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My Dear Haruna,



"Halipha Sallah is an honourable man and one of the most genuine articles of the human species. He is no saint though but he is a decent, honest, inspiring Gambian. So is Sidia Jatta and Sam Sarr and many other Gambians  at home or abroad"     Bailo.

 

"This is the real truth. Thank you sir for the above truism"    Musa JEng





"They are active voice for social enligtment". Abdoukarim Sanneh



I agree entirely with my brothers. I share your feelings. 







"if you pluck Sidia, Sam, or Halifa out of the politburo and place them 

in  

the "compromising" situations you had been under when you were corrupted  

under 

duress, that the trio will have to rely on their own characters and  

pre-dispositions to counter the temptations you yielded to???  YES SIR!



I said this before like this " They deliberately chose to lead a life that is less confortable than mine. This is my short coming Sir. Am not going to lie about it. 



PDOIS politburo is actually more than Halifa, Sam, and 

Sidia,  why .........on those three is bewildering)share with  you my 

good brother, is that when you compare an organisation of several  

individuals" ............. THE COPY AND PASTE WAS NOT RIGHT AND AM TOO TIRED TO GO BACK AND GET THE WHOLE STATEMENT. SORRY.



Haruna



You are right. But remember, They came to public arena in 1987 and they are still together. AFPRC came into public arena in 1994. But it is now ashunder. PPP, gone. GPP, gone. NCP, gone. Thses men are a classic example of unity. Unity free of gussip, rumour and backbitting. What else do you expect from these men, my dear Brother? 





Did i not tell you in my initial posting that i was not trying to pick a fight with you. How could i concluded without expressing my gratitude at the kind manner you responded. THANK YOU. 



Pa-Pierre



 











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From:         Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>

To:           [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: Pa Pierre is a handsome man

Date:         Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:39:29 EST



My good friend Pa Pierre,

 

I know you're a good and innocent man but I did not know you will wear the  

PDOIS heart on your sleeve. I want you to take a deep breath and let your mind  

wander a bit. I know that is anathema to PDOIS dogma, but just try it. 

Please. I  think you have too terribly insulated your imagination and creativity to 

a point  that like PDOIS, you fail to grow with nature.

 

"Dear Haruna, I have stated in the past that you belong to fine calibre  of 

inellectuals. A trait that stands out among your other attributes is how you  

employ the Socrates techniques of using opponents statements to shackle them  

intellectually. I do not wish to pick a debate with you; Needless to say, do 

not  bother to shackle me." PP

 

Thank you Pa Pierre, you're too kind. You belong to your own unique  calibre 

of intellectuals too you know. We only diffre in calibres and  circumstance 

but intellectual nonetheless. I appreciate the kind words and I  promise you my 

engagements with you can only be civil. Because you have  demonstrated immense 

restraint even though I may have caused you enormous pain  by seeming not to 

like PDOIS or Halifa, or Sam, or Sidia. I think that's a big  stretch but I'll 

pretend you're right. I don't know about PDOIS, but the  gentlemen can 

discern if I dislike them or not.

 

"I have a few observasions and objections to unfold on your table. PDOIS,  or 

Halifa, Sam and Sedia, are not wolfs in sheep clothings." PP.

 

Pa Pierre, what brings you to such query? I agree with you that these  fine 

and handsome gentlemen are indeed genuine and sincere to the core of their  

souls. They are and have always been generous also. So I wonder why you bring  

yourself to consider "are not wolves in sheep's clothing"? 

 

"They are not angels chanting satanic pranks either." PP

 

OK. From the two statements I believe you share with us that they are  

humans, you just can't qualify their characters. Fair enough.

 

"They are men like you and i. Men who deliberately chose to lead a  livestyle 

less confortable than i guess yours and mine." PP

 

I would be more comfortable if you were to speak for yourself Pa Pierre.  The 

reason is because I don't compare very well to others.

