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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 7 Mar 2006 19:47:33 +0000
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Mballow, there is no use you speaking now over "spilled milk".  When you had 
the chance to advise Ousainou, you agreed with what the UDP see as their 
interest and continue to believe so.  This is where some of you loose me all 
the time.  While the country is talking about NADD and a future Gambia, you 
keep talking about Ousainou and the UDP as if that is synonimous with 
Gambian aspirations.  The NADD MOU is Gambians' aspiration and the UDP is 
against it, thus we do not want the same things.

"What i am saying is you cannot be in the diaspora and dictate the Gambians 
people at the grass roots level and this is how your behavior looks like 
now."

Again, you will learn a thing or two about what it means to be a citizen of 
a country when this process is over.  So, one has to be on the ground to 
earn the right to demand better for their country?

"Finally,do not see me as your enemy, see me as a partner."

Mballow, we are at the stage of winning the hearts and minds of Gambians by 
unveiling our programs and vision for the country, how can we be partners in 
that?  NADD is going to sell their program and the UDP is going to do like 
wise, so what are we talking about when we talk about partnership at this 
juncture?  You are managing your campaign and NADD is doing like wise, with 
the goal to defeating the APRC, but separately.  That is a fact and is not 
likely to change because of the conditions the UDP lay down which Gambians 
that see NADD as the way forward have no interest in.  Let us talk straight 
to each other and stop using words loosely - partnership, unity, future 
alliance, etc.  The MOU that Gambians see as the first stage of our 
reconstruction process, is ground zero and none is going to be padded on the 
back for adopting it.  It is a condition that Gambians that want change 
agree upon and the UDP will not be an exception.

Mballow, I can go on and on with your fallacies, but it serves no purpose 
for me.  You'll believed it's either your way or the highway and have 
decided to wing it alone, then so be it.  Gambians are going to continue 
their fight.  I'm tied up any way and have only time to champion the NADD 
program and vision, which starts with the MOU.  Mballow, being pro NADD has 
nothing to do with hating you or the UDP.  The UDP at this time has a 
different outlook from Gambians that believed that the NADD vision is the 
way to go.  So, let us focus on being saleable to the voters.

