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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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Bira Go, please take it easy on Ginny, she means well.  She is also free to 
support the UDP and that's alright, regardless her reasons.  What I find 
troubling is this.  We all heard Ousainou in the press and in his live 
Gambia Post interview and other gatherings being asked about why he left 
NADD.  Did any hear him say that it was because of vote buying on behalf of 
the OJ camp?  No.  Did he mention Dullo Bah any where?  No.  And so, how is 
my good friend Ginny so comfortable to run with yet another excuse for 
Ousainou leaving NADD, that is not articulated by Ousainou any where, is my 
wonder?  Besides, that gathering that Ginny attended, was it not a UDP 
gathering?  Was the purpose to pitch for APRC or NADD, or was it as 
announced, to conduct UDP business and victory party for KE?  And so, I 
would be cautious with what I swallow in such a gathering.  If you care to 
know Ginny, this is about the sixth or so excuse, each offered individually 
as the months go by, as to why Ousainou left NADD.  So, which is which?  As 
you continue to commingle with Gambians, you will learn certain things about 
us that most outsiders can be around and yet not understand.  Keep listening 
and be attentive to detail and you will discover the truth on your own and 
by our own utterances.

Regarding the relationship between Waa and Ousainou, that is between two 
Gambians out of 1.5 million and an overwhelming majority of whom are 
marginalized and starved, thus, their personal conflicts is the least of my 
concerns.  Ousainou rendered his opinion on Halifa, OJ, and Waa, in the 
press and on his Gambia Post interview, so where does the buck stop?  Gambia 
is bigger than the five opposition leaders and their personal likes and 
dislikes is really not my concern.  What counts to me is, do they put 
themselves first, or the wishes of the Gambian masses, that is the question. 
  At some point, Gambians will force themselves to adopt the truth or foster 
a lie and the gain/casualty will be our collective.  This will not be the 
first and certainly not be the last that we squandered an opportunity to 
change our lot.  Clue, look at how we address tragedy in its entirety, from 
the murder of Koro, the Student Massacre, The murder of Deyda, among many 
others, and the recent rouse of a frame up and round up, and you see some of 
our contradictions.  There is a lot in there than meets the eye.  Thanks for 
your thoughts and keep contributing.