 

"In view of this you may use your own yardstick to determind where u want  to 

place them." PP

 

I see where the problem lies. You probably think I am trying to  place 

Halifa, Sam, and Sidia somewhere. I was not, and I am not. I am looking at  the trio 

through the prism of PDOIS, what they wish to offer me and my fellow  

citizens. That's all. I couldn't care less where they are placed besides  PDOIS.

 

"In Gambia, i had the rare opportunity to interact with many  personalities 

of high esteem, but almost in all cases, i come out of the  experience with a 

disappointing impressions. Every department i walk into,  welcomes me with that 

ugly vice of corruption. Nawec, Gptc, Gamworks, Customs,  portauthority, 

Gcaa, Gamtel, Police, etc." PP

 

Did you agree to be welcomed by their enticements??? That is the  question.

 

"All the places i names, i can mention an incident of corruption i was  

forced to be part of or some how know about it by virture of my position at the  

time in question." PP

 













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From:         bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>

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Subject: Re: Halifa Sallah is a handsome man /

Date:         Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:19:02 +0000



Haruna,

   

  .

   

  Some of you folks criticise these PDOIS gentlemen as if PDOIS were the arhitects of the on-going misery of Gambians. Humans can't live on hope alone. Bread and rice is needed for living as well as fish and meat otherwise poverty and malnuitrition becomes more and more prevalent as is already the trend in our homeland. Currently in the Gambia, when the Senegalese and Guineans put their tools down for whatever reason, Fish and bread becomes scarce in the part of the Kombos I live. We have to stock up fish before the Senegalese fishermen leave for eid festivals or the annual maggal should we want to eat fish while they are away. Meanwhile, unidentified trawlers would be catching fish by night in our waters day in day out for export at profitable prices. In the meantime, there are lots of Gambians who are unemployed and with families to feed. This is no fiction, it's the truth! Sometime ago, when PDOIS advised the Government of the Gambia to invest in acquiring fishing

 trawlers which would generate more employment and fish for Gambians, some so-called intellectuals damned such ideas as dangerous Communist and Socialist ideology and a system that would eventually usher in the socialisation of every personal entitlement even wives. The polytricks set in and the voters were bombarded with pure lies and fabrications about what PDOIS represents. I guess then you were in Jamahiriya. Such false propaganda against PDOIS still goes on mostly by armchair critiques with no proofs to back up their hatred of PDOIS.

   

  The acquistion of political power should be the means to a healthy, dignified outcome for the greater masses and not only for a small clique of people who crave for a coronation but no system change. The quality of leadership that PDOIS is endowed with is what Africans both aspires for and deserve. We need honest, dedicated and accountable leaders not self-annointed saviours.  

   

  What would you do should Edwards subsequently endorse Obama? I guess follow the leader and the crowd. Remember as you respect and honour  Edwards, so do thousands of Gambian respect and share the principles of Halipha. Nuff respect! Is the USA ready for change? I have a dream! 

   

  Haruna, you wrote:  "Its time y'all wake up and smell the coffee 

before its too late. If OBAMA becomes president at this time, blacks will live to 

regret it for their entire life. If they think that life is sorry now, they 

aint seen nuttin yet. The days of settin on your fanny and expecting a knight 

in shining armour to rid you of your misery is OVER."

   

  Do you really believe that Barack will bad for blacks including negroes? I often feel sorry for Obama when he is put on the defensive with the accusation that Obama is a Moslem. It's an accidental underpriveleged status to be a Black in the US. Therefore, Obama cannot be seen to share the same faith with the Al-qaeda leaders. I think the race card is being trumped against Obama. If USA could have a Mormon president or a female president for the first time since the declaration of Independence in 1776, why not a black president for the first time? And why would Obama be bad for blacks? It's a great pity when a blackman thinks like this. It's called mental slavery. George bush is a president but Obama should not be because some people are concerned that the Ku Klux Klan may come back. The color of Obama and the people who support him is immaterial and insignificant to what the future holds for USA. What the USA requires is a leader who understands and respects the diversity

 of the world; a person who will deliver a significant break from the current Bush policies of shock and awe in Iraq and Afghanistan. This doesn't mean a capitulation to Al-qaeda's brand of terrorism. 