Chi Jaama

Joe




>From: saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Ss. Daffeh
>Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 17:56:03 -0800
>
>Joe,
>         it does not make any sense to state that
>someone can own a country. If someone believe that
>then it is at your end.
>What i am saying is you cannot be in the diaspora and
>dictate the Gambians people at the grass roots level
>and this is how your behavior looks like now. Gambians
>have been participating in politics well before you
>and me come in.
>
>It is only a lunatic who will question whether
>Ousainou is sincere?. If he was not sincere, he would
>have left the UDP the party he is leading since August
>1996.
>
>Joe i said it here before, and i would say it again
>that i respect all those opposition party leaders,
>Ousainou , OJ, Hamat, Halifa and Waa regardless of
>their differences. They have volunteered to put their
>lives at stake just to bring democracy and human
>rights in the country so i believe it is a great thing
>to do.
>
>With all those names you are mentioning, i have no
>problem with them because they know who i am. The best
>thing for you to have done is stay focus and not to
>care about what the writers were writing about the
>coalition then. But no you jumed in immediately by
>blaming UDP, adding fuel to fire. This is the reason
>why I blame you because i know what it took for us to
>bring these five political parties together so for you
>to be part of the distroyers is unfortunate.
>
>Now how can you and me look up our heads and tell the
>APRC Government LOOK we have done it, we are matured
>people and have managed to solve our differences?
>NO.Tell them that here you are at a verge of
>vanishing, NO, but still we have time to work it out.
>
>Non of the opposition parties is our problem. I am not
>here to put a blame in any of them because i still
>believe we can work these differences out together for
>the interest of doing away with the APRC.
>
>Finally,do not see me as your enemy, see me as a
>partner. We are bound to have differences but at the
>end of day we move together for the interest of our
>country. We are at the National Assembly (laughter).
>
>Saihou
>
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>
>--- Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Mballow, thanks for your thoughts.  However, the
> > sooner you and the UDP know
> > that you do not own the Gambia, the better for all
> > of us.  This is really
> > laughable.  Now it is Joe Sambou that made
> > UDP/Ousainou leave NADD.  Look,
> > Ousainou betrayed the trust bestowed unto him by
> > Gambians and Gambians have
> > a reason to expect trust from Ousainou.  His and
> > your blind vision and
> > hunger for power made you'll to leave NADD.  Right
> > now I do not know what
> > unity you are talking about.  Those that were
> > sincere about NADD are still
> > with NADD.  The same STGDP you are talking about
> > begged Ousainou up to the
> > last minute to work with Gambians, but alas, for
> > you'll, it is winner take
> > all, and to hell with what Gambians wish.  Well, you
> > cannot turn this around
> > and I think you'll need to stick to one story for
> > your pretext.  One day,
> > there was mistrust within NADD, the next OJ did not
> > want a Mandingo to lead
> > NADD, or Waa hates Ousainou, or Dr. Saine did this;
> > Kebba Foon did that; PPP
> > did this, and STGDP did that, to Pa Nderry and now
> > your new addition is Joe
> > Sambou.  Funny you see everything in the room but
> > the White Elephant -
> > Ousainou/UDP.
> >
> > "It was after many attacks on Ousainou and UDP
> > leadership that the UDP
> > Supporters jump in."
> >
> > Mballow, bull!  Why would I jump on Ousainou before
> > he leaves NADD?  See,
> > you are not even making sense.  Why would STGDP fax
> > a letter to Ousainou and
> > called him and spoke with him for an hour plus,
> > begging him to give us 72
> > hours to work out something only for him to tell us
> > that there is no reverse
> > on his decision?  The "Hawks" amongst you'll won his
> > mind then.  What did
> > Ousainou say at his first press release?  Did you
> > hear my name in anything
> > he said, or the littney of the names above?  I told
> > you this is not 2001,
> > but hey, you thought you can just ram another one on
> > us.
> >
> >
> > Mballow, you may think that Gambians are slow, but
> > you will learn a thing or
> > two in the process.  We are pass the phase of
> > coaxing anyone and it is time
> > to unveil programs for a future Gambia and that is
> > what NADD is focusing on.
> >   You'll believe you are the biggest, baddest, and
> > the most popular, no
> > dispute, the people will decide that.  Mballow, if
> > you'll have the following
> > you claimed, you have ample time to demonstrate
> > that, thus we do not need to
> > talk about this any more.  Everyone who stayed in
> > NADD agreed with what they
> > signed - the MOU, which you'll are not interested
> > in.  You'll want to RULE,
> > it is your turn eh, to pick up from where Jammeh
> > left off, thus you have no
> > need for a level playing field, term limit,
> > selection process, etc.  Well,
> > sell that to the Gambian voter, your customer.  The
> > center of the universe
> > is not the UDP and I hope you'll recognize that
> > soon.  You got a program,
> > unveil it, that is what Gambians want to judge.
> >
> > Chi Jaama
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> > >From: saihou Mballow <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Ss. Daffeh
> > >Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:42:38 -0800
> > >
> > >Joe,
> > >       the bottom line is you Joe Sambou started
> > >attacking the UDP and Ousainou Darboe and at the
> > very
> > >time i caution you because i knew it would
> > frustrate
> > >our efforts, burst anger among the opposition
> > >supporters and lead to disunity that you and me
> > cannot
> > >control. All your writings  against the UDP and UDP
> > >leadership is on record and they are malicious. It
> > was
> > >after many attacks on Ousainou and UDP leadership
> > that
> > >the UDP Supporters jump in.
> > >
> > >Let me tell you that it is not that UDP supporters
> > >were afraid to respond but they though it was going
> > to
> > >be a passing cloud but NO and now here we are.
> > Every
> > >body is ready for word to a word.
> > >
> > >
> > >Let face the fact, no body would accept to be
> > insulted
> > >continuosly however you want unity or peace.
> > >
> > >Saihou
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ginny, to subscribe to the Post or L, Daffeh
> > will
> > > > not even burst a sweat.
> > > > Mballow knows that all he has to do is to ask
> > the
> > > > managers to subscribe
> > > > Daffeh.  Both Mballow and Daffeh know that, so
> > what
> > > > is the problem?  There
> > > > is no issue with Daffeh being a student and
> > sending
> > > > mails to the Post or L.
> > > > Instead of to Mballow, then to the L or Post, it
> > > > goes straight to the site
> > > > with an address that those that wish to respond
> > to
> > > > him to do so and
> > > > expecting a response in return.  I think that is
> > > > very reasonable.  The fact
> > > > that we are even explaining the obvious here
> > > > indicates that something is
> > > > fundamentally fishy with this whole deal and I
> > don't
> > > > think the readers are
> > > > that stupid, contrary to what some folks think
> > when
> > > > they bring their wares
> > > > here.  We need to stop assaulting commonsense
> > and
> > > > pretending that nothing is
> > > > happening.  If the rules allow this, then all
> > should
> > > > be able to do the same.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> > > > list
> > > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > >Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Ss. Daffeh
> > > > >Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:50:03 -0600
> > > > >
> > > > >Hello, Saihou, another idea would be for him to
> > put
> > > > up a blog, for example,
> > > > >with comments enabled, so people can comment on
> > > > what he is writing.  I'm
> > > > >offering this as an alternative solution, since
> > > > it's possible that his
> > > > >reasons for not subscribing to the Gambia-l and
> > > > Gambia Post may have to do
> > > > >with time constraints, in that he may not have
> > the
> > > > time to read through the
> > > > >amount of emails generated here.  That way, he
> > can
> > > > still get his articles
> > > > >posted in an online medium, and people have the
> > > > ability to comment on what
> > > > >he is saying.  Where else are these articles
> > > > available?  Maybe another
> > > > >suggestion would be to refer people to the
> > online
> > > > sources of the articles
> > > > >which he is writing, and again, give people the
> > > > chance to comment.  And I
> > > > >think that is the main issue here, that people
> > > > don't have the ability to
> > > > >comment or refute any of his points, and in
> > return,
> > > > get a response from
> > > > >him.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Getting a blog is relatvely simple and
> > free
> >
>=== message truncated ===
>
>
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