been chosen as the NADD leader.
>
>Can we all direct our efforts  towards finding ways to
>make the opposition unite again instead of  further
>polarizing the situation?  I do not think either NADD
>under  Halipha (as it is now) or UDP/NRP under Darboe
>can dislodge the dictator. A  fragmented opposition has
>a very slim chance.  As long as Dartboe  agrees to be
>in power for only 5 years (and not to support any
>party  later), I see no reason why NADD should not join
>the UDP/NRP coalition and  revive a new NADD.=20
>
>thanks,
>Madi.   =20
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--- [log in to unmask]  wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 3/2/2006 6:50:40 P.M. Central
> >  Standard Time, SS=20
> > [log in to unmask]
> >  (mailto:[log in to unmask])   writes:
> >=20
> > In  fact  if the Brikama show down is anything to go
> > by,  Lawyer
> > Ousainu Darboe is  still a vote magnet. Mr
> >  Darboe=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s
> > electoral record is actually a good  foundation  for
> > the
> > opposition to build on. If the opposition is   really
> > serious about looking for a realistic option to
> >  dislodge APRC,  they need to recognise this and
> > rally
> >  behind the UDP/NRP Coalition in the  interest of
> > their
> >  ultimate common objective, which is to dislodge=20
> > APRC.
> > In the  same way, NADD should drop the idea of
> > Staging
> > up Halifa   Sallah as a candidate in the up coming
> > presidential election. This man  has  being the face
> > of
> > PDOIS for decades and yet he never  achieved=20
> > anything
> > more than 3% for that party.  How on  earth can=20
> > anybody
> > even dream of choosing such a man as  President
> > Jammeh=C3=A2=E2=82=AC=E2=84=A2s  challenger and expect Gambians to  take
> > you
> > seriously?=20
> > unquote
> >=20
> > Mr  Mballow,
> > =20
> > Since you are the man behind the mask of SS  Daffeh,
> > please relay the =20
> > following to him for me on  behalf of the Gambian
> > people.
> > The point is not who is more  sellable or who gained
> > what percentage of  votes=20
> > in the  past, but rather that as a strategy to enable
> > them to garner  enough =20
> > votes to win against the APRC, all opposition
> >  parties had agreed to come =20
> > together as one unit, NADD, and  through a democratic
> > process, choose  one candidate=20
> > to  represent this one unit, NADD to face Jammeh in
> > the next   elections.
> >  The various leaders of these opposition  parties
> > were to then explain  to=20
> > their various  supporters that this is a strategy
> > that would enable them to  =20
> > remove the APRC regime and to give us our country
>
> > back  and that after this was =20
> > accomplished, and followed by the  prescribed 5 year
> > term of an interim =20
> > government,   these parties who had come together=20
> > would then be able  to go  back to=20
> > their individual parties and can then be able to
> >  organize  themselves and contest=20
> > elections as individual  parties. The people would
> > have  understood this and=20
> >  indeed, all indications are that they already did.
> > =20
> > All  patriotic Gambians realize in their heart of
> > hearts that it is  high  time=20
> > to forge a mechanism to dislodge the Jammeh  regime
> > from power before they =20
> > murder all our people and  sink our country into an
> > irreversible economic =20
> >  disaster.Our people live the hardship on a daily
> > basis, regardless of  which  tribe=20
> > they are, the suffering under the APRC regime  knows
> > no ethnic  boundaries.=20
> > The idea is that if forging  this mechanism means
> > having to set aside  for the=20
> > time  being, all political, ideological or personal
> > differences for  the  sake=20
> > of our people and for the love of our dear  country,
> > then that is what would =20
> > be done by all those  who profess to believe in the
> > democratic process and the  =20
> > love of our people and country.
