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Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:24:59 +0000
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Elhajj, thanks for the confidence you bestowed in me.  If I have a third
party corroboration such as the Swiss Bank etc., I will name any guilty
Gambian.  I am not afraid to name anyone and I do not differentiate thieves.
  A thief, is a thief, and a thief.  I can confidently call Jammeh a thief
because he was named in the Ebou Jallow saga.  All I need from you is to
point me to evidence such as court transcripts and you will see what I can
do with it, and I do not care if my best friend is the accused.  I grew up
with Ebou Jallow's brother, Poll, but that is no reason for me to keep
quiet.  Sir, the amount of energy you put forth defending Ebou, why don't
you use the same vigor and assist me in identifying the people you have in
mind.  I also care less, what friends of thieves think of me.  It is our
duty as a Gambians to speak out on anyone that was caught stealing from our
people.  I am not forcing you to do anything.  You brought this issue up in
your defence of Ebou Jallow, therefore, it is incumbent on you to speak your
mind.  If you insist that you are afraid to call out the big thieves, then
I'll take your word for it.  So, if you are not willing to call on other
thieves that you know off, why don't you leave us with the calling and stop
delaying progress.  Elhajj, this is not the first time you jumped in defence
of Ebou Jallow.  A year or so ago (on GL/Voice Out) you came in his defense
when I took him on and I just ignored your comments.  You knew of this issue
at least a year ago, if not more.  I respect your right to stick your neck
out for your friend, but you also cannot muzzle me on the process.  Please
check with your friend, Ebou, he has all the court transcripts.  Elhajj,
always count on me to call it like it is.  Let me know your thoughts.

