Fellas c'mon!
I don't think there's anything wrong with the gentleman's comments.  What if
he only meant good and not bad?  Besides, we are never sure whose putting on
whose identity (or multiple identities) on this list, not even the list
manager.  We are lifting this forum to unattainable heights.  I believe that
"word of mouth" is infact more credible than this forum.  The reason being,
you never know whose posting garbage, and not knowledge.  Attacks of this
nature not only diminishes the goals, but generates a notorious new enlister
to the L.  I urge everyone to move on.

1!
Essa




>From: Dampha Kebba <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: CIVIL SERVANTS FORCED TO BUY APRC MEMBERSHIP CARDS/INDEPENDEN
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>Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 15:02:33 EDT
>
>Thank you very much, Saiks. In other words, this Baba Jobe should either
>put
>up or shut up. If he has information that can credibly contradict the
>article written on the Independent, he should let us know. If he is aware
>of
>falsehood being propagated on this forum by Yaya opponents, let him let us.
>Otherwise, he should save us from this condescending advise aimed at
>nothing
>but trying to peddle a favorable picture on behalf of the APRC and Yaya. We
>are all matured adults and we know how to treat information that we receive
>on the List. I do not know the Independent's policy vis-a-vis such types of
>attacks, but if I controlled the paper, I would at least ask Baba Jobe to
>back up his insinuation. The whole point of this innuendo is to convince us
>that the APRC is not engaged in dirty tricks to raise funds from the civil
>servants. Well, APRC supporters have the right to contradict the report on
>the Independent, but they have to come out with solid facts and not speak
>in
>riddles. Absent solid facts from this Baba Jobe, I suggest that we stick to
>what the Independent says and not take this Jobe character seriously. I
>want
>to let Mr. Jobe know that it is not only the majority of G_L subscribers
>that hate Yaya. The overwhelming majority of Gambians (both in the country
>and abroad) hate Yaya. We will continue to hate him so long as he continues
>to murder innocent Gambians and loot government coffers. Since it is not
>all
>Yaya's fault, maybe Mr. Jobe can tell us what Yaya advisers told Yaya to
>order the murder of our children on April 10 and 11. Mr. Jobe might also
>want to tell us the identities of the people that gave Yaya the 'get rich
>quick' formula that enabled an illiterate like Yaya to steal millions of
>dollars from the Gambian people. Mr. Jobe might also want to shed some
>light
>on the Basse ambush, the attempted murders, abductions, rapes, arsons and
>other heinous crimes perpetrated by members of the July 22nd movement.
>KB
>
>
>>From: Saikou Samateh <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: CIVIL SERVANTS FORCED TO BUY APRC MEMBERSHIP CARDS/INDEPENDEN
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>>Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 17:56:23 +0100
>>
>>Hello Baba,
>>Since this forum is also a medium of infor and exchange of ideas,is it not
>>better for  you to tell us what has been said here that is wrong or what
>>you
>>feel the government did that is right,perhaps this will be a more useful
>>way
>>of contributing to this forum than just assuming that infor coming from
>>the
>>Gambia could be wrong and in the name of democracy let people speak their
>>mind,don't try to corrupt it.Have a nice day.
>>For Freedom
>>Saiks
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: baba jobe <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2000 3:17 PM
>>Subject: Re: CIVIL SERVANTS FORCED TO BUY APRC MEMBERSHIP CARDS/INDEPENDEN
>>T
>>
>>
>> > Thank you very much Sariang. I totally agree with the end results that
>>we
>> > all so much desire. But at what cost? What i was saying here is that we
>> > ought to be a little bit cautious and sceptical if you like, with
>>certain
>> > information being received from the Gambia.
>> >
>> > Let the anger and maybe  hatred of the system in the Gambia not cloud
>>our
>> > judgement. There are a lot of things wrong with the administration in
>>place
>> > in the Gambia. That my dear friend, is a fact.
>> >
>> > But i beg to disaggree that everything  done by the government in the
>>Gambia
>> > is wrong. The government is bound to get it right sometimes, no matter
>>how
>> > small a percentage compared to the whole picture.
>> >
>> > Have it ever occured to you that Yaya might not be as bad as we are all
>> > being made to believe? Maybe the guy is making a lot of mistakes
>>(trusting
>> > wrong advisers)? Just a thought which i think will be expanded for all
>>the
>> > wrong reasons. Just think about.
>> >
>> > But what is surprising is that  the majority on this forum tend to
>>ignore
>> > the fact that the Government gets it right sometimes. But choose to
>>ignore
>> > that fact and refuse to believe that this government can get anything
>>right.
>> > This is not conducive to democracy that we all so much desire, or
>>should
>>i
>> > say claim to desire.
>> >
>> > Let not our anger and hatred cloud our perspective and thinking.
>> >
>> > And Sariang, what makes you so sure that i am on the ground in the
>>gambia,
>> > are you not assuming. You see this is got to  stop. When you are
>>dealing
>> > with issues that concern a whole nation, you have got to be sure of
>>your
>> > facts, and there should be no room for assumptions.
>> > Thus all information coming from, or about events in the Gambia should
>>not
>> > always be taken as the Gospel truth, but scrutinsed objectively.
>> >
>> > For your information i do not support any political party in the
>>Gambia.
>> >
>> > But i used to read the L when i was in the Gambia (a long time ago),
>>and
>> > sometimes the information on the L would be so much at variance with
>>what
>> > was actually hapenning/happened on the ground that it was unbelievable,
>>to
>> > the extend of being laughable.
>> >
>> > If the people using this forum are not careful, they risk loosing the
>>crust
>> > of what this forum is supposed to provide. This forum used to be an
>>accurate
>> > source of information. That is why we all need to be focussed on the
>>real
>> > end result desired in the Gambia, and let not our emotions guide us.
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time.
>> >
>> > baba
>> >
>> >
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