> > This was and is the hopes and  dreams of the Gambian
> > people who have taken =20
> > all they  can take from this brutal regime.=20
> > =20
> > What has transpired  is that some of those who had
> > subscribed to this =20
> >  magnificent ideal have decided that they did not
> > like what the results  of a =20
> > democratic process to select the representative or
> >  flag bearer may bring, that  this=20
> > process may not result in  things going the way they
> > want it, and so they =20
> > decided  to break their word and abandon an agreement
> > that they had made to  the =20
> > Gambian people in order to have their way. This
> >  makes them begin to resemble the =20
> > dictator they claim to be  trying to dislodge.This
> > scares us because if =20
> > anyone can  think in those terms at this critical
> > juncture in the history of  our =20
> > country, and to the extent of abandoning the  promise
> > of this alliance and  the=20
> > democratic process  that was in place to select the
> > flag bearer, then that =20
> >  sends a very negative message indeed that those
> > individuals do not and  will not =20
> > respect the same democratic process tomorrow  should
> > they ever be in power, and =20
> > that we will likely  find ourselves in the clutches
> > of another attempt to=20
> >  cling  to power at all cost. This is the message
> > that these  actions convey =20
> > unfortunately.
> > =20
> > So you  see, it is totally irrelevant to talk about
> > which party leader   is=20
> > more sellable because each party leader had
> > subscribed to  an ideal to pool  their=20
> > resources together, in this case, those  resources
> > being their support base =20
> > and to implore that  support base to vote for the
> > flag bearer selected through a =20
> >  democratic process by the coalition executive in
> > order  to accomplish a well =20
> > defined objective, to get a dictatorship  off the
> > backs of Gambians.=20
> > =20
> > Unfortunately, a  decision was made by some people
> > that their own  aspirations =20
> > were somehow superior to any effort to save our
> > country and  our  people at=20
> > their most urgent hour of need and history will  not
> > look kindly upon  them if=20
> > they persist in this  senseless selfish endeavour.
> > =20
> > These are the facts plain  and simple, and people
> > need to save us from  the=20
> > endless  rhetoric and spin which insists on making us
> > stupid when we are   nothing=20
> > but stupid.=20
> > =20
> > It is also time to stop  the accusations of tribalism
> > by those whose actions =20
> >  speak louder than words that they are the ones who
> > are the tribalists.  it is,=20
> > as  our African American brothers and sisters say,  a
> > case of the pot calling =20
> > the kettle black, or a cheap  strategy of trying to
> > beat your opponent to the =20
> > punch  by labeling them what you have manifested to
> > be.
> >  =20
> > Our country and our people are crying and dying from
> > the  untold brutality  of=20
> > this devious regime, and let those who  truely love
> > our country, and who say =20
> > they subscribe to  the democratic ideal keep their
> > word and come back to the  =20
> > promise they made so that we can move our country
> > forward.  Their actions  will=20
> > then be remembered by the people and they  will be
> > able to not only  hold their=20
> > heads high  tomorrow, but we will then know that they
> > can be  trusted as =20
> > people we the people can also trust to lead us=20
> >  tomorrow.
> > =20
> > For the love of God, this is an interim  government
> > we are talking  about, a=20
> > temporary solution  that will create the kind of
> > atmosphere all  political=20
> >  parties have been yearning for for forty years. Do
> > not those who   are so hell bent=20
> > on derailing this process trust their abilities  to
> > win an  election in a free=20
> > and fair atmosphere after  our constitution has been
> > restored  and coercion is=20
> > not  the order of the day anymore?=20
> > =20
> > Please also relay to "Mr  Daffeh" that his cloak and
> > dagger manner also  tells=20
> > us  that he and whatever he represents must not be
> > something he can  hold  his=20
> > head up high for if he has to hide behind  someone
> > else to deliver his warped =20
> > messages.
> >  And Mr Mballow, a word of advice if I may. If you
> > are as objective  as  you=20
> > profess to be, and if you are as sincere in
> >  supporting one  unified coalition as=20
> > your last posting implied,  then it baffles me as to=20
> > why you would agree to=20
> > be the bag  man for "Mr Daffeh" and his divisive=20
> > messages.
> > Jabou  Joh
> >=20
> >=20
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