Pa Pierre,
I like you. FYI there is an art to collegial conversations and it is not
Cuttin & Pastin. I will share the secret and mechanics with you for a fee. Pass
the collection plate around at next mass for only $3,000.00 and if you make
sincere effort toward raising this amount this sunday, I will grant you a 10%
discount toward the church sunday bible school.
I see that you are in agreement with Bailo, Father Mose, Abdoukarim, and
possibly Haruna. Even though you could not for the life of you bring yourself to
say so for the latter. I understand. Now then. If you look at the stuff you
cut and pasted to demonstrate agreement with these fine gentlemen, one extols
the virtues of Halipha, Sidia, and Sam. The next consolidates that
appreciation in the persons of the trio. The next appreciates these honourable men's
value when they utilize Foroyaa as outlet. The last, mine, distills the former
three into digestible form for the PDOIS diehard. So in effect, we are all
saying the same thing. What you, Bailo, Karim, and Father Mose do not
appreciate is the dis-incentives of occultism. I share with you that Halifa, Sidia,
Sam, and or Foroyaa, do not PDOIS make but they are instruments of PDOIS. You
may not appreciate the depth of that statement yet but I am confident it will
gradually sink into you guys in time. Hoping good time. The longer it takes
to appreciate the value (even to yourselves) of that statement and summary,
the more fleeting PDOIS' fortunes in her quest for votes would be. Less Karim,
the three of you drones are in denial for the moment. If you three sit down
with Halifa, Sam, or Sidia, they will explain to you the potential detriment
you augur for PDOIS due to your current denials. I excepted Karim because the
man is honourable, but he recovers from shell-shock and I know he is pretty
nervous and sensitive. What Karim shares with you is true, that Foroyaa is
omni-present thanks possibly to the vacuum left by The independent and an
independent Daily Observer. And Karim is easily excitable. What the three of you
ought to do is instead of prey on Karim's shortcoming, you ought to synthesize
that same goodwill into tangible gain for PDOIS. Help support Foroyaa with
funds and articles to place your signature on the product so it wouldn't look
like a milling machine for Halifa, Sam, and Sidia, all in the service of
PDOIS. I know this seems complicated for Bailo, but trust me, I could have made it
more so. Here I share value with you PDOIS diehards.
Don't try too hard to pretend to agree with me. That is not necessary. I
share actionable counsel trained toward common prosperity and personal
accountability.
I love you Pa Pierre. Holla back. Masoud. MQJGomezDT. Darbo. Al Mutawakkil.
In a message dated 1/25/2008 3:09:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
My Dear Haruna,
"Halipha Sallah is an honourable man and one of the most genuine articles of
the human species. He is no saint though but he is a decent, honest,
inspiring Gambian. So is Sidia Jatta and Sam Sarr and many other Gambians at home
or abroad" Bailo.
"This is the real truth. Thank you sir for the above truism" Musa JEng
"They are active voice for social enligtment". Abdoukarim Sanneh
I agree entirely with my brothers. I share your feelings.
"if you pluck Sidia, Sam, or Halifa out of the politburo and place them
in
the "compromising" situations you had been under when you were corrupted
under
duress, that the trio will have to rely on their own characters and
pre-dispositions to counter the temptations you yielded to??? YES SIR!
I said this before like this " They deliberately chose to lead a life that
is less confortable than mine. This is my short coming Sir. Am not going to
lie about it.
PDOIS politburo is actually more than Halifa, Sam, and
Sidia, why .........on those three is bewildering)share with you my
good brother, is that when you compare an organisation of several
individuals" ............. THE COPY AND PASTE WAS NOT RIGHT AND AM TOO TIRED
TO GO BACK AND GET THE WHOLE STATEMENT. SORRY.
Haruna
You are right. But remember, They came to public arena in 1987 and they are
still together. AFPRC came into public arena in 1994. But it is now ashunder.
PPP, gone. GPP, gone. NCP, gone. Thses men are a classic example of unity.
Unity free of gussip, rumour and backbitting. What else do you expect from
these men, my dear Brother?
Did i not tell you in my initial posting that i was not trying to pick a
fight with you. How could i concluded without expressing my gratitude at the
kind manner you responded. THANK YOU.
Pa-Pierre
--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Pa Pierre is a handsome man
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:39:29 EST
My good friend Pa Pierre,
I know you're a good and innocent man but I did not know you will wear the
PDOIS heart on your sleeve. I want you to take a deep breath and let your
mind
wander a bit. I know that is anathema to PDOIS dogma, but just try it.
Please. I think you have too terribly insulated your imagination and
creativity to
a point that like PDOIS, you fail to grow with nature.
