Mr Jobe

It would be dishonest for me to make any allegations
against you without substantiating it. I am quite
occupied with other issues so a  proper reply will
come sooner than later.

However,Mr Jobe did I not ask you to verify your facts
on Almamy Touray's entry into parliamentary politics.
There you neither responded to counter my facts nor
did you acknowledge that your facts about Almamy
Touray were untrue.

Mr Jobe If you have replied to me on this topic as you
have stated, then on the grounds of  fair play and
honesty, I will unsubscribe myself from the "L" for
failing to uphold these principles.

Awaiting your reply.

Have a wonderful day

Sanusi

--- Kebba Jobe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Sanusi,
you are dead wrong when you say that "I am
> particularly concerned
> about your comments on Kebba Jobe. I personally
> think that Mr Jobe is using
> this forum with contempt, coming here saying all
> nice
> things about APRC, but when asked simple questions
> he resorts to his
> deception tactics. If you remember this man tried to
> express his sadness
> over the brutal murder of Lt Barrow and
> others-November 11. Within 2 days
> this man tried to change his sense of grief by
> claiming why Ebou Colly
> should wait until 6 years before spilling the beans
> on the November 11
> incident".
>
> You can go through the archives if you wish, but you
> will not find in any of
> my posts, where I say I support any of the
> attrocities being highlighted on
> this forum. Not once! Even though I am on record as
> saying that despite
> these attrocities I still support this regime, not
> once did I say I condone
> them. Call it what you want but that is the truth. I
> am also on record here
> as saying that my support of this regime is not
> because of enducement, fear
> or ignorance. My decision, like those of many, is an
> informed one.
>
> When I said that the UDP loss of the their Kiang
> East bye elections  cannot
> be attributed to Vote-buying, I was lambasted from
> all sides. However the
> fact is there for all to see. I conclusively proved
> this when I showed that
> for the UDP to have retained their Kiang East seat
> by JUST 1 VOTE, VOTER
> TURN-OUT HAD TO BE MORE THAN 93%. Who, on this forum
> can deny that fact?
> Can't you see that if the UDP needs a voter turn-out
> of more than 93 % to
> retain their existing seats come the next elections,
> then they may as well
> disband and call it quits.
>
> Again when I said that the UDP does not seem to have
> any clear agenda or
> strategy to govern this country, every one denied
> it. Have you followed the
> recent exchanges between professed dieheart
> supporters of the opposition who
> are expressing their lack of understanding of what
> the opposition strategy
> is? 6 months to elections and you guys are now
> admitting that you don't what
> you are doing.
>
> As far as I am concerned, the main UDP party is just
> a party of angry
> aggitators with nothing to offer us. There is more
> to governance than human
> rights and if the UDP thinks, for one moment, that
> the human rights issue of
> this government alone will win them votes, then they
> are in for a big shock.
> If you, the socalled sophisticated, well informed
> dieheart supporters of the
> opposition are so confused and disgruntled to the
> extend that some of you
> are demanding to know what the funds you are raising
> will be used for, how
> about the ordinary people living here?
>
> This government has said that it is here to develop
> the country after
> decates of neglect and people are seeing it do just
> that. Would they risk
> voting for a party that is just grumbling just about
> anything without ever
> indicating what it will do for the country when
> elected? If this government
> can earn the respect of the international community
> to the extend that they
> are pumping their had earned money in this country,
> one wonders why Jawara,
> the champion of human and people's rights could not.
> The fact is there is
> more to our expectations than human rights. if you
> expect a hungry man to
> vote for a party whose only promise is to respect
> human rights whilst saying
> nothing about feeding you then you have a serious
> problem.
>
> Finally if you think that I have conveniently dodged
> your questions please
> ask them again. I am sure you can imagine what it is
> like, trying to read
> every thing posted and defending all that you care
> about for. It is not easy
> I tell you.
>
> Have a good day and bye 4Now, KB Jobe.
>
> >
> >----Original Message Follows----
> >From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing
> list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Gambian Opposition, Elections and
> Related Issues
> >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:54:57 +0100
> >
> >Yus
> >
> >Welcome back!
> >
> >You have raised some very interesting points which
> no
> >one should ignore.
> >
> >I am particularly concerned about your comments on
> >Kebba Jobe. I personally think that Mr Jobe is
> using
> >this forum with contempt, coming here saying all
> nice
> >things about APRC, but when asked simple questions
> he
> >resorts to his deception tactics. If you remember
> this
> >man tried to express his sadness over the brutal
> >murder of Lt Barrow and others-November 11. Within
> 2
> >days this man tried to change his sense of grief by
> >claiming why Ebou Colly should wait until 6 years
> >before spilling the beans on the November 11
> >incident.Can we trust or tolerate this man ? I
> leave
> >you that question to answer.
> >
> >In addition, we have asked several questions
> >pertaining to APRC's record but here he dodges the
> >answers. Can we therefore consider him(jobe)as a
> >genuine debater. Take for instance his assessment
> on
> >Governance under APRC, here again Jobe gives less
> >analytic version of events. To be honest with you,
> I
> >find it insulting to all of us. This man appears to
> be
> >support of a Government that would kill or maim
> >innocent gambians. No problem with that but be
> ready
> >to acknowledge and convince us why we should
> support
> >APRC.
> >
> >Yus you wrote "The human rights situation in Gambia
> is
> >the same as in other Africa countries where
> atrocities
> >  are sanctioned daily by perfectly "legitimate"
> >regimes "
> >
> >Whilst you may be right on the issue, should we
> >continue to tolerate it. Sorry to say I cannot
> >subscribe to that analogy. Taking Gambia's size
> >together with its political struggle I remain of
> the
> >view that our current human rights situation is one
> of
> >the worst in Africa. I know people will not agree
> with
> >me on this issue but I am prepared to defend my
> >assertion on this issue. Gambia under its Second
> >Republic should have been a beacon of hope for
> human
> >rights. The Constitution which was supposed to
> protect
> >human rights is constantly abused by its
> Architects. I
> >need not elaborate you know what I am talking
> about.
> >
> >The Opposition parties in the Gambia are at present
> >going through a bad time. One day we hear that Mr X
> of
> >UDP has defected to APRC,the next day we hear that
> Mrs
> >Y an alleged coup plotter and former UDP supporter
> has
> >joined the APRC. Even civil servants who sympathise
> >with the opposition end up losing their jobs. This
> is
> >a sad situation but who do you blame? The Party for
>
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