Chi Jaama

Joe Sambou



>From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:57:07 +0100
>
>Moses,
>If I am the only Gambian in this forum who know our thieves, then let us
>all
>assume that Ebou and the present regime are the only thieves. You people
>want me
>to answer a question that I will NEVER answer. Don`t you know that people
>don`t
>name or point fingers on our big thieves in the Gambia. Where are you in
>this
>world?
>If you name or point a finger on our big thieves,  his / her praise singers
>will
>labell you a jealous or a grudge person. Those people are untouchable! All
>those
>thieves ever convicted are small thieves who took the hundreds or the
>thousands,
>but the ones who took the millions are the blessed thieves, and they are
>still
>going about with their businesses. By the way, are you not a brother to
>Paul
>Sarr, who playing together with Joe in Young Africans football team ? I
>know you
>are not among Remi and Manuell`s brothers at Leman St. So if you are Paul`s
>brother, you also know the thieves better than me. Maybe Joe can help you
>name
>the thieves.
>
>Elhajj.
>
>Moses Sarr skrev:
>
> > Elhajj,
> >
> > For God sake, name those people and then see what the reactions are
>going to
> > be in Gambia-L. Just give the names of the thieves you are talking
> > about....oh my God.
> >
> > Mose
> >
> > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
> > >Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 19:14:08 +0100
> > >
> > >Dave,
> > >You are right! It is the duty of every Gambian to attack our thieves.
>But
> > >be rest assured, that there
> > >are people who has stolen more than Ebou Jallow, and they are among the
> > >worst crooks on this planet.
> > >
> > >Elhajj
> > >
> > >You really got me! I have just eaten my couscous taking some pause to
>make
> > >my
> > >" Tarawih  prayer "
> > >
> > >Dave Manneh skrev:
> > >
> > > > Elhaji Fye,
> > > >         I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a
>thief
> > >". In my opinion,
> > > > all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken
>more
> > >than what
> > > > Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to
>see
> > >them
> > > > attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being
> > >attacked. I made
> > > > it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his
> > >action,  but i
> > > > cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations.
>What
> > >about the
> > > > others ?
> > > >         If you know who those folks are, what is stopping you from
> > >naming and shaming them.
> > > > It is equally your duty to the Gambian people to name those  "bigger
> > >thieves" surely.
> > > > There is no bigger thief than Ebou, the guy is a creep, and he knows
>it
> > >too.
> > > > I told him two yrs ago that anytime he comes here with his shit,
>there
> > >will be
> > > > people who will be more than willing to shove it where it comes
>from,
> > >which is his poo hole.
> > > >
> > > > Let Ebou give us a freaking break, oK??
> > > > Enjoy your Iftar, if you haven't already eaten
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> > > > Elhajj Mustapha Fye
> > > > Sent: 24 November 2001 09:03
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: Former AFPRC Strongman Apologises to President Jammeh
> > > >
> > > > Jabou,
> > > > I fully agree with all what you said. " A thief is just a thief ".
>In my
> > >opinion,
> > > > all thieves should be treated the same way. Some people has taken
>more
> > >than what
> > > > Ebou has taken, and we want to put a blind eye on them. I want to
>see
> > >them
> > > > attacked in any Gambian gathering, just as Ebou Jallow is being
> > >attacked. I made
> > > > it clear that Ebou owe us explainations, and i am not defending his
> > >action,  but i
> > > > cannot digest that he is the only thief who owe us explainations.
>What
> > >about the
> > > > others ?
> > > > Jabou, you know that Ebou did not give me a penny on this amount. I
> > >repeatedly
> > > > said that i sympathize with Ebou, because of the antagonisms he
>faces
> > >within the
> > > > Gambian community.  But let people understand that, one can only
> > >sympathize with a
> > > > friend / relative / whatever / when they face difficulties, but you
> > >cannot change
> > > > the process of the truth. The truth will always be the truth!  I
>hope my
> > >fellow
> > > > G-Lers  will understand my positon not to misjudge me. Frankly, I
>did
> > >not regret
> > > > joining the L, because i met with old friends, met with new friends
>and
> > >usually
> > > > get a lot of fun here. So, I highly appreciate this gathering, and
>also
> > >respect
> > > > their views on our debates. It is not always that we will see eye to
>eye
> > >on
> > > > issues, but it does make us to be enemies. Let us just disagree with
> > >respect, not
> > > > to creat enemity between us.
> > > >
> > > > Happy Ramadan
> > > > Elhajj.
> > > >
> > > > Jabou Joh skrev:
> > > >
> > > > > Elhadj,
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope you are being sarcastic, because whether it was taken as
>Ebou
> > >did or
> > > > > taken in secret as other did, it all amounts to the same thing,
>and as
> > >far as
> > > > > I am concerned, they are all thieves, whether they took it during
>the
> > >Jawara
> > > > > Era or now in various forms. A thief is a thief, and no amount of
> > >smoothing
> > > > > over can ever change that. If one takes what does not belong to
>them,
> > >and
> > > > > worse still, if what they took was entrusted to them on behalf of
>the
> > >people,
> > > > >  or by the people it puts them into a category that no decent
>person
> > >wants to
> > > > > belong to.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, mentioning the thievery practiced by our government officials
> > >past and
> > > > > present very much belongs on Gambia-L, and why?
> > > > > Because this is a gathering of Gambians, and if such talk does not
> > >belong
> > > > > here, then where in heaven's name does it belong then, in the
>closet?
> > >We have
> > > > > done too much of that, always trying to hush hush the misdeeds of
> > >those who
> > > > > should exercise the highest moral character because they are the
> > >guardians of
> > > > > what little assets we have,
> > > > > and all that this does is to send the message that one can do
>anything
> > >and
> > > > > get away with it. No more. If they do it, we will talk about it
>loud
> > >and
> > > > > clear for the whole World to hear.No hard feelings Elhadj, and i
>am
> > >sure you
> > > > > will agree with me because i do believe you are a man of ethics,
>and
> > >truth
> > > > > can never be the equivalent of falsehood as the holy Qur'an tells
>us.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sister Jabou Joh
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 11/24/01 6:11:53 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jabou,
> > > > > > I am sorry to say, that the truth you have mentioned in your
>mail,
> > >should
> > > > > > not be
> > > > > > mentioned on the Gambia-L. Ebou Jallow is the ONLY THIEF who has
> > >ever
> > > > > > stolen the
> > > > > > coffers of our country. All the rest who took our coffers in the
> > >past 37
> > > > > > years
> > > > > > has borrowed what they took. We hope the so called truthful
>G-Lers
> > >will ask
> > > > > > them,
> > > > > > when they will pay back our money? Some are running their
> > >progressive
> > > > > > businesses,
> > > > > > and others are sitting in their Mansions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Elhajj
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jabou Joh skrev:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > In a message dated 11/23/2001 7:57:24 PM Central Standard
>Time,
> > > > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Samba and co,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I mean it when I said Ebou is Man. To apologise after all he
> > >siad and
> > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > against Jammeh and this Government, it is unbelievable. I
>could
> > >not
> > > > > > beleive
> > > > > > > > my eyes when I saw the original letter. At first I thought
>it
> > >was fake.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ebou Jallow has done so much damage to President Jammeh and
>this
> > > > > > Government
> > > > > > > > and I do not think he will be forgivened.I think this is all
>a
> > >CIA
> > > > > > plot. I
> > > > > > > > have know Ebou Jallow we had a good relation and we still
>do,
> > >but I just
> > > > > > > > hope he is not stupid enough to step his foot in this
>country.
> > >He will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > tried and jailed. Even if President Jammeh forgives him,
>others
> > >would
> > > > > > not.
> > > > > > > > He has done wrong to others too, not only President Jammeh.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He is a man. He knows what people would say about him and he
> > >still came
> > > > > > out
> > > > > > > > in public apologising. I think Ebou is being paid and
> > >manipulated by the
> > > > > > > > CIA. I might be wrong but this is my feeling. I do not see
> > >anything that
> > > > > > > > would save Ebou Jallow from being punished for what he did
>if he
> > >comes
> > > > > > > > back.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > PEACE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tombong
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But Tombong,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > With all due respect, Ebou Jallow has not done anything that
> > >Jammeh and co
> > > > > > > have not done, and on a much larger scale infact. Seems to me
>that
> > >he is
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > the only one who needs to be tried and jailed, so this is a
>case
> > >of " the
> > > > > > pot
> > > > > > > calling the kettel black". It is a strange thing when
>criminals
> > >try to
> > > > > > point
> > > > > > > fingers at each other.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jabou Joh
> > > > > > >
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