"Dear Haruna, I have stated in the past that you belong to fine calibre of
inellectuals. A trait that stands out among your other attributes is how you
employ the Socrates techniques of using opponents statements to shackle them
intellectually. I do not wish to pick a debate with you; Needless to say, do
not bother to shackle me." PP
Thank you Pa Pierre, you're too kind. You belong to your own unique calibre
of intellectuals too you know. We only diffre in calibres and circumstance
but intellectual nonetheless. I appreciate the kind words and I promise you
my
engagements with you can only be civil. Because you have demonstrated
immense
restraint even though I may have caused you enormous pain by seeming not to
like PDOIS or Halifa, or Sam, or Sidia. I think that's a big stretch but
I'll
pretend you're right. I don't know about PDOIS, but the gentlemen can
discern if I dislike them or not.
"I have a few observasions and objections to unfold on your table. PDOIS,
or
Halifa, Sam and Sedia, are not wolfs in sheep clothings." PP.
Pa Pierre, what brings you to such query? I agree with you that these fine
and handsome gentlemen are indeed genuine and sincere to the core of their
souls. They are and have always been generous also. So I wonder why you
bring
yourself to consider "are not wolves in sheep's clothing"?
"They are not angels chanting satanic pranks either." PP
OK. From the two statements I believe you share with us that they are
humans, you just can't qualify their characters. Fair enough.
"They are men like you and i. Men who deliberately chose to lead a
livestyle
less confortable than i guess yours and mine." PP
I would be more comfortable if you were to speak for yourself Pa Pierre.
The
reason is because I don't compare very well to others.
"In view of this you may use your own yardstick to determind where u want
to
place them." PP
I see where the problem lies. You probably think I am trying to place
Halifa, Sam, and Sidia somewhere. I was not, and I am not. I am looking at
the trio
through the prism of PDOIS, what they wish to offer me and my fellow
citizens. That's all. I couldn't care less where they are placed besides
PDOIS.
"In Gambia, i had the rare opportunity to interact with many personalities
of high esteem, but almost in all cases, i come out of the experience with
a
disappointing impressions. Every department i walk into, welcomes me with
that
ugly vice of corruption. Nawec, Gptc, Gamworks, Customs, portauthority,
Gcaa, Gamtel, Police, etc." PP
Did you agree to be welcomed by their enticements??? That is the question.
"All the places i names, i can mention an incident of corruption i was
forced to be part of or some how know about it by virture of my position at
the
time in question." PP
--- [log in to unmask] wrote:
From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Halifa Sallah is a handsome man /
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:19:02 +0000
Haruna,
.
Some of you folks criticise these PDOIS gentlemen as if PDOIS were the
arhitects of the on-going misery of Gambians. Humans can't live on hope alone.
Bread and rice is needed for living as well as fish and meat otherwise poverty
and malnuitrition becomes more and more prevalent as is already the trend in
our homeland. Currently in the Gambia, when the Senegalese and Guineans put
their tools down for whatever reason, Fish and bread becomes scarce in the part
of the Kombos I live. We have to stock up fish before the Senegalese
fishermen leave for eid festivals or the annual maggal should we want to eat fish
while they are away. Meanwhile, unidentified trawlers would be catching fish by
night in our waters day in day out for export at profitable prices. In the
meantime, there are lots of Gambians who are unemployed and with families to
feed. This is no fiction, it's the truth! Sometime ago, when PDOIS advised the
Government of the Gambia to invest in acquiring fishing
trawlers which would generate more employment and fish for Gambians, some
so-called intellectuals damned such ideas as dangerous Communist and Socialist
ideology and a system that would eventually usher in the socialisation of
every personal entitlement even wives. The polytricks set in and the voters were
bombarded with pure lies and fabrications about what PDOIS represents. I
guess then you were in Jamahiriya. Such false propaganda against PDOIS still
goes on mostly by armchair critiques with no proofs to back up their hatred of
PDOIS.
The acquistion of political power should be the means to a healthy,
dignified outcome for the greater masses and not only for a small clique of people
who crave for a coronation but no system change. The quality of leadership that
PDOIS is endowed with is what Africans both aspires for and deserve. We need
honest, dedicated and accountable leaders not self-annointed saviours.
What would you do should Edwards subsequently endorse Obama? I guess follow
the leader and the crowd. Remember as you respect and honour Edwards, so do
thousands of Gambian respect and share the principles of Halipha. Nuff
respect! Is the USA ready for change? I have a dream!
