----- Original Message -----
From: "Fye Samateh" <[log in to unmask]>
To: "Monica Ceesay" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: Re: Female Circumcision
Hello Monica,
You must have got the best answer from this islamic scholar of yours,FGM has nothing to do with islam,christianity, judaism or any African culture,This has been a brutal babaric practices some(1000)years ago on our women,and only way to discribe it is- PAGANISM-It has to stop.
RESPECT
Fye Samateh
In Oslo.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Monica Ceesay" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 12:14 PM
Subject: Re: Female Circumcision
> Dear GL:ers,
> I cannot say that I have followed this debate very
> carefully. Somebody that has a great knowledge in Islam
> told me that FGM is against the Islamic rules. Can
> anyone tell me how it is with that? I am sorry if the
> answer has been written before, as I told you I have
> not followed this issue very good.
> Greetings from a Sweden where spring is coming...
> from Monica Ceesay.
>
> Quoting momodou olly-mboge <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> > <html><DIV>
> > <P>Mr Conteh,</P>
> > <P>With respect, i think your position on Female
> Genital Mutilation is
> > simply wrong. You said that you are proud
> that no one have died
> > from this practice. How did you come to such a
> conclusion? What are
> > the facts that back your evidence? It is not enough
> to say that your grand
> > mother counselled you not to discuss such a sensitive
> issue. Those
> > who are really qualify to talk on this issue are
> those who went through
> > this ancient practice. </P>
> > <P>One of the contributors on the L who have gone
> through such a practice
> > and who is relentlessly campaigning for
> the abandonment of this
> > practice is my sister. She is not spurred by
> any western
> > ideology. She is simply against such a practice
> because FGM do not
> > serve any positive purpose. It rather
> traumatises our
> > women. Some of our sisters engaged in
> the struggle
> > to eradicate this practice are
> culturally more aware than
> > many of us. There campaign have been waged in
> the tradition of
> > respect for elders. My sister have
> been engaging our elders
> > for many years on the FGM issue. She have no
> illusion that it is an
> > easy task. Of course it is difficult but by God it is
> worth it. I
> > wish her and everyone all the best in this noble
> task.</P>
> > <P>I think also we should go beyond this
> continuous chiding of western
> > ideology. Culture is a living thing.
> It is always
> > changing. It has never been static.
> For me, good cultural
> > practices, good education and health practices are
> universal. They no
> > boundaries. </P>
> > <P>Bravo Ms Herlund.</P>
> > <P>Regards,</P>
> > <P>Mboge</P>
> > <P> </P>
> > <P> </P></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>>From: Lamine Conteh
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > <DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-
> issues mailing list
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > <DIV></DIV>>To: [log in to unmask]
> > <DIV></DIV>>Subject: Female Circumcision
> > <DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 18:06:39 -0500
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>Comrades:
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>Now that Mr. Hernlund has co authored
> a book on
> > <DIV></DIV>>female circumcision, I wonder how much
> he will
> > <DIV></DIV>>earmark in educating us about any
> potential
> > <DIV></DIV>>danger on this sensitive issue.
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>Being a child of the rural areas, I am
> skeptical
> > <DIV></DIV>>of the net effect of Mr. Hernlund's
> narratives.
> > <DIV></DIV>>I am proud to say that no one has died
> of
> > <DIV></DIV>>complications as a result of female
> circumcision
> > <DIV></DIV>>in my native Kombo East District,
> despite western
> > <DIV></DIV>>illusions. My grandmother who was one
> of the
> > <DIV></DIV>>elders of this tradition had always
> told me to
> > <DIV></DIV>>not even discuss this topic because it
> is a
> > <DIV></DIV>>woman's issue.
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>I am concern that some women have
> taken this as
> > <DIV></DIV>>a crusade for women's rights. With all
> due
> > <DIV></DIV>>respect, we can convince our elders if
> we
> > <DIV></DIV>>approach female circumcision from a
> moderate
> > <DIV></DIV>>point of view. The word "FGM" if
> interpreted in
> > <DIV></DIV>>any Gambian language will upset many
> Gambian
> > <DIV></DIV>>women. I think "FGM" should be
> replaced with
> > <DIV></DIV>>just female circumcision. I want to
> assure The
> > <DIV></DIV>>Gambian women that I believe in gender
> equality.
> > <DIV></DIV>>I am, however concern about the
> division this
> > <DIV></DIV>>might cause in our society. Please let
> us use
> > <DIV></DIV>>our culture to curb female
> circumcision.
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>In trying to reach your audience one
> has to be
> > <DIV></DIV>>very careful in the choice of words.
> Those who
> > <DIV></DIV>>are advocating a ban on female
> circumcision
> > <DIV></DIV>>should try and live with the locals
> and assimilate
> > <DIV></DIV>>in the culture before they bombard
> them with their western
> > <DIV></DIV>>ideologies.
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>I hope the audience is not
> interpreting my annunciation has
> > a
> > <DIV></DIV>>proponent of female circumcision. In
> fact, I am oppose to
> > it, but
> > <DIV></DIV>>I would rather engage The Gambian
> women from a lay person's
> > <DIV></DIV>>point of view than subject them to
> western illusions. Our
> > African
> > <DIV></DIV>>culture should stay intact, but we also
> > <DIV></DIV>>must change as the world changes
> around us. An elder in
> > <DIV></DIV>>the rural areas or in the cities
> > <DIV></DIV>>of The Gambia will understand us
> clearly if we
> > <DIV></DIV>>approach them in our rich Gambian
> culture. We must
> > <DIV></DIV>>clearly know that western ideologies
> are not supreme.
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>With the passage of time the West has
> tried numerous
> > <DIV></DIV>>times to set the clock for us. Some
> people have
> > <DIV></DIV>>come with false hope of salvaging us.
> It is sad to
> > <DIV></DIV>>say that this people are only
> interested in enriching
> > <DIV></DIV>>themselves.
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>Naphiyo,
> > <DIV></DIV>>
> > <DIV></DIV>>Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh
> > <DIV></DIV>>
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