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Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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Well Suntou,
 
Let me explain something to you. You see you must not view Mr. Mbowe's  
recalcitrance with a personal lens. Mr. Mbowe represents his religion as much as  
he is a Gambian fellow citizen. View it in a more more Existential context as 
to  the Jamaa'At Ahmadiyya and their ulamaa. In other words if the Ahmadiyya 
were to  agree with you that Muhammad is the SEAL/Finale of Muslim Prophethood, 
The  Ahmadiyya cease to exist as an Islamic Sect or Religion. Therefore, no 
matter  how many species of evidence you produce from the Qur'An, Mr. Mbowe or 
other  Ahmadiyya is not at liberty to agree with you. It is the entire religion 
that  must acknowledge that and either declare that they are a sect of Islam 
and  abandon the prophecy and books of Ghulam Ahmad for the Qur'An and Hadith 
or  Declare that they are not an Islamic Religion and Cease trespasses on 
Islam and  Islam's books.
 
I had sequestered myself last night and I went into prayer. I solicited  
guidance from Allah as to the most appropriate way to share such terminal  
revelation as to one religion or other. I want to share with you that when I  woke up 
this morning, my mind is very clear as to manner of sharing of the  
revelation for the Khatama Nubuwaa. However, you must forgive me for I am not  steady 
at the moment. I am travelling and therefore using my laptop. As soon as  I 
reach firmer ground, I shall share it with our fellow muslims and Jamaa'At  
Ahmadiyya.
 
 
In a message dated 9/1/2008 11:32:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

indeed  Haruna, the Ahamadiya movement's reison de'ta is the believe of the  
continuity of prophet-hood among Muslims but close to non-Muslims. i know for  
certain an old fellow like mbowe who spent all his life believing that  
prophet-hood continuous will stop now because of the evidences produce right  in 
front of him. he will not. but if truly he believe in the continuation of  
prophet-hood, i wonder why he himself did not claim to be one for us Gambian  
Muslims, that will make more sense to me than an Indian fellow with an inept  
understanding of Arabic who was hell-bent on twisting verses to the best of  
ability. 
Haruna, what is your message to humanity? 

--- On Mon,  1/9/08, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Haruna  Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Ramadan:Just to let you  know (Muhammad). Suntou and Muslims
To:  [log in to unmask]
Date: Monday, 1 September, 2008, 10:58  PM

Brother Suntou,

Emails forwarded to me from Posten reveal  that you and fellow Muslims are  
undergoing some chagrin about some  challenges from our Ahmadiyya brother Mr. 
 
Mbowe and friend Mr.  Janneh. I wish to share with you that Allah/God has  
revealed to me  (I am not a prophet to Muslims because I also believe  in
Muhammad as  
the closure of Muslim prophets), where the source of the impasse   between 
you 
brothers might be.

In honour of Ramadan Mubarak, I  wanted to share with you and Mr.  Mbowe what 
I have been made to  understand by Allah/God, but I wish to  exercise 
enormous 
caution  until I can appreciate the value or demerits in my  sharing such  
revelation. I will give you a hint that both you and Mr. Mbowe are   ignoring
the 
glaring fact so spectacularly and you individual interests  in your  
respective 
religions is blinding you to the obvious. I will  warn you that  no matter 
how 
many Ayahs of the glorious Qur'An you  may share with brother Mbowe  or
other, 
you shall not be able to  convince him or the Jamaa'At Ahmadiyya that 
indeed 
Muhammad is the  final prophet because it is an existential matter for the  
Ahmadiyya  and they have too enormous a capital already invested in the 
religion
to  
yield at this Eleventh hour. However, I must warn you also that the   
revelation challenges earlier-held beliefs that the Qur'An speaks to  all
peoples  and 
nations.

From the far side, you can begin  to see why the revelation could be both  
existential as to the  Jamaa'At Ahmadiyya while constraining the territorial
and  
human  claims of Islam. In effect it makes Da'Awa more difficult.