Haruna, you wrote: "Its time y'all wake up and smell the coffee
before its too late. If OBAMA becomes president at this time, blacks will
live to
regret it for their entire life. If they think that life is sorry now, they
aint seen nuttin yet. The days of settin on your fanny and expecting a
knight
in shining armour to rid you of your misery is OVER."
Do you really believe that Barack will bad for blacks including negroes? I
often feel sorry for Obama when he is put on the defensive with the accusation
that Obama is a Moslem. It's an accidental underpriveleged status to be a
Black in the US. Therefore, Obama cannot be seen to share the same faith with
the Al-qaeda leaders. I think the race card is being trumped against Obama. If
USA could have a Mormon president or a female president for the first time
since the declaration of Independence in 1776, why not a black president for
the first time? And why would Obama be bad for blacks? It's a great pity when
a blackman thinks like this. It's called mental slavery. George bush is a
president but Obama should not be because some people are concerned that the Ku
Klux Klan may come back. The color of Obama and the people who support him is
immaterial and insignificant to what the future holds for USA. What the USA
requires is a leader who understands and respects the diversity
of the world; a person who will deliver a significant break from the current
Bush policies of shock and awe in Iraq and Afghanistan. This doesn't mean a
capitulation to Al-qaeda's brand of terrorism.
Best wishes!
Bailop
"Bill and Hilary seem so desperate to get back." Bailo.
Bailo, ifanang. Ikeebaayaatale. I beg of you, do not yield to listless
gossip and gaucherie. Ginny is crazy's all I can say. Can you believe
someone
hating and slandering admittendly without reason? If that ain't crazy, I
don't
know what is.
"I hope America is at least ready for a mixed raced President in the White
House. Amen! I have a dream!" Bailo.
You guys still don't get it. America, like the UK, France, Italy, Sweden,
Denmark, Norway, and Australia etcetera, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN READY FOR
MIXED-RACE,
STRAIGHT-RACE, SKEWED-RACE candidates. For AMERICA, that just ain't BARACK
OBAMA at this time. God I hope you guys don't let sentimentalism and
untethered and listless hope confound you. At least not my Bailo and
Moribolong. I may
have lost Mr. Jobarteh already, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose you and
Ousman.
Please reconsider your unconditional attachment to Barack for President of
America. If you don't like John Edwards, please support Hillary Clinton.
Barack will make a great Secretary of State in either an Edwards or a
Clinton
Presidency. Then in 2012, he will have been ready to be President and all of
us,
including Edwards and CLinton will make sure he is President. Don't go
saying
that I think Barack needs more experience. NO THAT IS NOT what I'm saying
and frankly I think Barack has enough experience to be President somewhere.
Just not America. Barack will only be an effective President of America in a
more benign atmosphere. Not Now. We got a lotta work to do in America to
right
the sails after my friend W leaves office. Barack is not suitable for those
challenges. One reason is he does have some conflicts of interest that will
malign his foreign policy. Two is he lives in fantasy land about bringing
independents and republicans to join democrats and move the country forward.
Just
ask yourself, if independents, republicans, and democrats were to join
together, would his administration be needed to do anything??? That is the
far side
of this fairy tale that our other friend Bill Clinton talks about. In my
eyes, Duval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts will have gotten my vote were
he
to run for President at any time. I know he supports Barack. He has a
different reason for doing that. Bailo, I don't want to go on and on for God
knows I
want Barack to get as many black votes as he could, but you guys castigating
the Clintons and every body else for your support of Barack is detrimental
to
Barack himself. Don't get carried away by Ginny. You don't know Ginny's
politique. Even she doesn't know her own politique quite well. No comment on
Maria Del Sol. She will deal with her own unique deamons. And tell joe to
friggin
settle down. Anytime he opens his big mouth, you think the skies are falling
and life's over. I don't know about you Bailo, but I intend to live for
another year. I must say though that I agree with him this time about giving
idiots a pass. He's just too nervous for my sanity. He's the fear-monger
Barack
keeps talking about. And of course my other friend John McCain. I didn't
even
know that McCain cannot raise his two hands past his head. I always thought
he
was clowning around when he spread his arms wide as he raised them. Men. I
kinda like his fight though, just like I love the fight in John Edwards.
Ok I gotta go now. My contractor knocks at the door. Masoud. MQJDT Darbo. AL
Khairawan.
Haruna Darbo wrote:
I just saw a picture of Halifa without his Afro hair-do!!! Men is he
beautiful. I don't know why in the world he would hide all this beauty under
a wooly
Afro. Men. New Gambians!!! Check it our at _www.senegambianews.com_
(http://www.senegambianews.com)
Suntou, did you ever see Halifa without his Afro and don't you think he's
more handsomer without it?
Haruna.
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