Chi Jaama

Joe


>From: "bira go" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: Re: [>-<] The Kombo East by-elections
>Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:42:58 +0000
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>Fellow compatriots,
>
> 
>
>I would like the supporters of the UDP/NRP Alliance and those of NADD to 
>take their time and examin this note of mine carefully before responding to 
>it. We are all Gambians afterall.
>
> 
>
>Sometimes we are so naļve and think that someone is supporting us but 
>unfortunately, it could be quite the contrary.
>
> 
>
>Qur'aan
>
>[49:6] "O ye who believe! If a wicked person comes to you with any news, 
>ascertain the truth, lest ye harm people unwittingly, and afterwards become 
>full of repentance for what ye have done".
>
> 
>
>I am saddened not because of the current political situation in the Gambia 
>but the openly false information which we are absurbing, unchallenged, thus 
>creating more hatred and division of our people. We always need to examin 
>statements that adress our current dispensation in a sober manner.
>
> 
>
>     My "support" for the UDP/NRP stems from my understanding of what 
>caused the split in the first place.  My understanding is that, what 
>ultimately led to the split had to do with the initial selection of the 
>flag-bearer, where Omar Jallow was selected.  As it was explained to me, 
>Ousainou Darboe and Omar Jallow were the two candidates up for the 
>selection of the flag-bearer of NADD.  Hamat Bah had put his support behind 
>Ousainou Darboe, and as he was in Dakar, he delegated the voting 
>responsibility to Dulo Bah.  Dulo Bah, instead, voted for Omar Jallow, at 
>which point, the selection process was stopped, because the NADD chairman 
>had been told in advance that the NRP was backing Darboe.
>
>
>     "When asked why Dulo Bah was voting for Omar Jallow, when it had 
>already been communicated to the chairman of NADD that Dulo would be voting 
>for Darboe, he made the statement that "Hamat Bah was a dictator".  
>However, up to this time, Dulo Bah had never mentioned this as a problem 
>before.
>
>
>Now, my understanding is that the actual reason why Dulo Bah voted for Omar 
>Jalow was not because "Hamat Bah was a dictator", but because he was bribed 
>into voting for Omar Jallow, instead of Ousainou Darboe.
>
>
>     In my statements at the Nashville meeting yesterday, I said that if 
>this was the case, if Dulo Bah was indeed bribed into voting for Omar 
>Jallow, then I could no longer support a party / coalition who engaged in 
>this sort of behavior. 
>
> 
>
>If this statement was not meant to create more division among Gambians 
>through falsehood, then I don't know what it's reason was.
>
> 
>
>First of all, I think Ginny should expose the source of this statement if 
>it is not She herself who composed it. Because this is one of the most 
>malignant statements in this inter-opposition debate, designed to destroy 
>the very fabric of intelectual honesty, to say it mildly.
>
> 
>
>The biggest contradiction in this statement is: Mr Dulo Bah is still part 
>of the NRP and the UDP/NRP Alliance to this day. So, if this Alliance is 
>supported on the basis of sympathy for being victim of bribery, then Mr 
>Dulo Bah should have been dismissed from this institution inorder for it to 
>gain any credible support by such sympathisers. 
>
> 
>
>I would like Ginny to tell us, through her source by revealling his/her 
>name.
>
>Who bribed Dulo Bah?
>
>Why is he still with the NRP?
>
>Why is it Hamat Bah who should beside as to whom to vote for and not the 
>party?
>
> 
>
>Because how can an opposition party / coalition claim to be better than the 
>incumbent government who, as is well-known, engages in fraudulent tactics 
>including vote-buying, when said opposition party engages in the same 
>tactics?"
>
> 
>
>If Dulo Bah is one of the culprits and he is with the UDP/NRP, then why do 
>you support that Alliance?
>
> 
>
>"I feel that in order for the opposition to have a stronger chance of 
>beating the APRC come October, the opposition must be united". 
>
> 
>
>Why would you like a descent Alliance to unite with another which in your 
>eyes in engaged in fraud causing rejection from you in the first place?
>
> 
>
>"Honest attempts should have been made to ascertain why the split took 
>place,"
>
> 
>
>This again shows that all the previous staements you made are false.
>
> 
>
>"In fact, attempts were made to malign Darboe, even before Darboe actually 
>resigned, and in order to see this, one can go back and read the numerous 
>pieces posted by Pa Nderry Mbai, in at least the weeks leading up to the 
>split from NADD by the UDP/NRP."
>
> 
>
>Here again, you have to qualify these assertions based on facts as a honest 
>Muslim before jumping to any conclutions.
>
> 
>
>If The Aliance at that particular period in time had a good public 
>communication policy, there would not have been any neccessity for leacages 
>or speculations regarding their precceedings and the debate taking place in 
>that forum. There is transparency in every democratic intstitution.
>
> 
>
>The actors, be they Party leaders or not, should have been communicating 
>with the public as Halifa was doing in his personal capacity as well as 
>giving the general NADD point of view in the form of Press release.
>
> 
>
>We need to know the positions taken by those whom we support at all time 
>inorder not to be blind followers into an unknown path.
>
> 
>
>"Just this past Friday, there was an article in the Point newspaper, where 
>Lamin Waa Juwara alleges that the reason why the UDP could not contest the 
>last Parliamentary elections was because Ousainou Darboe used party funds 
>to pay a tax bill. "
>
> 
>
>Don't you think that it is or roght as Gambians to know of the dealings of 
>the people who wants to lead us in the name of transparency? Or does this 
>only apply to Jammeh? 
>
> 
>
>Are the opposition leaders some sort of holy cows?  
>
>Are they to be excused for excesses they commit just because they are in 
>the opposition?
>
> 
>
>Is this not bribery for someone to become a party leader?
>
>Is this not usery?
>
> 
>
>"Also, wasn't Lamin Waa Juwara still a member of UDP at this time?  If so, 
>did he bring this up at the time, and if not why?  And why bring this up 
>now, when it's not even Darboe himself running for office?"
>
> 
>
>These questions of yours MUST be answered by Lamin Waa Juwara as well, for 
>us to give him any credit or condemn him like we do with Jammeh, for he is 
>not a sacred cow.
>
> 
>
>"The bottom line is that both NADD and UDP/NRP want the same things for the 
>Gambian people."
>
> 
>
>This does not seem to be the platform with which the two Alliances 
>approached the electorate of Kombo East. It may be your personal view.
>
> 
>
>"Also, if NADD takes the position of some of their supporters that "if you 
>are for NADD, you are for The Gambia, but if you're not for NADD, you're 
>not for The Gambia, or you're only for yourself", how will NADD treat the 
>voters they perceive as not voting for them, if indeed, they win the 
>elections in October?  Will their be repercutions for the "districts that 
>didn't vote for us"?"
>
> 
>
>I don't understand if Ginny is asserting or asking a question.
>
>If it is question then, I would tell you that, with the volume of 
>experience that Africans have gathered regarding PARTY-LED Alliances, the 
>results so far are of the worst kind. The closest to our situation is that 
>of Senegal where a monster in the person of Abdoulaye Wade was created by a 
>naļve and tied people lead by an opposition that was desparate just to come 
>to power by just
>getting rid of the incumbent. So we don't wish to see this situation 
>repeated in our beloved country. But NADD cannot determine this but the 
>electorate.
>
> 
>
>To remind you again, NADD or general change in the Gambia is not about this 
>or that personallity, although one cannot seperate the politics with the 
>personailties who subscribes to it.
>
> 
>
>Some of us subscribe to the NADD MOU which aims to rid the Gambian people 
>with these petty politics and create the basis for each and every Gambian 
>to engage in SELF-EMANCIPATION so as not to be dictated to or used by 
>another person, whoever that may be. No leader can emancipate the people 
>but the people themselves.
>
> 
>
>NADD's MOU is a challenge for every Gambian to be an integral part of the 
>process to collective liberation and in shaping the future. This why you 
>could remark very frank debate among NADD supporters that is leading to 
>mutual understanding and cooperation. This also needs a consistent self and 
>collective-scrutiny of all irrespective of their position in the movement.
>
> 
>
>Hope for a constructive debate inorder to find means of redeeming our 
>beloved nation and people.
>
> 
>
>Biraago
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
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