   

  Best wishes!

   

  Bailop

   

   

   

  



"Bill and Hilary seem so desperate to get back." Bailo.



Bailo, ifanang. Ikeebaayaatale. I beg of you, do not yield to listless 

gossip and gaucherie. Ginny is crazy's all I can say. Can you believe someone 

hating and slandering admittendly without reason? If that ain't crazy, I don't 

know what is.



"I hope America is at least ready for a mixed raced President in the White 

House. Amen! I have a dream!" Bailo.



You guys still don't get it. America, like the UK, France, Italy, Sweden, 

Denmark, Norway, and Australia etcetera, HAVE ALWAYS BEEN READY FOR MIXED-RACE, 

STRAIGHT-RACE, SKEWED-RACE candidates. For AMERICA, that just ain't BARACK 

OBAMA at this time. God I hope you guys don't let sentimentalism and 

untethered and listless hope confound you. At least not my Bailo and Moribolong. I may 

have lost Mr. Jobarteh already, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna lose you and 

Ousman. 



Please reconsider your unconditional attachment to Barack for President of 

America. If you don't like John Edwards, please support Hillary Clinton. 

Barack will make a great Secretary of State in either an Edwards or a Clinton 

Presidency. Then in 2012, he will have been ready to be President and all of us, 

including Edwards and CLinton will make sure he is President. Don't go saying 

that I think Barack needs more experience. NO THAT IS NOT what I'm saying 

and frankly I think Barack has enough experience to be President somewhere. 

Just not America. Barack will only be an effective President of America in a 

more benign atmosphere. Not Now. We got a lotta work to do in America to right 

the sails after my friend W leaves office. Barack is not suitable for those 

challenges. One reason is he does have some conflicts of interest that will 

malign his foreign policy. Two is he lives in fantasy land about bringing 

independents and republicans to join democrats and move the country forward. Just 

ask yourself, if independents, republicans, and democrats were to join 

together, would his administration be needed to do anything??? That is the far side 

of this fairy tale that our other friend Bill Clinton talks about. In my 

eyes, Duval Patrick, Governor of Massachusetts will have gotten my vote were he 

to run for President at any time. I know he supports Barack. He has a 

different reason for doing that. Bailo, I don't want to go on and on for God knows I 

want Barack to get as many black votes as he could, but you guys castigating 

the Clintons and every body else for your support of Barack is detrimental to 

Barack himself. Don't get carried away by Ginny. You don't know Ginny's 

politique. Even she doesn't know her own politique quite well. No comment on 

Maria Del Sol. She will deal with her own unique deamons. And tell joe to friggin 

settle down. Anytime he opens his big mouth, you think the skies are falling 

and life's over. I don't know about you Bailo, but I intend to live for 

another year. I must say though that I agree with him this time about giving 

idiots a pass. He's just too nervous for my sanity. He's the fear-monger Barack 

keeps talking about. And of course my other friend John McCain. I didn't even 

know that McCain cannot raise his two hands past his head. I always thought he 

was clowning around when he spread his arms wide as he raised them. Men. I 

kinda like his fight though, just like I love the fight in John Edwards.



Ok I gotta go now. My contractor knocks at the door. Masoud. MQJDT Darbo. AL 

Khairawan. 



Haruna Darbo wrote:

I just saw a picture of Halifa without his Afro hair-do!!! Men is he 

beautiful. I don't know why in the world he would hide all this beauty under 

a wooly 

Afro. Men. New Gambians!!! Check it our at _www.senegambianews.com_ 

(http://www.senegambianews.com) 



Suntou, did you ever see Halifa without his Afro and don't you think he's 

more handsomer without it?



Haruna.











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