Masoud.  MQJGDT. Darbo. Abdallah! 


In a message dated 9/1/2008 4:48:22 P.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:

Back  at  you brother Musa. I vill be vaiting for your pledge and or  
donation  

to our Fatou Jaw Manneh Fund. Ramadan or no Ramadan. Be  blessed! Thanx for  
your  DIY Religion tips. Not you Suntou. You  like Do It Someone else  
Religion.

Haruna.


In a  message dated 9/1/2008 9:47:45 A.M.  Eastern Daylight Time,   
[log in to unmask] writes:

On  this  Special Day,In this  Special Month,the Month of the Holy Quran  ,The
Month of   Mercy,Forgiveness,Charity and Patience,I hereby wish to  send the
best  of  Ramadan Greetings to the following:1.Brother  Baboucarr,  Dr  Alhaji
S.Jeng,Brother Momodou of Bantaba fame,Brother  Haruna  with his  DIY
tips,Brother Suntou,Brother Yero and the   indefatigable sister Gunjur.  and a
rising star in the community   sister Fatou Of JONGAMA and of course,  members
of the Moderating  Team  of this forum.
The very best of   salam,
Musa.


2008/8/31  Dr. Alhaji S. Jeng   <[log in to unmask]>

> May Allah (SWT)  accept our prayers  and  forgive us our sins. A blessed
> Ramadhan  to  all.
>
> Dr.  Alhaji S.   Jeng
>
>
>
>
>
>
>    -----Opprinnelig melding-----
> Fra: The Gambia and  related-issues   mailing list
>  [mailto:[log in to unmask]] På vegne av  Musa  Amadu  Pembo
> Sendt: 31. august 2008 15:09
> Til:    [log in to unmask]
> Emne: Ramadan:Just to let you    know.
>
> Hello Folks,
> This is to let you know  when   Ramadan is starting in the following
>  Countries:-
>
>   1.Libya starts Today Sunday,31st  August,2008.
>
>  2.Nigeria:-The  Sultan of Sokoto  declares Sunday the First Day of 
Ramadan.
>
>  3.Muslims  in   Tunisia,Algeria,Morocco,Mauritius will sight Ramadan   Moon
>  on
>    Sunday,31st  August,2008.
>
>   4.Ramadan falls on Monday,Ist  September,In North America based  on
>   calculations.
>
> 5.Sunnis in Iraq and Lebanon  Starts  Ramadan on  Monday,1st September.
>
> 6.Ramadan starts   Monday,1st September in  the following Countries:-
>    1.Saudi  Arabia
>      2.Qater
>     3.Bahrain
>      4.Kuwait
>     5.UAE
>      6.Yemen
>       7.Syria
>      8.Palestine
>       9.Turkey
>     10.Mauritania
>      11.Egypt
>     12.Sudan.
>      13.France
>     14.Belgium
>      15.Netherlands
>     16.Italy
>      17.Austria
>     18.Bosnia
>      19.Croatia
>    20.Serbia
>     21.Slovenia
>    22.Kosovo
>   23.Czech   Republic
>    24.Azerbaijan
>     25.Uzbekistan
>    26.Ukraine
>     27.Romania
>    28.Russia.
>     29.Macedonia
>   30.Montenegro
>    31.Bulgaria
>   32.Germany
>   34.Australia
>    35.Philippines
>   36.Glasgow,Scotland,UK
>
>  7.Muslims  in  1.India
>              2.Pakistan
>            3.Bangladesh
>          4.Kenya
>   Will sight Ramadan Moon On Monday,1st   September.
>
> ***8.Gambia  has not yet confirm the start  of  Ramadan according to
sources
>  on
>  the
>     ground.
>
> The list is by no   means exhaustive.
>  Wishing you all Ramadan Mubarak.
>   Musa.
>   .
>
>   
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