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saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
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Mr. Bah,

Those are the big "N." Looking "mean" is an understatement. They're loud and
vicious. The more you ignore them, the more "fun" they have calling you
"Jungle Names." And they just don't stop at that. I know people who have
been physically attacked, pushed, spat upon for just being African.
I've actually had the misfortune of working with many such types when I was
a Supermarket Stocking Hand. The types of jokes I've heard them say about
Africans still riles me. But, I'd rather not go into that right now, 'cause
my blood pressure goes thru' the roof. The sheer ignorance and self-hatred
of this group never cease to amaze me. So, to see this Yusupha person
getting stuck at their skin color just makes me wonder. But why bother?

At least you seem to know the type I'm talking about, and Omar Drammeh seems
to have had an encounter with the "cool" type. I say Cool b/c from what Omar
said, the guy seems to have a little idea about his identity. The full-grown
ones have absolutely no clue.
You just have to pray not to run afoul of them 'cause they'll kill you in a
heartbeat - not for anything you may have done, but for where you originate.
Once they hear your accent, the bombs start falling.

Saul.

>From: alfusainey bah <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
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>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: SV: Re: To Yusupha on "NIGGERS JUST JUMPED ON THE SHIPS!"
>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 12:46:26 PST
>
>Hey saul,
>I was just wondering where those black Americans who look at Africans and
>ask them to go back to Africa, fall under your categories. Men do they look
>mean when they utter those words.
>Peace be upon all and may God bless
>Alasana bah
>
>
>>From: Omar Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: SV:      Re: To Yusupha on "NIGGERS JUST JUMPED ON THE SHIPS!"
>>Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 16:13:46 +0100
>>
>>Saul,
>>
>>I ran into one of those characters during my brief spell in D.C back in
>>1996, and boy, oh boy, that was unpleasnt. I dont want to go into that
>>here. The guy went further to brand me a sell-out, and why? Yes because I
>>was together with a white lady! This lady happens to be my wife.
>>
>>I hear you Saul. This guy will surely fit in your definition, as far as
>>I`m
>>concerned.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Omar.
>>-----Opprinnelig melding-----
>>Fra: saul khan <[log in to unmask]>
>>Til: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>Dato: 23. desember 1999 00:54
>>Emne: Re: To Yusupha on "NIGGERS JUST JUMPED ON THE SHIPS!"
>>
>>
>> >Mr. Jow,
>> >
>> >For goodness sakes, let's disagree on these terms, but don't insult me
>>by
>> >telling me that I'm "twisting" the words to suit me. You must be living
>>on
>> >another planet to even suggest I would do something like that. Get this
>>Mr.:
>> >I'm not Politically Correct. I hate euphemisms. I call a spade a SPADE!
>>If
>> >you've never met a Nigger, good luck and Power to you! I have, and it's
>>not
>> >very pleasant. There's nothing worse than being accosted by an ANIMAL in
>> >human (black) skin! I'm not questioning your right to be offended by the
>> >word "Nigger," don't question my mindset in using it!
>> >
>> >I'm sorry if you're too supperficial to understand what I'm saying, but
>>I
>> >won't be dragged into any silly argument. So, thanks for your opinion
>>'cause
>> >this is all I have to say about this topic. I just hope you don't run
>>into
>> >one of these characters some day. You may be forced to eat your words.
>> >
>> >So long!
>> >
>> >Saul.
>> >
>> >
>> >>From: Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>> >><[log in to unmask]>
>> >>To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>Subject: Re: To Yusupha on "NIGGERS JUST JUMPED ON THE SHIPS!"
>> >>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:59:17 EST
>> >>
>> >>Mr. Khan,
>> >>I did not miss your point at all. You have obviously decided to twist
>>the
>> >>meanings of these words to suit your needs.  As far as I am concerned,
>>the
>> >>meaning of those words are synonymous with their respective definitions
>>in
>> >>any dictionary. And, yes, the word negro and nigger have everything to
>>do
>> >>with skin color and nothing else.   It is until recently that people
>>have
>> >>tried to come up with alternative definitions of the word nigger where
>>it
>> >>is deemed suitable for  a white man  to be called or to use the N word.
>> >>But this is just, in my opinion, a justification to use this word.  If
>> >>anyone is "deep" enough to accept this excuse for the use of the word,
>>then
>> >>that person is no better than the ignorant prejudiced white person that
>>you
>> >>alluded to.
>> >>
>> >>I hate to belabor this point, but since you have chosen to justify what
>>I
>> >>consider a rather clumsy and crude attempt at stereotyping black folk
>>in
>> >>order  to make a point, it is my responsibility to voice my dissension
>> >>whether you like it or not. I simply do not agree with you and, believe
>>me,
>> >>it is not a case of missing the point.
>> >>
>> >>Yus
>> >>
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